DNP (Dinitrophenol) On the Long Run

[Daan]

Good evening everyone,

A little while ago I got interested in DNP, or dinitrophenol. DNP helps you to cut fat at an high level because your metabolic rates increase significantly (for everyone that doesn't know, a full explanation on how it works can be found here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,4-Dinitrophenol ).

I am planning of having my first DNP cycle in about a month or two. I would like to know a little more about this substance from people who have taking this for a decent time. The other posts on this forum are very outdated (last post years ago) and the people who posted there haven't been active for quite some time. Therefore I have the following questions to experienced DNP users:

- What are the effects if you'd take DNP for a longer period of time, did you notice anything?
- Would it be possible to use DNP in a 'permanent' way (at low dosages of course)?
- Did you feel like a specific part of your body lost more fat than others (e.g. your belly)?
- Is it in theory possible to go like 1-2% fat on DNP? (This would not be my goal though, just curious)

Thanks for answering my questions!

Good night.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/dnp-neuropathy.134310652/

Wow, thanks.. I think @loveyourbody also experienced something like this..

 

[Rick Kane]

6 weeks at 500mgs. Omg I can't believe something went wrong..

 

[Rick Kane]

Clen has also been banned in many countries, but tons of people in our community use it, and no one gets bashed for asking about that.

In 2003 my coworker collapsed at work. He was the biggest Clen apologist and claimed that it was safe and that he was a great example of a responsible user. He almost died and is lucky to be alive. Now he can't even take OTC fat burners/energy caps.
The guy didn't use a lot of AAS since he was a fitness model and stayed at single digits bf year round while on low dose test. MFer had sick genetics.

 

[ironwill1951]

i will not respond to you because you seem to know more than the WKM that have been here for years , not listening to their responses shows your immature and irresponsible , good luck you will need it with your attitude...

Thanks for responding,

However, I do not need people telling me if I should or shouldn't use this. All I'm interested in is information on how to use this properly. I am going to use it any how, so don't waste your time on writing these responses. And yes, it is me in that photo, a little over a year ago though. I have since then finished my first cycle and the results are stunning. All I need now is to get rid of the fat.



Same counts for you.

Have a nice day both of you.

 

[Daan]

i will not respond to you because you seem to know more than the WKM that have been here for years , not listening to their responses shows your immature and irresponsible , good luck you will need it with your attitude...

Jesus. I know what the risks of taking DNP are, I have read tons of information about this stuff but started this thread to see what people themselves experience whilst being on DNP. That doesn't mean I want them to constantly try to get it out of my head.

If you'd ask me what vodka goes with best I won't be saying that you shouldn't take alcohol because people have died of it. Instead, I'd say red bull makes a delicious combination.

 

[Docd187123]

Jesus. I know what the risks of taking DNP are, I have read tons of information about this stuff but started this thread to see what people themselves experience whilst being on DNP. That doesn't mean I want them to constantly try to get it out of my head.

If you'd ask me what vodka goes with best I won't be saying that you shouldn't take alcohol because people have died of it. Instead, I'd say red bull makes a delicious combination.

I'm personally more a fan of pineapple juice but to each their own

 

[Oregongearhead]

Jesus. I know what the risks of taking DNP are, I have read tons of information about this stuff but started this thread to see what people themselves experience whilst being on DNP. That doesn't mean I want them to constantly try to get it out of my head.

If you'd ask me what vodka goes with best I won't be saying that you shouldn't take alcohol because people have died of it. Instead, I'd say red bull makes a delicious combination.

The reason your getting these responses is simple : your just a kid asking how much of a dangerous substance is safe ; and we are saying no amount is safe , abort mission .

So is that your warface in your avatar junior ?? Come on show us your WARFACE !! Rrraahhh !!!

 

[loveyourbody]

Wow, thanks.. I think @loveyourbody also experienced something like this..

Yes I did and may I say it is one of the worst kind of pain you will ever feel. I wish I could put it in word how horrible the pain is. When this happened to me I think I did a 2 week cycle the pain lasted about a week after I went to the hospital. My fingers and toes felt like I put gas on the caught them on fire and watched them burn from the inside out. It hurt so bad I would wake up in the middle of the night with pain so intense it would make a tear or two go down my face. Bashing my head against the wall help with the pain. I would use a whole bottle of bengay on my fingers and toes so I could get an hour of no pain. It got to the point that if when I went to the doctors they told me it was permanent I would tell them to cut them off. I'm not trying to make this seem more than it is because this was just one of all the horrible side effects. I got every single one you could think off.

-hot
-internal bleeding
-blood in my stools
-dizziness
-extra exhaustion
-nerve pain
-rash all over body


DNP should be left to pro body builders other than that just a good diet and work out routine should help.

 

[noah_k]

Yes I did and may I say it is one of the worst kind of pain you will ever feel.

Really sorry to hear that brother. Is it completely gone now or reduced to a light or numb sensation? Another user on another forum dug up quite a bit of research on PN (on the link I posted on the page before), but there's also a thread where he detailed how he himself started developing early onset PN symptoms and did some protocols which helped. Maybe worth a look? or worth dropping him a PM if anything persisted, he's a smart one (that does impulsive things like the rest of us )...


User is "niloluiz"

http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=20556&page=64

 

[Daan]

Yes I did and may I say it is one of the worst kind of pain you will ever feel. I wish I could put it in word how horrible the pain is. When this happened to me I think I did a 2 week cycle the pain lasted about a week after I went to the hospital. My fingers and toes felt like I put gas on the caught them on fire and watched them burn from the inside out. It hurt so bad I would wake up in the middle of the night with pain so intense it would make a tear or two go down my face. Bashing my head against the wall help with the pain. I would use a whole bottle of bengay on my fingers and toes so I could get an hour of no pain. It got to the point that if when I went to the doctors they told me it was permanent I would tell them to cut them off. I'm not trying to make this seem more than it is because this was just one of all the horrible side effects. I got every single one you could think off.

-hot
-internal bleeding
-blood in my stools
-dizziness
-extra exhaustion
-nerve pain
-rash all over body


DNP should be left to pro body builders other than that just a good diet and work out routine should help.

That sounds pretty severe..

When did you start getting pain? And did the pain have to 'develop' or was it straight out horrible?

 

[noah_k]

@Daan from the previous page, clinical trials that showed PN: "doses ranged from 1.86 to 3.53 mg/kg/day, and durations ranged from 10 days to several months."

In other words it's incredibly variable. 10 days, months, low dose, high dose. That's a huge difference in dose and time. Just know that the longer you take it the higher the risk of developing PN. If you use, keep an eye out for any and all symptoms.

 

[Rick Kane]

Man that PN sounds awful. Has anybody every reported having something like that happen at 250 for 7 days?

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

There is no way to safely take it. If it were safe, it would be available by prescription.

Trenbolone? equipoise?

I haven't heard of anybody dying from trenbolone and boldenone. Not so with dnp. The comparison is ridiculous.

 

[loveyourbody]

The pain was right after I stopped the next night and it was straight up horrible.

 

[Docd187123]

I haven't heard of anybody dying from trenbolone and boldenone. Not so with dnp. The comparison is ridiculous.

The assumption is that if it's not available by prescription it must be dangerous. You just proved my point thank you.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

https://thinksteroids.com/forum/attachments/steroid-forum/11155d1371757961-dnp-honest-review-dnp.pdf (thinksteroids.com/forum/attachments/steroid-forum/11155d1371757961-dnp-honest-review-dnp.pdf)

Abstract

In the early 1930s, the industrial chemical dinitrophenol found widespread favor as a weight-loss drug, due principally to the work of Maurice Tainter, a clinical pharmacologist from Stanford University. Unfortunately the compound’s therapeutic index was razor thin and it was not until thousands of people suffered irreversible harm that mainstream physicians realized that dinitrophenol’s risks outweighed its benefits and abandoned its use. Yet, it took passage of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act in 1938 before federal regulators had the ability to stop patent medicine men from selling dinitrophenol to Americans lured by the promise of a drug that would safely melt one’s fat away.

Cyril MacBryde, a physiologist from Washington University School of Medicine, reported ‘‘alarming functional changes’’ indicative of liver, heart, and muscle toxicity in his obese patients treated with small doses of dinitrophenol (MacBryde and Taussig, 1935).

But some physicians continued to believe that the drug was a reasonable therapeutic option for obese patients recalcitrant to dietary intervention when used in the properdose and under the care of a knowledgeable physician. Even this position, however, became untenable when young women taking therapeutic doses of dinitrophenol under the supervision of physicians started going blind (Horner et al., 1935). If the estimate of one San Francisco ophthalmologist is accurate, during a two and a half year span, as many as 2500 Americans may have lost their sight due to what became known as ‘‘dinitrophenol cataracts’’ (Horner, 1936).​

Vet Hum Toxicol. 2004 Oct;46(5):251-4.
Dying to be thin: a dinitrophenol related fatality. Dying to be thin: a dinitrophenol related fa... [Vet Hum Toxicol. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI
McFee RB, Caraccio TR, McGuigan MA, Reynolds SA, Bellanger P.

Abstract

2, 4-dinitrophenol (DNP) was originally used as an explosive and later introduced in the 1930's to stimulate metabolism and promote weight loss. It's also a component of pesticides still available globally. Concerns about hyperpyrexia lead to DNP being banned as a dietary aid in 1938. A 22-y-old male presented to the Emergency Department (ED) with a change in mental status 16 h after his last dose of DNP. On admission he was diaphoretic and febrile with an oral temperature of 102 F, but lucid and cooperative. He became agitated and delirious. Intravenous midazolam was initiated with mechanical cooling. Pancuronium was administered later and the patient was intubated. Over the next hour the patient became bradycardic, then asystolic, and despite resuscitative efforts, died. Advertisements claim DNP safe at the dose our patient ingested. It is widely available and with the potential to cause severe toxicity is an understudied public health concern.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

The assumption is that if it's not available by prescription it must be dangerous. You just proved my point thank you.

The proper assumption is that if it isn't approved for human use, it shouldn't be considered safe.

Comparing DNP, a compound responsible for many deaths, with two unapproved AAS that haven't killed anyone, minimizes the very serious risks inherent with DNP use. They do NOT share similar safety profiles.

 

[Docd187123]

The proper assumption is that if it isn't approved for human use, it shouldn't be considered safe.

Comparing DNP, a compound responsible for many deaths, with two unapproved AAS that haven't killed anyone, minimizes the very serious risks inherent with DNP use. They do NOT share similar safety profiles.

I'm not saying they share similar safety profiles. I've said many times it's probably the most dangerous compound for most AAS users besides maybe insulin in previous posts. Having said that I still plan on running it after this coming weekend and I've come to that decision after weighing the pros and cons for myself.

 

[dredd09]

There have been published reports of death as low as 4.3 mg /kg..it stains your insides yellow permanently, as evidenced in autopsies. Reports of permanent deafness after one use. Tubular necrosis in the kidneys. Almost no treatment at the hospital other then treating tree symptoms. Sounds like poison .

 

[Wings_of_pain]

Ok so I'm going to go against the grain and try to be nice since im medicated. Now, a few months back I did a few runs of DNP and these were my experiences. First, you are going to be hot no matter what. You are also going to smell like shit and your sweat and shit/excretions are going to smell because that is the body trying to remove said poison. Is it as dangerous as people say? Yes and no. Here's why.

If you are either A) a dumbfuck or B) are inexperienced in knowing your body I can guarantee you're gonna have a bad time. However, if you are smart and don't push it you might be able to use it, though to be frank, the carb cravings that come post run, along with T3 levels coming back online end up fucking up what little you did anyway.

Furthermore, although I don't care either which way, I will say that you will find out quickly that DNP isn't all it's cracked up to be and you likely will get a host of side effects that will make life generally miserable.

P.S almost died after building to 750MG. 0/10 would not try again.