Do you plan to blast in old age (40+)?

[Primoisthebest]

With insulin the risk is in the dose. 5-10 iu of long acting and or short acting insulin 1x per day is a low risk activity. No one is dying or contributing to ill health with that. You’re not going to get diabetes, gh gut or anything remotely similar. The worst is getting a bit hypoglycemic from under eating carbs with short acting. Your body will tell you in clear terms if you need carbs, so take heed and eat/drink carbs.

If you haven’t had short acting insulin with carbs before and during workout, don’t underestimate how strong the effect is on performance, pump and I would say by extrapolation muscle growth. I never tried before myself until this past week. I ate low carb for 3 days. Bought some NovolinR at Walmart and did 10iu im with a high carb pre w/o meal. Drank 50g carbs in my w/o and had protein/rice meal after. Pretty intense, way beyond without insulin. So full it took 2 days of low carbs to flatten.

I like to eat low carb and have load days. So 5 days low, 2 high each week (not consecutive).I find it’s effortless to stay lean like this. Using insulin on the high carb days would be rocket fuel on this based on my experiment.

Insulin, like all ped’s is a slippery slope with dosage, as more drug almost always equals more effects. Approached with common sense and discipline I see no reason this can’t be used with little risk.

 

[Thegodofwar]

I'm not claiming it's healthy or smart.

I just turned 40 and being on gear simply makes me feel great and adds too much to my life. I've come to the conclusion that'll run between TRT and 1g of gear as long as I can.

> "Bro, you're just a drug addict."
Probably! Honestly I don't care. Honestly I'm proud of it at this age.

>"What about your health?"
My health markers are great. Not claiming that will last forever. Things might go to shit in a few years.

> Healthy gear choices
For me just test/primo/mast/gh. But I guess the dose makes the poison.

Anyone else feel the same?

Honestly brother whatever makes you feel good.
You do you and if it makes you happy then smash it
Don’t let anyone tell you to change what you are doing just because you have aged a little bit, who cares be happy enjoy!!!

 

[malfeasance]

Look fantastic! What changed in a few years?

Well, I am no longer a competing bodybuilder, so I am not "pushing" the envelope on anything.

I have intentionally lost quite a bit of weight. Ironically, I thought it would just melt off as I reduced my hormones down to just TRT level injections. The body likes to stay where it is, though, especially after four decades aimed at increasing body weight, and the weight stayed on. I actually left the gym for 9 months because every time I lifted after a shorter break the weight would just reappear (water and glycogen refilling the muscle).

I still work out now, but with nowhere near the crazy intensity that I did three years ago. I lift. I do cardio. Most importantly, I try most days to keep my diet in check. The dumb bells and barbells and plates on machines are not quite as heavy now.

I inject 75 mg a week of testosterone.

I got my weight down from 251 to 215 or so, and that took all of three years. I probably need to reduce it further, but it is tough to be too dedicated on the diet with no competition in 12 weeks (those of you who have competed will know how motivating a competition date is).

The temptation is always there to ramp up some test and deca and growth hormone and intensity in the gym . . . . lol, and maybe I will do some small cycles, but at my age I know it is not wise, and I wonder how much arteriosclerosis the steroids caused over the years, irreversible.


The normies, though, all still think I look "huge". LOL.

My wife told me, after I was talking to her about some folks' reaction and things they were saying, to realize I am still a really big guy, and that I do not look like other people, and that my perception was skewed from all of those years bodybuilding.

 

[Theworm]

Well, I am no longer a competing bodybuilder, so I am not "pushing" the envelope on anything.

I have intentionally lost quite a bit of weight. Ironically, I thought it would just melt off as I reduced my hormones down to just TRT level injections. The body likes to stay where it is, though, especially after four decades aimed at increasing body weight, and the weight stayed on. I actually left the gym for 9 months because every time I lifted after a shorter break the weight would just reappear (water and glycogen refilling the muscle).

I still work out now, but with nowhere near the crazy intensity that I did three years ago. I lift. I do cardio. Most importantly, I try most days to keep my diet in check. The dumb bells and barbells and plates on machines are not quite as heavy now.

I inject 75 mg a week of testosterone.

I got my weight down from 251 to 215 or so, and that took all of three years. I probably need to reduce it further, but it is tough to be too dedicated on the diet with no competition in 12 weeks (those of you who have competed will know how motivating a competition date is).

The temptation is always there to ramp up some test and deca and growth hormone and intensity in the gym . . . . lol, and maybe I will do some small cycles, but at my age I know it is not wise, and I wonder how much arteriosclerosis the steroids caused over the years, irreversible.


The normies, though, all still think I look "huge". LOL.

My wife told me, after I was talking to her about some folks' reaction and things they were saying, to realize I am still a really big guy, and that I do not look like other people, and that my perception was skewed from all of those years bodybuilding.

Why not just check a calcium score?

Seems like you want healthy, but also seems to me you want to be smaller even though you can be probably much leaner and bigger on 120mg test and not risk much health issues, etc. what does 75mg test put you in terms of TT and free T?

 

[malfeasance]

Why not just check a calcium score?

May do that - don't know much about it or what can be done about it if it is bad.

I don't think you can get rid of the calcium.

I am also not so sure about the calcium score and actual risk, as opposed to more recent soft plaques that rupture and cause a heart attack. The high calcium score is correlated with the coronary risk because it indicates a bad lifestyle with new plaque forming, not yet calcified, that presents the actual risk. Calcifications do not break free, block arteries to your heart, and cause a heart attack.

I hope all of that gibberish without any medical terminology makes sense. If any of you are cardiologists, feel free to laugh at me now.

 

[Theworm]

May do that - don't know much about it or what can be done about it if it is bad.

I don't think you can get rid of the calcium.

I am also not so sure about the calcium score and actual risk, as opposed to more recent soft plaques that rupture and cause a heart attack. The high calcium score is correlated with the coronary risk because it indicates a bad lifestyle with new plaque forming, not yet calcified, that presents the actual risk. Calcifications do not break free, block arteries to your heart, and cause a heart attack.

I hope all of that gibberish without any medical terminology makes sense. If any of you are cardiologists, feel free to laugh at me now.

Well at least the calcium score tells us something, luckily mine was zero. And yes something can be done about it, repatha has been shown to reverse it.
Only way to know for sure would be a cardiac cath. But calcium score is good for us older folks, it’s the younger people it’s not as good as calcium hasn’t yet formed in the plaques.