Dogs

[BBC3]

Has anyone discussed the dangers if the forms of alcohol which are not readily metabolized by the ANIMAL BODY..??!! Specifically, I am referring to ANTI-freeze, like you put in your car.. Importantly, it should be noted that these forms of alcohol come in many other products like windshield wiper fluid for example(as no freeze component for cold weather as well as a cleaning catalyst)...

And you have not truly lived until YOU see YOUR DOG come in writhing in PAIN, circling around, and crying the saddest sight - until... ... .. Until your IGNORANT COCKSUCKER of a neighbor dumps the contents if his radiator in his back yard and it runs under the fence where your dog's bionic nose detects the sweet scent and runs over to joyfully lap it up..!! (Antifreeze is sweet to the taste). Further and outside the parenthesis with intention - YOU WOULD THINK THE DUMBSHIT manufacturers of these products would have enough "social morale" by now to put a deterrent in there to make it not so tantalizing (the original formulator was an animal hater I AM CERTAIN!!!)... Really, they put a scent in natural gas so people will smell it prior to blowing their stupid asses up. Well, I can think of a few "people" that could stand a good bolt or two of a nice antifreeze after dinner sniffer..!! Lol & JK. But it drives home the point of the SORRY ASS conundrum know to the universe as "humanity"(and I left that uncapped with intent)..!

Most folks would not even be aware the specific symptoms to IDENTIFY the condition - but it can be trained in them PERHAPS...

The reason anti/freeze kills animals is the primary active ingredient is - ETHYLENE GLYCOL(form of alcohol I believe & the main active component of antifreeze). And on that note. I have read that the antidote for is actually ETHYL ALCOHOL, as it involves its self with receptors that prevent further action of the poisonous alcohol. Now don't that sick to know you could have saved your dog's life if the manufacturers would have printed this in the label somewhere, even if just a legaly safe and impotent "fun factoid"...! Of course u would still have to make the diagnosis, which is not that difficult when your dog is flailing around in agony and barfing green antifreeze and BILE..!!!!

And now reading at Wiki(just more awesome every day..!). The halting if the metabolization of the antifreeze is just the first step. Then, the poisonous elelyne glycol must be removed by further medical attention. SO DO NOT STOP SHORT OF THAT LAST SENTENCE AND THINK YOU WERE COVERED JUST FORCING A FEE JAGERMEISTERS DOWN YUR DOGS THOAT..!!!

Come to think. I wonder could I even be poisoned successfully by that manner...?? As I speculate my system is PREPARED for the odd circumstance, and at ALL TIMES... L..... O...... L.....

 

[BBC3]

And to be clear since I used two technical names.... They may both be forms of alcohol. The "ethyl alcohol" I indicated as the "CURE", or temp fix, is also know as BOOZE. A.k.a. - Jack Daniels, his friend Johnny Walker, and all their fine cousins.. Lol

 

[smiles]

Has anyone discussed the dangers if the forms of alcohol which are not readily metabolized by the ANIMAL BODY..??!! Specifically, I am referring to ANTI-freeze, like you put in your car.. Importantly, it should be noted that these forms of alcohol come in many other products like windshield wiper fluid for example(as no freeze component for cold weather as well as a cleaning catalyst)...

And you have not truly lived until YOU see YOUR DOG come in writhing in PAIN, circling around, and crying the saddest sight - until... ... .. Until your IGNORANT COCKSUCKER of a neighbor dumps the contents if his radiator in his back yard and it runs under the fence where your dog's bionic nose detects the sweet scent and runs over to joyfully lap it up..!! (Antifreeze is sweet to the taste). Further and outside the parenthesis with intention - YOU WOULD THINK THE DUMBSHIT manufacturers of these products would have enough "social morale" by now to put a deterrent in there to make it not so tantalizing (the original formulator was an animal hater I AM CERTAIN!!!)... Really, they put a scent in natural gas so people will smell it prior to blowing their stupid asses up. Well, I can think of a few "people" that could stand a good bolt or two of a nice antifreeze after dinner sniffer..!! Lol & JK. But it drives home the point of the SORRY ASS conundrum know to the universe as "humanity"(and I left that uncapped with intent)..!

Most folks would not even be aware the specific symptoms to IDENTIFY the condition - but it can be trained in them PERHAPS...

The reason anti/freeze kills animals is the primary active ingredient is - ETHYLENE GLYCOL(form of alcohol I believe & the main active component of antifreeze). And on that note. I have read that the antidote for is actually ETHYL ALCOHOL, as it involves its self with receptors that prevent further action of the poisonous alcohol. Now don't that sick to know you could have saved your dog's life if the manufacturers would have printed this in the label somewhere, even if just a legaly safe and impotent "fun factoid"...! Of course u would still have to make the diagnosis, which is not that difficult when your dog is flailing around in agony and barfing green antifreeze and BILE..!!!!

And now reading at Wiki(just more awesome every day..!). The halting if the metabolization of the antifreeze is just the first step. Then, the poisonous elelyne glycol must be removed by further medical attention. SO DO NOT STOP SHORT OF THAT LAST SENTENCE AND THINK YOU WERE COVERED JUST FORCING A FEE JAGERMEISTERS DOWN YUR DOGS THOAT..!!!

Come to think. I wonder could I even be poisoned successfully by that manner...?? As I speculate my system is PREPARED for the odd circumstance, and at ALL TIMES... L..... O...... L.....

It is fucked up that they make it sweet smelling and tasting, I think the same thing the person must of hated animals.. One of my moms ex husbands was such a little bitch, was sapposed to be a big bad marine who fought in Granada and had flash backs from it, was afraid of me and feared for his life so I had to move with my dad, witch was what I was wanting to do, than one weekend I come over to see my mom and my cat onjray to find him dead in the garage with blood out if his mouth... Now there is two things, 1: can think of one he let him drink anti-freeze... 2: he strangled him to death.. I was so pissed I wanted to beat him to death, but unfortunately I could not prove it, and if I did and did take him out there would of been now way of me getting away of it because my mom would of called the cops and testified agents me... That cat was the coolest cat ever, he had lived through a very high fever that fried his brain, the vet said he wouldn't live... Little did they know he lived a pretty long life, up until that pos did what he did, after the fever he was slow after that... He would walk into the walls, sit there and stare at the walls for hours, unless you got his attention, he was the most loving fattest cat a teenager could ever ask for... I still have his ashes to this day 15 years later...

And to be clear since I used two technical names.... They may both be forms of alcohol. The "ethyl alcohol" I indicated as the "CURE", or temp fix, is also know as BOOZE. A.k.a. - Jack Daniels, his friend Johnny Walker, and all their fine cousins.. Lol

Hahaha that's good to know the animal can get a buzz and help get better till you can get the proper treatment...

 

[smiles]

naughty doggy's lol

 

[Michael Scally MD]

New Strides in Spaying and Neutering
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/new-strides-in-spaying-and-neutering/?smid=tw-share

Then Mr. Bruce’s sister, a veterinary student, told him about Zeuterin, a drug that sterilizes male dogs without the removal of the testicles, thus preserving some testosterone production. In June, Mr. Bruce volunteered Cody for the procedure, performed by veterinarians as part of a training program at a clinic in Portland. The next day, Cody was back at work, enthusiastically rounding up livestock.

“It was quick, painless and super uninvasive,” Mr. Bruce said. “He’s mellowed out a bit, but I haven’t had the problems I had before.”

 

[smiles]

New Strides in Spaying and Neutering
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/new-strides-in-spaying-and-neutering/?smid=tw-share

Awsome thank you for sharing that my wife has been bugging the shit out if me to get hens nuts cut, but I just can't do it to him... I'm gonna show her this and tell her hahahaha you can't take his nuts now... Lol

 

[BBC3]

Yes, this is a great topic. And SIMPLY BECAUSE IT PARALLELS SOCIETIES FEAR OF ANABOLIC STEROIDS....!

While animal lovers, opposers, and activists alike ALL FAVOR Spay and neuter (for obvious reasons) - there are SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES to the health of the animal. Else, why would HUMANS be so MEDICALLY FUCKED if they lost their shizzle and WHAT would be the point of TRT and other forms of corrective hormonal medical intervention??!!? In summary, I once saw a guy have his 10 year old lab neutered at that late age and the dog declined and died in about a year flat - like it was some kind of RACE. This IS an interesting conundrum as involved with HUMAN medical science as obviously testosterone is used in MANY if not all metabolic process in our bodies, so where is the dog then getting his after he is "De-Nutted at the ripe young age of 6 months. Or does his growth and development just cease there on a dime and I just have never noted...? I wonder does that dog's body make up for the T Production by some other organ, and similar to the secondary production points in humans. But I always heard that nothing would suffice as inherent biological production point for normal T metabolism from testes in male humans.??

BACK ON TRACK....

So we have MULTIPLE POINTS OF CONCERNS with "Animal Population Control", as what it REALLY is meant to EFFECT..."

(1) Population control - removal of reproductive organs so that we don't have a bunch a sad hungry animals running the streets.

(2) Removal of the SEX HORMONES that elicit NORMAL SEXUAL RESPONSE in animals.
(a) After all, we can't have our dogs humping our guest's legs at our home hosted social gatherings now can we.. OR,
(b) We can't have our cats backing up to our guest with their tails in the air just begging for some throbbing cock (like we wish our human female counterparts would)...
(c) We most certainly would not want an animal with AGGRESSIVE TENDENCIES associated with Testosterone now would we. After all, WHO would be safe from these untrainable MONSTERS....![)]
(d) We can't have our female cats and dogs have menstrual cycles and bleeding all over the place once a month.
(e) And it sure is a mess to have to clean up JIZZ off the base boards and lower walls from that male dog who is so sexually frustrated that he is literally dripping semen out of his cock 24/7 and slinging it every where every time he decides to get up from his favorite position - RELAXING and ENJOYING LIFE..
(f) Your local vet will most certainly advocate it with consideration of all of the socio-political implications above/ BESIDES - He likes the $$...
(g) And what the fuck. Everyone else does it, so why don't we. After all, it sucks to have to THINK. And much worse to actually have to take ACCOUNTABILITY and RESPONSIBILITY of the process of logical thought, reason, and make a DECISION OURSELVES...

So without reading the article even, it sounds to me like some vet somewhere has actually publicly acknowledged that VASECTOMIES CAN BE Performed on animals and just the same as humans.. Hmmm. I wonder how long they have known this?! I wonder who they first EXPERIMENTED the Procedure on....!!! So I wonder does he discuss the facet of TUBAL LIGATION in Female Animals. You know, the one the really good 35 year old cock craving women have done where they show you the small incision scar somewhere under their naval to prove or convince you they cant get knocked up. Oh yea, that don't prevent the monthly blood mess.. Fuckholes...!

I can tell you that while I watched my friend's dog die a cruel weak as death once his balls were removed... My lab is 11 and healthy as a 5 year old lab. He's got 5 years in him for sure and thats a long time by lab standards. OR the standards WE IMPOSE on them that is. OUR "BEST FRIENDS" that is. And truly the male dogs being the FIRST one that would throw himself in the firing line to protect YOU. Far before you wife. And far before your male friends that have their own families to think about. There is nothing that makes me sicker than a man who would abuse an animal. I wish they could all be lined up, neutered publicly, and laughed at. Then they could set there cowering like the animals who have be de-nutted do while they get kicked in the teeth by these sorry fucks..

New Strides in Spaying and Neutering
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/02/new-strides-in-spaying-and-neutering/?smid=tw-share

 

[BBC3]

For those with dogs with heartworms. There is a new treatment out there which is far less dangerous, invasive, and time consuming. It was developed (supposedly) by a vet at the University of Auburn in Alabama (a very strong vet school), or at least the guy is report to have trained there. I am not sure the details about the origins, but vets in AL will boast this and claim as a "State and School Pride"..

The conventional method of treating heartworms is pretty much to poison the shit out of your dog to kill the heartworms and hope the dog don't die too; and either from complications from the nature of the chemicals used, or the heartworms breaking up in blood circulation. Its expensive because it requires days of monitoring at the vets office (like they have vitals monitors on them and an RN on premise at night when everyone is at home - LOL). But its dangerous because of the nasty drugs and the fast degree to which the worms are killed and thus become a risk in the circulatory system.

The method I am referring to is a heartworm treatment via concomitant use of a standard monthly heartworm preventative, and in conjunction with a common antibiotic called doxycycline. The heartworm preventative we use is revolution (which I think is a different active ingredient from the Immiticide Which many of the articles make mention of for this new treatment... So I don't know if this local vet was running his own experiment, or that the key heartworm killer is just the doxy, and maybe he said "close enough" as to the one we use normally. I dont recall. I DO recall that the Doxy dose was high as shit for a 60 lb dog. as I THINK it was 100mgs doxy 3x's day, and at the same time with the normal preventative, and he tossed in some prednisone which he left me feeling as helpful by somewhat optional.

*** IT SHOULD be noted that NOT ALL HEARTWORM PREVENTATIVES CAN BE USED ONCE YOUR DOG ALREADY HAS THEM AND WILL KILL THE DOG IF USED UNLESS THEY ARE TREATED FIRST. I do know that the heartworm preventative that we use is one that wont hurt the dog if it already has worms, but it wont kill the worms once they are there. I DO think it is the Revolution Product Brand Name..:

Revolution (Pfizer Animal Health)
Generic Name
Selamectin (see-la-mek’-tin)

So - IF I am correct, this is the one we use and continued to use as the heartworm treatment with doxycycline as adjunct at high dose.

The protocol was continuous heartworm preventative(Again, Revolution I THINK). Then 30 days on Doxy and then off doxy for a couple months. The prednisone small daily dose.

RESULTS: I discontinued the prednisone after the first dose. It was clear the dog was bloating, panting, and not happy with it. Shes had it in ten day runs before for skin allergies and its never agreed perfectly. Its a cruel corticosteroid to say the least, at least as I have always observed in animal use. I have never had the occasion myself. So, I ran the Doxy at protocol for about 20 days I think and couldn't take it anymore. Clearly, the high dosage was straining the animal as well, OR perhaps it was the heartworms dying. I dont know. I do know that I took doxy for a month once at 200mgs day for a reproductive therapy and never really noted any physical distress. So perhaps it was the heartworms dying that was causing the distress..?!? So anyways, I gave it up and just said fuk-it, well try again in 60 days or whatever and keep on at it to see eventual results.. Of course we continued the revolution, which I never should have dropped for that two months that one summer that allowed the infection in the first place. SURPRISINGLY, we went back to the vet two months later to discuss the second round of treatment and the dog tested NEGATIVE for heartworms at that time. I dont think my wife even confessed to him that we only ran the Doxy for 20 days max.. It should finally be noted that the initial diagnosing blood test detecting the heartworms was stated as "massive infestation". I will now take the opportunity to point out that SERUM COUNTS MEAN SQUAT in MANY CONTEXTS.. As I am certain this vet though we just let our dogs go untreated all the time and that she had them for years. The truth was she missed only two months tops one summer, and the stuff maintains effective control for at least 30 days post discontinuation. THE HIGH heartworm LARVAE Population as seen in SERUM COUNT/Examination would be just the proof that just because the blood is lit up with something, does not mean SHIT about the PRINCIPLE FACTOR causing the count. As there is NO WAY this dog had a bunch of mature heartworms infesting her heart. But this would probably be also the reason for the success in the one time 20 day application...

And how the Immiticide(monthly heartworm preventative) plays into this treatment - I DONT KNOW. I'm not even sure if the article precisely discusses the use of this drug with doxy as this treatment. IT MAY EVEN BE THE PREVENTATIVE THAT YOU CAN NOT GIVE DOGS ONCE THEY HAVE HEART WORMS..! So dont try this without consultation with good vet familiar with this new procedure. This vet - will be hard to come by - A$ Surely, thi$ treatment minimize$ hi$ INCOME....!


http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/11/22/cheaper-safer-therapy-for-heartworm.aspx

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Five Signs Your Dog Loves You
[IMO, more important are signs you love your dog.]
Five Signs Your Dog Loves You - Speakeasy - WSJ

Having spent the last two years training dogs to go in an MRI to see what makes them tick, people often ask me why I needed an MRI to know that dogs love us.

Of course they love us. MRI is beginning to show the how and the why.

But until we get a more complete roadmap of the canine brain, what signs do dogs give that show that you are more than a food-dispenser?

 

[dogsilver7]

I think we are food dispensers that they love.

 

[cvictorg]

It doesn't get cuter than this

 

[pittbox]

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[BBC3]

Animals are REALLY the only way to learn and understand emotion these days. I think everyone should take to time to explain animal behavior to their children as a MUST LEARN, as we have strayed so far from our nature, and suffer greatly for this as HUMANS.. A dog is PURE and TRUE and CAN NOT LIE... That will be the day when A dog has learned a "poker face" - LOL, and actually come to think - my lab just might have.. LOL

The most obvious form of the failure of humanity is the TOTAL DISREGARD FOR CONSIDERATION OF FEELINGS OF OTHERS... And justified by "LANGUAGE USE"... Just imagine the sickest bastard you know, and don't they just walk up to you with a total suck hole and die routine whilst lying with words. These people are the worst form of maniacal nutcases which have failed the universe in all ways. To master the acknowledgement of another's feelings and yet still be able to utilize WORDS is the real trick. More importantly the acknowledgement of our own feelings. To span both bridges at ONCE is to be a ZEN MASTER...

What I find interesting is how you always hear about someone panicing in the presence of a wild animal on a strange odd encounter, and getting fuked good for it. So why is it that the display of FEAR should cause a wild animal to attack? or more so the display and act of completely IRRATIONAL BEHAVIOR in the presence of an ANIMAL. It is a case where FEAR Destroys as well as Empowers, and depending on what side of the line you stand - is the point. The REAL ODDITY is the INSECT WHICH JUST SEEM NON-NEGOTIABLE.. ?!? Even a REPTILE has "animal instincts" which can be "reasoned and navigated" if properly identified and acted on in TIME... STILL, DO insects only "sting" when in "Fear" of their safety. Or do they? But if you consider the lifespan of an insect, you must consider reaction time required is CRITICAL, and the time it took that bee to land on your arm and get pissed might have been two weeks for him...

How many of your kidz know to look at, but AWAY from a strange dog, and to put the top of their hand our SLOWLY for Sniff if approached.?? How many of your kidz know to move as slow as a fucking slug if encountering a SNAKE.? How many of your kidz even know to stay away from areas wild animals roam? How many KNOW when that wild dog has made the commitment to fight... And then what it takes to survive..!!! You ain't seen shit till you been walking in the morning and seen a little dark skinned woman walking with FOUR/Count-em - FUKIN 4!!! Full size Police style German Shepherds on her command... You hope...!

The NOTEWORTHY Observation is the INVERSE RELATION of the REACTION between TWO LIFE ENTITIES. Whereas, the Greater the perceived threat with GREATER VARIANCE IN POTENTIAL FORCE always equals the likelihood of a home severe strike (wasp or snake vs. human). Whereas a larger animal (MORE EQUAL) will more likely keep its distance with intent, and more likely back down if you will too. The larger of the two may even allow a "stay of execution" to the smaller if no threat is perceived - if props are appropriated (Bear vs. Human)... "Props" being an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of UNDERSTANDING... the wildcard is always PANIC.. And what do animals do to an animal which is not behaving as an animal should??

Words don't work in the woods... Do they really work anywhere. What will the concept of "Facetime" do to communications. But what about the phone call?? The good ol telephone.. Up till now, we have enjoyed the luxury of the "phonecall" where we can sit there and MAKE FACES whilst we talk in tones and make faces the DO NOT Equate. How many of you got the ballz to "facetime". How many of you just Cringe at the notion. Could this be a positive for our up an coming youth...?!?!! And the irony being that whilst they return to more animal truth in communication, their bodies go to SHIT like never before. So the animal lives again, and dies again...

Five Signs Your Dog Loves You
[IMO, more important are signs you love your dog.]
Five Signs Your Dog Loves You - Speakeasy - WSJ

Having spent the last two years training dogs to go in an MRI to see what makes them tick, people often ask me why I needed an MRI to know that dogs love us.

Of course they love us. MRI is beginning to show the how and the why.

But until we get a more complete roadmap of the canine brain, what signs do dogs give that show that you are more than a food-dispenser?

 

[smiles]

hen being silly cause he loves the warm fire I started...

 

[smiles]

Hahaha this funny, stoner dog...

 

[BIGMESC]

I just found out last week that Spot my best friend for over 10 years is dying.
I knew something was wrong when i found him sleeping in the corner of the laundry room. He was lethargic not his normal energetic happy self. Vet says his heart is going and has fluid building up around it and liver shows signs of stress, possible bleeding tumors as he is also anemic.

It is nice to be able to have time to say my goodbyes and allow my son to adjust to the idea of life without a friend he has always known his blood brother in fact.

Funny story.
My son was born a home so we saved his placenta to plant under an Oak tree. Well we were busy and put it in the freeze till we were ready. Mom comes over to help wife as she recovered and though she would take a Roast out of the freezer and defrost it for dinner. You guessed it she grabbed the placenta and I guess Spot just couldn't resist the smell of that big ball of flesh defrosting on the counter. We were at the neighbors and see Spot frolicking around the yard slinging this bloody mass up in the air and catching it, shaking blood everywhere.
My wife was mortified and I still laugh when I think about it.


Just wanted to send shot out for THE BEST DOG EVER....SPOT

 

[Michael Scally MD]

I just found out last week that Spot my best friend for over 10 years is dying.
I knew something was wrong when i found him sleeping in the corner of the laundry room. He was lethargic not his normal energetic happy self. Vet says his heart is going and has fluid building up around it and liver shows signs of stress, possible bleeding tumors as he is also anemic.

It is nice to be able to have time to say my goodbyes and allow my son to adjust to the idea of life without a friend he has always known his blood brother in fact.

Funny story.
My son was born a home so we saved his placenta to plant under an Oak tree. Well we were busy and put it in the freeze till we were ready. Mom comes over to help wife as she recovered and though she would take a Roast out of the freezer and defrost it for dinner. You guessed it she grabbed the placenta and I guess Spot just couldn't resist the smell of that big ball of flesh defrosting on the counter. We were at the neighbors and see Spot frolicking around the yard slinging this bloody mass up in the air and catching it, shaking blood everywhere.
My wife was mortified and I still laugh when I think about it.


Just wanted to send shot out for THE BEST DOG EVER....SPOT

Thank you for sharing. I am with you. And, been there. I remember all of my pets. They are the very best times in my life.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbWjikkIBXg[/ame]

 

[pittbox]

I just found out last week that Spot my best friend for over 10 years is dying.
I knew something was wrong when i found him sleeping in the corner of the laundry room. He was lethargic not his normal energetic happy self. Vet says his heart is going and has fluid building up around it and liver shows signs of stress, possible bleeding tumors as he is also anemic.

It is nice to be able to have time to say my goodbyes and allow my son to adjust to the idea of life without a friend he has always known his blood brother in fact.

Funny story.
My son was born a home so we saved his placenta to plant under an Oak tree. Well we were busy and put it in the freeze till we were ready. Mom comes over to help wife as she recovered and though she would take a Roast out of the freezer and defrost it for dinner. You guessed it she grabbed the placenta and I guess Spot just couldn't resist the smell of that big ball of flesh defrosting on the counter. We were at the neighbors and see Spot frolicking around the yard slinging this bloody mass up in the air and catching it, shaking blood everywhere.
My wife was mortified and I still laugh when I think about it.


Just wanted to send shot out for THE BEST DOG EVER....SPOT

Sorry to hear that BIG.
Its something we all have to go through and it sucks. My family has owned boxers since the 60's, when I was born there were three in the house, so I have literally never been without one. The thing about boxers is they have very short life expectancy and the highest rate of cancer of any breed.
So I have said goodbye to more then I care to think about. I feel like animals are the only truly innocent thing this world has to offer, and dogs especially because we created them and therefore have a responsibility for their well being.
A person that cannot find compassion for an animal (especially dogs) is not worthy of the air he breathes.

 

[skinnyguy24]

this thread choked me up a bit. I lost my baby girl in june.she was a beautiful rednose pitbull. .... I did everything with her for 5 years. no matter where I went she had shotgun. but one night she didn't come home. next morning I get a ring, she was hit by a car ..... ive losts pets before when I was younger but this hurt more... rip baby