Dr. John Crisler Arrest - 'The War on Men'

Dr Crisler had serious problems with his wife. Why do some
here care that much about his problem? Some here are even cursing
at the man. What's their interest in this matter?
 
Its kind of interesting to see how medical professionals have issues of their own like nornal people. Being in this circle of health professionals you be shocked of the drama I hear every day going on behind closed doors. Its puts general Hospital to shame. Its real and kind of truly pathetic how people put them selves Into situation which could have easily avoided. Have all this medically knowledge and lack common sense.
 
Note these are the professionals who are helping you get better. That is why I see a couselor, just to keep me focused, on track because one stupid move or miscalculation could loss everything. It takes years to build a reputation. .seconds to destroy it. I think every professional should have a person they can turn too or just keep them focused on task at hand..
 
Its kind of interesting to see how medical professionals have issues of their own like nornal people. Being in this circle of health professionals you be shocked of the drama I hear every day going on behind closed doors. Its puts general Hospital to shame. Its real and kind of truly pathetic how people put them selves Into situation which could have easily avoided. Have all this medically knowledge and lack common sense.

Anyone with average intelligence and a good work ethic can become a physician....maybe not the best physician but a physician none the less. With that in mind they come with ALL the same baggage from childhood that everyone has. They come with all the same mental/emotional/psychological issues that everyone does. Why would anyone wonder why they deal with all the same shit other people deal with too?
 
Be surprised how many times I almost got sucked into it not by choice just by association. Why I am very cautious of what medical professionals I associate with because what their reputation is with in the circle. .
 
Be surprised how many times I almost got sucked into it not by choice just by association. Why I am very cautious of what medical professionals I associate with because what their reputation is with in the circle. .

Sure...it's not just my reputation but the reputation of my partners too. Anyone of us screws up big time and it's plastered all over the media and we will all suffer to some degree or another. It doesn't happen often but we've had to sit partners down and apply "partner-peer pressure" because we felt their actions were imposing too much liability on the rest of us.

Guys who are solo-practioners and who don't have this built-in "peer-review" can get kind of crazy.....I've seen it many times in terms of performing procedures that deviate drastically from standard of care. It usually happens slowly over years and then before you know it 10 years later they're fucking shit up.....

These are usually also the guys who have built their own little "universe" around them where staff tell them they are the greatest even though they are taking shortcuts or have crazy ideas or whatever. Crisler is one of these guys....he's built his own little self-promoting, self-reassuring universe where he can feel like God because he's surrounded himself with people who just suck on his nuts all day long.
 
Note these are the professionals who are helping you get better. That is why I see a couselor, just to keep me focused, on track because one stupid move or miscalculation could loss everything. It takes years to build a reputation. .seconds to destroy it. I think every professional should have a person they can turn too or just keep them focused on task at hand..


Yep-- reputations can go quickly!!!!!


High School classmate became a surgeon and ended up practicing close to his/our home town. He played golf fairly regularly and liked to have a drink or so after some rounds. He NEVER drove his car after imbibing in alcohol. Even though he was well under legal blood alcohol limit he felt that even a fender bender might destroy his reputation. He took a taxi or had a "handler" drive him home from the country club!! People making several million/year can afford "handlers!

BTW- his reputation was perfect when re retired this past year at 64.
 
I was notified that all of Crisler's appeals have been denied. Also, I was told that in stark contrast to his postings of conspiracy, innocence, etc., there has been nothing (not a peep) from him about this latest news. http://www.allthingsmale.com/forum/showthread.php?21026-Dr-John-Crisler-is-Illegally-In-Possession-of-a-Penis!/page72

On 02/14/14, Crisler's domestic violence (woman beating) conviction has been affirmed. His appeal to find his lawyer as ineffective was denied. And, the restitution stay has been lifted. https://secure.courts.michigan.gov/jis/entry

02/14/14
MISCELLANEOUS ACTION
ALL COUNTS

CIRCUIT CT NOTICE FILED. 7 DAY ORDER.

DEFT [CRISLER] CONVICTION FORM 09/20/11 AND SENTENCE FROM 11/01/11 ARE AFFIRMED, 55TH DC ORDER DENY DEFT'S [CRISLER] MOTION TO FIND DEF'S [CRISLER] TRIAL COUNSEL INEFFECTIVE IS AFFIRMED & THE 8/23/13 ORDER FROM 55TH DC IS AFFIRMED. STAY OF RESTITUTION IS LIFTED

SUPPLEMENTAL SENTENCING $4636.72 ADD RESTITUTION BACK ON FILE. STAY LIFTED PER CIRCUIT COURT ORDER RESTITUTION $4636.72.
 
Crisler's a quack anyways. Take a look at his forums and how he has gone out of his way to badmouth Dr. Scally. That is all you need to see. He acts like he has revolutionary ideas, when all he has done is piggyback off of others work, and try to claim it as his own.
 
My bad, I thought DV was a felony.
Put the dude in jail so not sure a misdemeanor would do that.
 
Am I to understand that he only spent a few days in jail and was fined ~$5,000?

Sadly, that "man cave" of his probably makes that much in a single week.

I was hoping for something more severe.
 
Wow it looks like John has spent a considerable amount of effort (not to mention words) to clear his name:

http://www.allthingsmale.com/forum/showthread.php?21026-Dr-John-Crisler-is-Illegally-In-Possession-of-a-Penis!/page72

It probably would have been easier if he just didn't beat his wife in the first place...
 
I just realized the date of the ORDER is Valentine's Day!!!

Do you think the COURT did this on purpose to send a message. LOL
 
Got to give Crisler some props for the approach he took regarding his situation. He basically screamed from the top of buildings and ranted on and on and on about perceived corruption which deflected people's interest away from the root of the case - domestic abuse. It's a genius move perfected by the quintessential politician who are avoiding similar scandals and negative publicity.
 
I know/have known - enough folks in the field ranging from those who wash the instruments, to scrub techs, to IM docs, to specialty docs.

On the first part of what you said. You MUST DEFINE INTELLIGENCE...! Cause it's more like "ANYONE WHO CAN MEMORIZE A BOOK"..... Which is NOT a good thing and especially when patients tend to view docs as "demigods" and falsely. Which brings to YES- They are folks JUST LIKE you and me...! But further, their problems are ten fold. Ranging from severe drug abuse problems industry-wide, to legal, to sociopolitical pressures, to just plain old PROMISCUITY PROBLEMS (when everyone always trying to get in the pants of folks with power - man or woman). And ESPECIALLY HOSPITALS are just like filthy Roman Bath Houses behind the scenes... Got to have something to do with INTEREST or COMFORT with the Human Body (due to either inherent exposure or whatever underlying motive drives a person to be in that field - But NO ONE in those places is SHY...)

1. So Imagine you pay a SHIT PILE of TAXES (It seems like I recall the 275K mark being the TAX NIGHTMARE POINT..).
2. Every woman around you wants to go on a date (and you cant trust ANYONE's motive due to $$$).
3. The sweet hot little nurse that convince you to stick it in her (she was so sweet and made it sound like innocent fun - Besides how's a guy gonna say no to some cock-starved hotty down on her knees trying to rip your cock our of your pants) IS NOW the anti-christ threaten to call you wife every day while you promise you will leave that mean old thing at home for her every day again.
4. 20 of you current patients are dying, or have NASTY terminal conditions for which you dare not speak to them the gory detail. While their family cries looking for psychological support, and counting on YOU to help their loved one.
5. Another person calls out of the blue to threaten your life for God knows what.
6. Drug seeking idiots are making appointments pretending/playing games, begging, demanding drugs for recreational use while they pretend otherwise.
7. You have to make ANOTHER fucking call to BC/BS to convey a procedure auth on a script, treatment, or surgery.
8. While the managing partners are looking over your files to make sure you are operating within "practice protocol".
9. And you sit there starting to wonder WHAT you are doing as you get so confused you dont even know if you should treat a person a certain way, the RIGHT WAY, because of all this.
10. Lets not forget the hours, and all this to pay your FIRST WIFE absurd amounts of alimony, and when SHE was the one who cheated on YOU first.. 11. So you net no more than a high end auto mechanic, and dont have the time to spend it if you got ANY of it.
12. All along the stress is EATING YOUR LUNCH..

(NOT that Crisler falls in this general category necessarily, but he is a guy like you and me)

NO ONE should judge a relationship between a man and his wife. We all know the game. We are all the same and two always tangle. The bottom line is SHE is the one fucking with him now, she should NOT be pressing those charges and she did the dance. SHE pressed the buttons. SHE KNEW the result. SHE IS STABBING HIS BACK. Woman's scorn and all. He probably chose poorly, else he would not have the issue. Clearly she does not love him, else... ... ... She married him knowing who he was/is... I mean really, she did something equally deserving obviously..! Why the fuck would a man be fighting with his wife OTHERWISE.. !

And a DV Charge is NO JOKE in MANY STATES these days. You cant ever own a gun if convicted of that charge where I live...

I acknowledge YOU are NOT one of the one's judging...
Anyone with average intelligence and a good work ethic can become a physician....maybe not the best physician but a physician none the less. With that in mind they come with ALL the same baggage from childhood that everyone has. They come with all the same mental/emotional/psychological issues that everyone does. Why would anyone wonder why they deal with all the same shit other people deal with too?
 
I know/have known - enough folks in the field ranging from those who wash the instruments, to scrub techs, to IM docs, to specialty docs.

On the first part of what you said. You MUST DEFINE INTELLIGENCE...! Cause it's more like "ANYONE WHO CAN MEMORIZE A BOOK"..... Which is NOT a good thing and especially when patients tend to view docs as "demigods" and falsely. Which brings to YES- They are folks JUST LIKE you and me...! But further, their problems are ten fold. Ranging from severe drug abuse problems industry-wide, to legal, to sociopolitical pressures, to just plain old PROMISCUITY PROBLEMS (when everyone always trying to get in the pants of folks with power - man or woman). And ESPECIALLY HOSPITALS are just like filthy Roman Bath Houses behind the scenes... Got to have something to do with INTEREST or COMFORT with the Human Body (due to either inherent exposure or whatever underlying motive drives a person to be in that field - But NO ONE in those places is SHY...)

1. So Imagine you pay a SHIT PILE of TAXES (It seems like I recall the 275K mark being the TAX NIGHTMARE POINT..).
2. Every woman around you wants to go on a date (and you cant trust ANYONE's motive due to $$$).
3. The sweet hot little nurse that convince you to stick it in her (she was so sweet and made it sound like innocent fun - Besides how's a guy gonna say no to some cock-starved hotty down on her knees trying to rip your cock our of your pants) IS NOW the anti-christ threaten to call you wife every day while you promise you will leave that mean old thing at home for her every day again.
4. 20 of you current patients are dying, or have NASTY terminal conditions for which you dare not speak to them the gory detail. While their family cries looking for psychological support, and counting on YOU to help their loved one.
5. Another person calls out of the blue to threaten your life for God knows what.
6. Drug seeking idiots are making appointments pretending/playing games, begging, demanding drugs for recreational use while they pretend otherwise.
7. You have to make ANOTHER fucking call to BC/BS to convey a procedure auth on a script, treatment, or surgery.
8. While the managing partners are looking over your files to make sure you are operating within "practice protocol".
9. And you sit there starting to wonder WHAT you are doing as you get so confused you dont even know if you should treat a person a certain way, the RIGHT WAY, because of all this.
10. Lets not forget the hours, and all this to pay your FIRST WIFE absurd amounts of alimony, and when SHE was the one who cheated on YOU first.. 11. So you net no more than a high end auto mechanic, and dont have the time to spend it if you got ANY of it.
12. All along the stress is EATING YOUR LUNCH..

(NOT that Crisler falls in this general category necessarily, but he is a guy like you and me)

NO ONE should judge a relationship between a man and his wife. We all know the game. We are all the same and two always tangle. The bottom line is SHE is the one fucking with him now, she should NOT be pressing those charges and she did the dance. SHE pressed the buttons. SHE KNEW the result. SHE IS STABBING HIS BACK. Woman's scorn and all. He probably chose poorly, else he would not have the issue. Clearly she does not love him, else... ... ... She married him knowing who he was/is... I mean really, she did something equally deserving obviously..! Why the fuck would a man be fighting with his wife OTHERWISE.. !

And a DV Charge is NO JOKE in MANY STATES these days. You cant ever own a gun if convicted of that charge where I live...

I acknowledge YOU are NOT one of the one's judging...

We've got to set up a Podcast for you. :)
 
I know/have known - enough folks in the field ranging from those who wash the instruments, to scrub techs, to IM docs, to specialty docs.

On the first part of what you said. You MUST DEFINE INTELLIGENCE...! Cause it's more like "ANYONE WHO CAN MEMORIZE A BOOK"..... Which is NOT a good thing and especially when patients tend to view docs as "demigods" and falsely. Which brings to YES- They are folks JUST LIKE you and me...! But further, their problems are ten fold. Ranging from severe drug abuse problems industry-wide, to legal, to sociopolitical pressures, to just plain old PROMISCUITY PROBLEMS (when everyone always trying to get in the pants of folks with power - man or woman). And ESPECIALLY HOSPITALS are just like filthy Roman Bath Houses behind the scenes... Got to have something to do with INTEREST or COMFORT with the Human Body (due to either inherent exposure or whatever underlying motive drives a person to be in that field - But NO ONE in those places is SHY...)

1. So Imagine you pay a SHIT PILE of TAXES (It seems like I recall the 275K mark being the TAX NIGHTMARE POINT..).
2. Every woman around you wants to go on a date (and you cant trust ANYONE's motive due to $$$).
3. The sweet hot little nurse that convince you to stick it in her (she was so sweet and made it sound like innocent fun - Besides how's a guy gonna say no to some cock-starved hotty down on her knees trying to rip your cock our of your pants) IS NOW the anti-christ threaten to call you wife every day while you promise you will leave that mean old thing at home for her every day again.
4. 20 of you current patients are dying, or have NASTY terminal conditions for which you dare not speak to them the gory detail. While their family cries looking for psychological support, and counting on YOU to help their loved one.
5. Another person calls out of the blue to threaten your life for God knows what.
6. Drug seeking idiots are making appointments pretending/playing games, begging, demanding drugs for recreational use while they pretend otherwise.
7. You have to make ANOTHER fucking call to BC/BS to convey a procedure auth on a script, treatment, or surgery.
8. While the managing partners are looking over your files to make sure you are operating within "practice protocol".
9. And you sit there starting to wonder WHAT you are doing as you get so confused you dont even know if you should treat a person a certain way, the RIGHT WAY, because of all this.
10. Lets not forget the hours, and all this to pay your FIRST WIFE absurd amounts of alimony, and when SHE was the one who cheated on YOU first.. 11. So you net no more than a high end auto mechanic, and dont have the time to spend it if you got ANY of it.
12. All along the stress is EATING YOUR LUNCH..

(NOT that Crisler falls in this general category necessarily, but he is a guy like you and me)

NO ONE should judge a relationship between a man and his wife. We all know the game. We are all the same and two always tangle. The bottom line is SHE is the one fucking with him now, she should NOT be pressing those charges and she did the dance. SHE pressed the buttons. SHE KNEW the result. SHE IS STABBING HIS BACK. Woman's scorn and all. He probably chose poorly, else he would not have the issue. Clearly she does not love him, else... ... ... She married him knowing who he was/is... I mean really, she did something equally deserving obviously..! Why the fuck would a man be fighting with his wife OTHERWISE.. !

And a DV Charge is NO JOKE in MANY STATES these days. You cant ever own a gun if convicted of that charge where I live...

I acknowledge YOU are NOT one of the one's judging...

BBC as I spent a career reading endless motions and other endless tomes, I must profess I do not often read much of your writing as it is far from concise let alone does it often remain on point. I have seen some pearls of wisdom from time to time but this rant is idiotic and I will explain.

1. No matter how big a bitch she is or has become, you never lay your hands on her other than to restrain her to call for the police if she has struck you. If she is fucking your best friend on a pile of your cash that you now have to split with her so she can continue fucking your best friend, you walk away. I grew up in a tough neighborhood and the youngest of many brothers so I used to enjoy skinning knuckles and busting lips, but you never did it to a woman, no matter what. I have been attacked by a former girlfriend and was even hit with a bottle once in a club by a woman who thought I was someone else, and never did it require more than a wrist lock or an arm bar to stop their assault. You just don't hit a woman or a child in combat, period, no matter how big an asshole they are and how much you think they deserve it. (This does not apply to a 17 year old male that is as large and strong as an adult male and you are defending yourself).

2. I am a firm believer in the 2nd amendment and carry myself. Even as a believer in the second amendment, I could absolutely argue that as it is written in the constitution, this does not give us the unalienable right for anyone to bear arms. This means felons and yes, even those convicted of DV have given up that privilege. It is not accused, but convicted. I would not disagree that occasionally an innocent person is wrongly convicted...but the vast majority that are convicted, are guilty. They all bitch and whine like Crissler that they are innocent, but I did not have a single defendant of any crime in well over 20 years of practice that came into my office saying "Yup I did it!" They all claim innocence. So if our legal system, which is truly the most fair on the planet for the most part, convicted an individual of either beating your spouse, child or parent, then you are an idiot if you think that individual should be able to own guns.

Sorry for being blunt but I can't watch a brother even joke that it is OK to hit a woman.
 
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