Should you run cardarine alongside your blasts/cycles? Let's look at the facts.

[justanoob]

Cardarine always halves my ldl and triglycerides within the first week. If your cholesterol was higher it was not cardarine. I haven't had any other benefits from taking it and I've ran up to 40mg. Maybe it's because I've ran 80mg telmisartan for years.

How much of effect does 80mg of telmisartan have on your BP? My BP during this blast sits around 130/80 and I wasn’t sure if it would drop it to low?

 

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How do you take it? I thought it was oral but I think I've read where some pin it?

Most sources are selling orals, only one I have found sells injectables but that is by far my preferred method.

The dosing is the same, I just mix it in with veterinary B complex (cheap!), and tren base. I don't actually recommend doing that as the pain is... exquisite. Fantastic PWO though.

 

[PeterBond]

Cardarine was being used by virtually every athlete at the Beijing Olympics? Do you mind sharing the references for:
- the clinical trials studies
- the infamous cancerous rat study
- the anti-cancer study or studies (serious medical claim here)

I appreciate that you tagged on a link to a general query for "cardarine" on SAGE, but that's highly insufficient! Making a post like this necessitates some specific citations for claims made. Not being an ass, but could you provide inline citations whenever you make a post like this (making grandiose scientific claims)?

You've done a great job pumping up the mystique around cardarine for sure. I am interested in learning a bit about it.

Cardarine will likely be included in the 2nd edition of my book. I might run an article on it before that.

 

[juicebro]

How much of effect does 80mg of telmisartan have on your BP? My BP during this blast sits around 130/80 and I wasn’t sure if it would drop it to low?

I'm running 10mg cialis daily too so it's hard to say. I haven't found telmisartan to be super effective for lowering blood pressure. It would probably knock 10-15 points off your systolic.

Telmisartan has so many benefits when it comes to AAS use. It's one of those things you might want to run even if your bp isn't high. Ezetimibe is another one. Similar to statins but doesn't have the nasty side effects.

 

[justanoob]

I'm running 10mg cialis daily too so it's hard to say. I haven't found telmisartan to be super effective for lowering blood pressure. It would probably knock 10-15 points off your systolic.

Telmisartan has so many benefits when it comes to AAS use. It's one of those things you might want to run even if your bp isn't high. Ezetimibe is another one. Similar to statins but doesn't have the nasty side effects.

Yeah you are probably right. I think I’m going to start at 40mg and see what it does to my BP, then make adjustments from there. Do you take yours AM or PM?

 

[juicebro]

Yeah you are probably right. I think I’m going to start at 40mg and see what it does to my BP, then make adjustments from there. Do you take yours AM or PM?

I take most the drugs and supplements on an empty stomach in the morning.

 

[Bumpygooch]

Cardarine always halves my ldl and triglycerides within the first week. If your cholesterol was higher it was not cardarine. I haven't had any other benefits from taking it and I've ran up to 40mg. Maybe it's because I've ran 80mg telmisartan for years.

It was the cardarine as that was the only thing different. It was a control to see if cardarine could reduce my LDL before yielding to the Dr and starting statins.

 

[Bumpygooch]

Yeah you are probably right. I think I’m going to start at 40mg and see what it does to my BP, then make adjustments from there. Do you take yours AM or PM?

40mg/day is a great dose. As has been mentioned, great overall drug, it’s in the ED rotation along with metformin and cialis.

 

[Megadick3000]

Cardarine is pretty interesting. Ive used it many times, 10mg per dose. My favorite pre workout combo i e ever used is cardarine, albuterol, citrulline, and yohimbine. Just throw some cheque drops into that mix to have all the bases covered (never done it, but aspire to try the combo someday).

I find cardarine gives me unlimited endurance. I use it occassionally on its own when freediving or surfing, hobbies of mine that really test your endurance, it definitely makes a difference.

How does it pair with AAS cycles? Im less knowledgable on this aspect. I recall guys on tren were loving it to offset some of the sides but maybe im recollecting wrong.

 

[ShredMN]

Cardarine is pretty interesting. Ive used it many times, 10mg per dose. My favorite pre workout combo i e ever used is cardarine, albuterol, citrulline, and yohimbine. Just throw some cheque drops into that mix to have all the bases covered (never done it, but aspire to try the combo someday).

I find cardarine gives me unlimited endurance. I use it occassionally on its own when freediving or surfing, hobbies of mine that really test your endurance, it definitely makes a difference.

How does it pair with AAS cycles? Im less knowledgable on this aspect. I recall guys on tren were loving it to offset some of the sides but maybe im recollecting wrong.

Cardarine is phenomenal for cardiovascular endurance and the term “exercise in a bottle” is spot on accurate.

 

[Live_Evil]

Cardarine is pretty interesting. Ive used it many times, 10mg per dose. My favorite pre workout combo i e ever used is cardarine, albuterol, citrulline, and yohimbine. Just throw some cheque drops into that mix to have all the bases covered (never done it, but aspire to try the combo someday).

I find cardarine gives me unlimited endurance. I use it occassionally on its own when freediving or surfing, hobbies of mine that really test your endurance, it definitely makes a difference.

How does it pair with AAS cycles? Im less knowledgable on this aspect. I recall guys on tren were loving it to offset some of the sides but maybe im recollecting wrong.

I love pairing it with AAS. The added cardiovascular capacity pairs perfectly with the strength gains from certain compounds. Anavar + cardarine = super enjoyable training sessions.

 

[AndrewD]

Yeah you are probably right. I think I’m going to start at 40mg and see what it does to my BP, then make adjustments from there. Do you take yours AM or PM?

Hello, I suggest you start 40 mg before bed as you say, I read some studies where its shown to be more effective to lower morning BP spikes when taken before bed. 40mg of telmisartan is 70%-80% effective of what 80mg can do, it can knock down lets say easily 10-12 systolic and 5 diastolic. 80mg can do 15-17 systolic. Im using 40mg before bed for last 3 months, works great, no side effects. if you were in a need of lowering BP even more, its worth to add second BP agent, not increasing telmisartan dose over 80mg

 

[MFAAS]

So the cancer thing with Cardarine has always scared me. Both my grandfathers dies of cancer. One was a smoker for decades (quit cold turkey one day while his wife was still chain smoking!! Talk about triggers!! Just an amazing man). Mt other grandpa smoked occasionally/socially. I think he might have smoked one cig per night after work to wind down and thats it. My mom also had and beat breast cancer.

So naturally cardarine has scared me. I have read a plethora of the studies @malfeasance showing the mixed effects on different types of cancer.

Is therr any benefit to running like 5 mg? I am a lower dose kinda guy. I am very curious about the benefits, but am quite apprehensive about potentially increasing certain types of cancer...but the cardiovascular benefits seems so good...

25 is the max. I notice a positive impact on the lipids at just 5, and a fairly dramatic performance enhancing effect at 10.

It's worth noting, there are guys who claim cardarine did nothing at all for them. No impact on the lipids, and no PE effect.

I'm not sure how the fuck it can vary so dramatically in certain outliers, but apparently it does.

Maybe they just got bunk shit? Or they could be making it up and never really tried it at all. People are weird as hell and will certainly spend lots of time writing up a post that is totallTRTy made up just to get likes or the satisfaction or getting someone to agree with them lol. It is pretty pathetic. Or maybe it is Russia and China trying to stop the US from using the stuff and then they will have an upper hand in the olympics!!!

Most sources are selling orals, only one I have found sells injectables but that is by far my preferred method.

The dosing is the same, I just mix it in with veterinary B complex (cheap!), and tren base. I don't actually recommend doing that as the pain is... exquisite. Fantastic PWO though.

Is the pain nad because of the cardarine or because of the tren base? What is the benefit of injectible cardarine? Just faster onset of effects? And maybe not having to taste the stuff. I am sure it doesn't taste great, as with most chems.

Just throw some cheque drops into that mix to have all the bases covered

Random. But how do you pronounce cheque drops? I Lways wondered? Is it just like "check"? Or is ot "check-you" or perhaps "cheek"? Lol XD

 

[Megadick3000]

Random. But how do you pronounce cheque drops? I Lways wondered? Is it just like "check"? Or is ot "check-you" or perhaps "cheek"? Lol XD

Nah bro its french, you pronounce it “cheh-qway” and then you eat a croissant.

 

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Is the pain nad because of the cardarine or because of the tren base? What is the benefit of injectible cardarine? Just faster onset of effects?

The pain is there even without the tren base. The B complex I use helps cut the PIP a bit.

The injectable cardarine (for me) is essentially a stimulant with some effect on my cardio health and fat loss. The onset is indeed very quick which is why I use that concoction (Cardarine, Tren Base, and B complex) as an injectable PWO.

The PIP passes within 2-5 minutes and is occasionally totally absent. No clue why.

 

[Demondosage]

Does anyone here have sleep issues on it? Just curious.

 

[MFAAS]

Nah bro its french, you pronounce it “cheh-qway” and then you eat a croissant.

Fuck yeah man, a croissant filled with a cardarine fraîche. The preworkout of champions!

 

[Live_Evil]

Does anyone here have sleep issues on it? Just curious.

I've never experienced that, but I could see it happening if you have reactive tachycardia. Did it feel like you had an adrenaline rush? Did your heart race?

 

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Does anyone here have sleep issues on it? Just curious.

Not unless I take it too late in the day (like after 1700).

 

[Demondosage]

I've never experienced that, but I could see it happening if you have reactive tachycardia. Did it feel like you had an adrenaline rush? Did your heart race?

Nah, it doesn't do that to me, but lately been having bad sleep but that could be stress also.