That's very disheartening to hear. I was considering seeing HAN/overbeck but this post makes it hard to follow through on that lol. I also didnt know han had no qualifications (like the other poster here stated) and he does make some really ridiculous claims about curing autism and how he changed lefs packaging system or something like that i cant remember. And alot of his posts are littered with advertising like 'if you need a good doc pm me i'll give you the best'. I never met the guy so i cant say how good or bad he is, but these posts are making me reconsider seeing him.
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Dr. Mariano or Dr. Crisler?
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That's very disheartening to hear. I was considering seeing HAN/overbeck but this post makes it hard to follow through on that lol. I also didnt know han had no qualifications (like the other poster here stated) and he does make some really ridiculous claims about curing autism and how he changed lefs packaging system or something like that i cant remember. And alot of his posts are littered with advertising like 'if you need a good doc pm me i'll give you the best'. I never met the guy so i cant say how good or bad he is, but these posts are making me reconsider seeing him.
Dont you guys see, han is on here touting for business, he wants to make money of desperate people, uses overbeck to practise. They are frauds.
Han is clearly a former steroid user who blew himself out and became hypogonadal. Yet he cant bring his natural test levels back, he takes trt.
250 dollars for a consult with Han, i knew straight away the guy was dodgy, never gave any advice at all for free, would not even answer simple questions, i had to pay him first and do the consult....and he would get my test levels back naturally....a guy who aint a doctor....who messes about with herbal medicines he should not mess with.......what does he know, he is on trt himself. No way can he compare himself to a true ayuverdic unani master herbalist....just regular guy he is, trying stabs in the dark and experimenting on people.
Han is clearly a former steroid user who blew himself out and became hypogonadal. Yet he cant bring his natural test levels back, he takes trt.
250 dollars for a consult with Han, i knew straight away the guy was dodgy, never gave any advice at all for free, would not even answer simple questions, i had to pay him first and do the consult....and he would get my test levels back naturally....a guy who aint a doctor....who messes about with herbal medicines he should not mess with.......what does he know, he is on trt himself. No way can he compare himself to a true ayuverdic unani master herbalist....just regular guy he is, trying stabs in the dark and experimenting on people.
I read on another site that crisler posts under the name SWALE. Is that true?
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So they are all incompetents? Well thank the good lord and praise the natural herb maker of western india that we have you here to bestow upon us your great wisdom, strength, and courage. May you lead us into the light.
Well many people don't know that HAN is the one who actually handles your case until you've already flown out to see him and had follow up consultations for a period of time. It always seemed like Dr. Overbeck rarely spends time on your case which might be why he and HAN mutes the call when you ask him a question cause he don't know much about your case. Han steps in and tells him what to say. That's the feeling I got and I know others did too when I spoke with them.
coincidence? ....I think not!
Well said...they are frauds!!
FYI: For a reading of Dr.O posts go to http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/search.php?searchid=493434 [Be Prepared - LOL]
looks like they have been removed because the link does not work??
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. Whats his account name?
He did when he was here on meso a long time ago, but it wasn't a secret.
Take a look at all the post by Dr. Mariano and Crisler. Did they ever try to recruit people on these forums by say "Im the best in the business."...PM me for details...they NEVER did!! HAN has been here touting for business for a long time. I mean it just really looks bad doing it that way.
Everyone must ask themselves how the fuck did Dr. Overbeck has gotten this reputation for being "one of the best in the business," when he never posts on any forum?? I'm mean really think about that for a sec. This guy gets compared to Dr. Mariano and Crisler who have been posting for years. He posted for a month or two and as soon as he was asked for credentials he never returned again!!!!
There are many sick people out there who are in desperate need of help. They spend their hard earned money to fly out and see Overbeck to get fixed so they can be healthy again and in many cases to save their marriage. They spend tons of money for consultations and have no results. You ask why things are not working and they bullshit you. Your not on enough SAMe or not enough vitamin B or vitamin D and on and on...........
I won't deny that he has helped some people, but there are a lot who were not happy with both HAN and Dr. Overbeck.
Dr. Overbeck is not a hormone specialist. HAN follows everything Dr. John does. Go read some of HANS post here touting about GHRP-6 or transdermal DHEA or any other new treatment over the past few years, then go over to Dr. Johns forum where he introduces these new methods and HAN asking question about it. Then he comes here and posts acting like he knew about it.
Oh and don't forget HANS letter to Oprah.......fucking hilarious!!!
Yeah no shit. I can just imagine him sitting there, his pencil clutched in his fist, scribbling out that letter, every third word spelled wrong.
HeadDoc
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Ok guys, has the point been made about Dr O and Hans? Remember, the original poster wanted to know about something else entirely. Let's help him.
HeadDoc,
Do you not remember asking Dr. O for credentials and he would not give up any information? If I'm wrong and mixed you up with another person then I apologize, but it did happen. I am the original poster who wanted to know who to see as far as Mariano or Crisler, because I felt like Overbeck and HANS were frauds that's all.
I think an open and frank discussion of treatments and results is good. On other threads, specific treatments are questioned and analyzed. It will be best if posts can direct to "treatments" and "results." IMO, I have yet to see ONE case study for successful treatment, but lots of experimentation.
What was overbecks handle? I'd be curious to read over his posts.
And i also noticed that HAN himself isnt even fully well, so why does he always toot his horn saying hes helped 'thousands' of people and cured autism and some such shit? This is disheartening, people spend lots of money on them. But it seems fishy as hell the way you described it. But then again, theres always 2 sides to a story, innocent until proven guilty so i'd like to see a response from HAN.
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