Diet?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
First cycle log
StillMind
Member
My diet is 3200-3800 on training days, 2800 in rest days.
Average training day
Breakfast 6 eggs cooked in olive oil with a cup of low sugar oatmeal.
Lunch and dinner are usually
12-16oz of chicken, steak or beef,
rice, sweet potatoes or veggie pasta,
with either vegetable medley, green beans or broccoli.
I’m down to occasional protein shakes when needed.
Then I do 8:16 fasts on my rest days to help with my recomp.
Now maintaining 12% on my handheld bf scanner, dipping into the high 11s. My weight fluctuates from 193-195 dehydrated and gaining size.
StillMind
Member
Haven’t updated in a bit.
Natural progress really picked back up. Last weigh in was 196 at 12% body fat Monday. Waist size is down from 35.6” to 32.75”. Came down with a nasty cold and have taken the last 5 days off from lifting, but ready to hit it strong tomorrow after lots of rest and healthy foods.
I did general measurements after my first month of cutting. Will be posting that next to my current numbers the day of my first injection with an up to date picture.
General health side
I’m wanting to start a journal reporting my progress with cycling and trt, as far as side effects and mental health.
Overall I’m pretty level headed and confident. I do notice the mood swings of impatience, angst, depression, and general apathy. Energy levels are low, enough to workout before work and sit at a desk all day. Libido is weird. I have the general desire but almost like there’s no hormone fueling it. The worst though is mental fog.
My goal is to improve these, even if slightly with a trt dose after a base cycle. Just waiting for a few more things before I start.
Natural progress really picked back up. Last weigh in was 196 at 12% body fat Monday. Waist size is down from 35.6” to 32.75”. Came down with a nasty cold and have taken the last 5 days off from lifting, but ready to hit it strong tomorrow after lots of rest and healthy foods.
I did general measurements after my first month of cutting. Will be posting that next to my current numbers the day of my first injection with an up to date picture.
General health side
I’m wanting to start a journal reporting my progress with cycling and trt, as far as side effects and mental health.
Overall I’m pretty level headed and confident. I do notice the mood swings of impatience, angst, depression, and general apathy. Energy levels are low, enough to workout before work and sit at a desk all day. Libido is weird. I have the general desire but almost like there’s no hormone fueling it. The worst though is mental fog.
My goal is to improve these, even if slightly with a trt dose after a base cycle. Just waiting for a few more things before I start.
StillMind
Member
Alright Gents, the hairy fuck pulled through for me. Had to go through them since my original order a month ago still hasn’t arrived from pharmacomstore.
First injection will be after work with measurements. Weighed in at 194 @ 11.8% this morning.
Going to try and update like @FourOneDeuxFitt and @Morefyah. Keeping this thread with as much content as possible.
Any last minute tips, tricks or recommendations?
My focus will be on lean size but also getting my bench press up as that’s my weakest lift.
First injection will be after work with measurements. Weighed in at 194 @ 11.8% this morning.
Going to try and update like @FourOneDeuxFitt and @Morefyah. Keeping this thread with as much content as possible.
Any last minute tips, tricks or recommendations?
My focus will be on lean size but also getting my bench press up as that’s my weakest lift.
Worf
Elite
What’s your program look like at the gym?
StillMind
Member
Workouts are by body part. Chest, back, arms, shoulders and legs. Legs are rotated weekly between Hamstrings and quads now. I started writing it down about a month ago if you want to read my recent routines. Everything is focused on time under tension and pumping the muscles. But I do through in heavy lifting days depending on how my body is responding that day.
Worf
Elite
Why not quads and hams every week? Post em up
StillMind
Member
I can’t remember who it was, but saw someone on here doing it and gave it a try. Mostly doing it so I can hammer away at each big lift without taking away from the other. I was doing squats then SLDL. My deadlifts were strong but I was losing out doing my squats first. And doing dead’s before squats doesnt sound like fun without a spotter.
Routine
8/27/18 Chest (skipped legs to take it light after cold)
Chest press TUT
- 90x12 / 140x12 / 190x10
- 90x10 / 90x10 / 90x10
- 20x8 / 20x8 / 20x8
- 90x12 / 90x12 / 90x12
- 10x12 / 15x12 / 20x12
- 15x12 / 20x12 / 25x12
- 45x12 / 45x10 / 45x12
- 12ss45x12/ 12ss45x12/ 12ss45x12
8/21/18 Shoulders
Arnold press
- 40x12 / 45x10 / 50x8
- 15x12 / 15x12 / 15x12
- 20x10 / 20x10 / 20x10
- 70x12 / 70x12 / 70x12
- 160x20 / 160x15 / 160x10
- 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
8/20/18 Arms
Hammer curls
- 30x15 / 35x15 / 40x10
- 80x15 / 100x12 / 120x8
- 50x12 / 60x10 / 70x8
- 20x15 / 30x12 / 35x10
- 30x10 / 30x8 / 30x6
- 30x10 / 30x10 / 30x10
- 20x12 / 25x8 / 15x9
- 15x15 / 20x10 / 25x8
8/16/18 Back deload
Chin ups
- 7 / 8 / 7
- 90x10 / 90x10 / 90x
- 90x10 / 90x10 / 90x10
- 75x10 / 75x10 / 75x10
- 30x10 / 30x10 / 30x10
- 10 / 10 / 10
8/15/18 Chest deload
Dips
- 10 / 10 / 10
- 40x12 / 60x8 / 60x8
- 20x10 / 20x10 / 20x10
- 20x10 / 20x10 / 20x10
- 45x10 / 45x10 / 45x10
160x15 / 160x15 / 160x15
8/14/18 Quads
Squat
- 135x12 / 185x8 / 205x8 / 225x6
- 225x12 / 225x12 / 225x12
- 30x8 / 40x8 / 50x8
- 78x12 / 78x12 / 78x12
- 100x12 / 85x12 / 70x12
- 100x12 / 85x12 / 70x12
8/13/18 Shoulders
Smith shoulder press
- 95x12 / 115x10 / 135x8
- 20x12 / 25x10 / 30x8
- 20x12 / 25x10 / 30x8
- 10x15 / 15x15 / 20x12
- 80x12 / 90x10 / 100x6
- 200x12 / 200x12 / 200x12
- 45x12s12 / 45x12s12 / 45x12s12
8/11/18 Arms
Hammer curls
- 30x12 / 40x10 / 50x8
- 60x12 / 70x10 / 80x8
- 45 / 45 / 45
- 30x12 / 25x12 / 20x12
- 30x8 / 25x8 20x8
- 60x12 / 80x12 / 100x12
- 20x12 / 25x12 / 30x6
- 10x12 / 20x12 / 25x 8
- 10x20s12 / 10x20s12 / 10x20s12
- 12 / 12 / 12
8/10/18 Back
Lat pull down
- 90x15 / 180x12 / 270x8
- 70x12 / 80x10 / 90x6
- 90x10 / 75x10 / 75x10
- 25x12 / 50x12 / 75x8
- 40x12 / 50x10 / 60x6
- 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
- 12 / 12 / 12
8/9/18 Chest
Bench press N
- 135x8 / 135x8 / 135x8
- 50x8 / 40x10 / 30x12
- 20x12 / 25x10 / 30x8
- 10x12 / 15x10 / 20x6
- 100x12 / 130x10 / 160x8
8/8/18 Hamstrings
Straight leg deadlifts N
- 135x12 / 225x10 / 315x6
- 225x12 / 225x12 / 225x12
- 60x12 / 80x10 / 100x7
- 70x15 / 100x15 / 130x15
- 70x15 / 100x15 / 130x15
- 180x12 / 180x12 / 180x12
8/7/18 Shoulders
Military Press
- 65x12 / 95x10 / 115x6
- 95x12 / 115x7 / 135x2
- 25x12 / 30x10 / 35x8
- 30x8 / 30x8 / 30x8
- 90x15 / 90x15 / 90x15
8/6/8 Arms
Hammer curls
- 40x12 / 50x10 / 60x6
- 160x12 / 180x10 / 200x6
- 60x12 / 70x10 / 80x8
- 40x12 / 60x10 / 80x12
- 70x12 / 90x10 / 110x8
- 100x12 / 120x10 / 140x10
8/3/18 Back
Pull ups warmup
- 8 perfect reps
- 90x12 / 105x10 / 135x8
- 135x10 / 135x10 / 135x10
- 90x12 / 120x8 / 75x12
- 60x12 / 100x10 / 120x8
- 50x12 / 60x10 / 70x8
8/2/18 Chest
Dips
- 8 / 8 / 8
- 40x12 / 50x10 / 70x6
- 90x12 / 130x9 / 160x8
- 45x8 / 45x8 / 45x8
- 15x12 / 20x10 / 25x8
- 180x12 / 200x10 / 200x
- 10 / 10
7/31/18 Quads
Squats alternate close to regular TUT
- 135x8 / 135x8 / 135x8 / 135x8
- 135x12 / 135x12 / 135x12
- 30x8 / 30x8 / 30x8
- 50x12 / 50x12 / 50x12
7/29/18 shoulders (skinned knuckle, let it heal)
Shoulder press machine
- 90x15 / 140x 10 / 160x8
- 30x15 / 50x12 / 80x6
- 20x10 / 20x10 / 20x10
- 10x15 / 15x12/ 20x12
Shrugs TUT
- 30x12 / 40x10 / 50x8
- 12 / 12 / 12
7/26/18 Arms (stronger workout after meal)
Dumbbell curls
- 30x15 / 35x12 / 40x10
- 25x12 / 45x8 / 75x6
- 70x12 / 70x12 / 35x12
- 15x12 / 20x10 / 25x6
- 70x12 / 80x10 / 90x6
- 80x12 / 80x12 / 80x12
- 20x12 / 25x10 / 30x8
7/25/18 Back (good workout but felt weak)
Pulls overs
- 45x 15 / 45x15
- 113x12 / 136x10 / 156x8
- 100x12 / 130x10 / 160x8
- 90x12 / 120x9 / 135x6
- 90x10 / 105x8 / 120x8
- 35x12 / 45x10 / 55x8
- 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
- 12 / 12 / 12
7/24/18 Chest
Dip machine
- 90x20 / 180x15 / 270x8
- 90x12 / 140x8 / 155x7
- 45x10 / 45x10 / 45x10
- 25x10 / 20x12 / 17.5x14
- 20x10 / 40x8 / 60x6
- 20x8 / 15x12 / 10x14 / 20x7
7/23/18 AM blood test
7/22/18 Hamstrings
Leg curls
- 75x15 / 125x15 / 175x12 / 75x15N
- 225x10 / 135x15 / 135x15
- 180x12 / 180x12 / 180x12
- 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
- 225x12 / 345x4 / 285x4 / 135x8
7/21/18 Shoulders
Shoulder press machine
- 50x20 / 80x12 / 80x7 / 50x8
- 20x12 / 20x10 / 15x10
- 20x12 / 15x12 / 10x12
- 100x12 / 130x10 / 160x6
- 70x12 / 70x12 / 70x12
- 12 / 12 / 12
- 200x15 / 200x13
- 12 / 12
- 45x12
7/20/18 Arms
Barbell curls
- 45x15 / 65x12 / 75x8
- 25x15 / 30x12 / 35x10
- 65x15 / 95x8 / 65x10
- 100x15 / 130x12 / 160x12
- 35x15 / 85x8 / 85x8
- 35x15 / 45x12 / 55x10
7/19/18 back **felt weak, couldn’t sleep**
T bar row *rope*
- 25x20 / 75x15 / 74x15
- biceps are too weak to hold onto bar
- 50x8 / 50x8 / 50x8
- 50x20 / 75x15 / 105x8
- 55x15 / 85x12 / 115x8
7/18/18 Chest **insane pumps**
Dip press
- 90x20 / 180x15 / 270x6
- 135x11 / 135x8 / 135x9
- 50x8 / 40x8 / 30x8
- 15x15 / 20x12 / 25x10
- 20x10 / 25x8 / 30x6
- 200x15 / 200x15
- 15 / 15
7/17/18 Quads **great workout**
Squats
- 135x5 / 185x5 / 225x5 / 245x5
- 245x8 / 245x8 / 245x8
- 100x15 / 125x12 / 150x8
- 195x12 / 195x8 / 195x8
7/16/18 Shoulders
Arnold Press
- 30x12 / 40x10 / 50x8 / 60x4
- 30x12 / 30x8 / 30x8
- 30x8 / 30x8 / 30x8
- 20x8 / 20x8 / 20x8
- 80x8 / 80x8 / 80x8
- 15 / 15 / 15
- 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
7/13/18 Arms **great pump**
Dumbbell curls
- 20x12 / 30x10 / 40x8
- 100x12 / 140x10 / 180x8
- 45x12 / 75x10 / 95x3
- 60x12 / 80x10 / 100x3
- 30x12 / 35x10 / 40x6
- 30x12 / 35x8 / 40x4
7/12/18 Chest and Back
Bench press
- 135x8 / 185x4 / 185x2
- 135x8 / 165x6 / 195x3
- 40x8 / 50x8x / 60x6
- 95x10 / 145x8 / 195x3
- +90x10 / +180x8 / +230x8
- 135x8 / 165x8 / 195x6
7/11/18 Legs
Squats
- warmup 135x8
- 185x5 / 205x5 / 225x5
- 225x8 / 275x8 / 325x3
- 135x8 / 135x8 / 135x8
StillMind
Member
Didn’t have time yet for before pictures. Did my measurements last night and am happy with the progress, muscle memory has been good to me.
Chest 44.625 - 47”
Biceps 15.25” - 16”
Forearms 12.5” - 12.75”
Neck 16”. - 16.5”
Thighs 24” - 25”
Calves 15” - 15.5”
Waist. 35.7” - 32.75”
I’ll be changing my program next week to strength now that I blew up a little. Here’s today’s back day.
8/28/18 Back
Warm up wide grip pull ups (perfect)
Date 7/5/18 - 8/27/18Chest 44.625 - 47”
Biceps 15.25” - 16”
Forearms 12.5” - 12.75”
Neck 16”. - 16.5”
Thighs 24” - 25”
Calves 15” - 15.5”
Waist. 35.7” - 32.75”
I’ll be changing my program next week to strength now that I blew up a little. Here’s today’s back day.
8/28/18 Back
Warm up wide grip pull ups (perfect)
- 10
- 90x10 / 105x10 / 120x10
- 95x12 / 145x12 / 195x8
- 90x10 / 90x10 / 90x10
- 60x10 / 60x10 / 60x10
- 100x10 / 120x10 / 140x8
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StillMind
Member
Before
StillMind
Member
Day 3:
Injected leg feels like DOMS, virgin muscles are still getting use to the extra fluid but no pain to report.
Mood and energy are elevated, but could be placebo.
Only thing weird is I’ve been maintaining 3200 calories and this morning I dropped down to 191 from 194 yesterday.
Today’s lifts
8/29/18 Arms
Arnold curls TUT Sqz
Injected leg feels like DOMS, virgin muscles are still getting use to the extra fluid but no pain to report.
Mood and energy are elevated, but could be placebo.
Only thing weird is I’ve been maintaining 3200 calories and this morning I dropped down to 191 from 194 yesterday.
Today’s lifts
8/29/18 Arms
Arnold curls TUT Sqz
- 35x10 / 35x10 / 35x10
- 50x12 / 60x10 / 70x10
- 50x12 / 75x10 / 100x8
- 100x12 / 120x10 / 140x10
- 30x8 / 30x8 / 30x8
- 25x12 / 30x8 / 30x8
StillMind
Member
Today’s lifts
8/30/18 Shoulders
Military press
8/30/18 Shoulders
Military press
- 65x10 / 95x8 / 115x5
- 20x10 / 25x8 / 30x8
- 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
- 160x8 / 130x10 / 100x12
- 45x12ss12 / 45x12ss12
TestYourMight
New Member
Really excited to see how you feel in about 3 weeks from 500 mg. It will help me determine my dosage as I am preparing for my first cycle. This thread got me hyped!
StillMind
Member
Thanks man! Can’t wait til week three as well. Just finished my second injection. First one I did the middle head off my quad. Trying out the outer head this time to see if there’s any difference in soreness. Today’s also leg day, curious if that helps with any virgin muscle soreness.
Also did the Z track method this time with no bleeding vs last time doing a straight injection that bleed pretty good. I did bend the needle when I let go of the skin to help with a difficult plunger. I see why people say not to go with 27 gauge or higher. It’s a bitch to get the oil out the 25 already. It will most likely get easier with experience though. If you have low body fat, I’d recommend the 5/8 or inch needle. I feel like the inch and a half is unnecessary.
Headed to the gym, will be posting workouts shortly. Should be a good one, ate a fuck load of steak last night.
Also did the Z track method this time with no bleeding vs last time doing a straight injection that bleed pretty good. I did bend the needle when I let go of the skin to help with a difficult plunger. I see why people say not to go with 27 gauge or higher. It’s a bitch to get the oil out the 25 already. It will most likely get easier with experience though. If you have low body fat, I’d recommend the 5/8 or inch needle. I feel like the inch and a half is unnecessary.
Headed to the gym, will be posting workouts shortly. Should be a good one, ate a fuck load of steak last night.
StillMind
Member
Oh and I can’t tell with the Leuer Locker if I’m overdosing it a bit. The rubber part of the plunger has an odd shape. Every time I pull it to the 1ml line it looks good till I pull air in on top to change needles. Once the needle is changed and the oil is displaced correctly it seems I pulled a tad more. Any vets have tips or don’t worry about it?
FourOneDeuxFitt
Member
Your over thinking it bro. When I load up say I’m loading 1cc I’ll always just pull a bit past the 1cc mark. I know I’ll lose a little bit somewhere along the line of the injection. That’s about as accurate as it’s going to get. Don’t worry about it.
JackSmooth
Member
Excel makes nipple plungers. If you’re going for 1cc and get .9cc or 1.1cc it’s not going to make any difference. We’re talking about a very small difference in mg of gear.
StillMind
Member
Too analytical for my own good. Thanks guys.
Today’s weigh in was 193.5 @ 11.4%
The placebo has been strong, at least in the morning. Feeling good and have tons of energy till about 2 or 3, then crash. So far outer head has been feeling much better than middle after injection.
Today’s lifts.
I had little time and long rest periods.
8/31/18 Hamstrings
Straight leg deadlift
Today’s weigh in was 193.5 @ 11.4%
The placebo has been strong, at least in the morning. Feeling good and have tons of energy till about 2 or 3, then crash. So far outer head has been feeling much better than middle after injection.
Today’s lifts.
I had little time and long rest periods.
8/31/18 Hamstrings
Straight leg deadlift
- 135x12 / 225x12 / 325x6
- 225x10 / 225x10 / 225x10
- 133x12 / 167x10 / 214x8
Worf
Elite
@StillMind Ever try doing deadlifts with back? You Dont use conventional deadlifts for anything? You should be able to increase the volume a bit once the test kicks in. Good Program
StillMind
Member
I haven’t, I’ll probably go back to hitting both once the test kicks in. Back day is focused on my upper back. The way I deadlift, my lower back doesn’t need anything other than SLDL. And God have mercy on my legs if leg day ever falls on a weekend.
I haven’t been a fan of regular deadlifts since doing power lifting in high school and that was only because of the larger numbers I could put up.
I like doing straight leg only now for two reasons. One, being I’d rather use dead’s to focus on hamstrings and lower back. Two, I’d already be doing the same lower body movement with squats. Except squats I can go deeper and slower with the weight on my back. Ass to grass, baby!
