StillMind

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My diet is 3200-3800 on training days, 2800 in rest days.

Average training day

Breakfast 6 eggs cooked in olive oil with a cup of low sugar oatmeal.

Lunch and dinner are usually
12-16oz of chicken, steak or beef,
rice, sweet potatoes or veggie pasta,
with either vegetable medley, green beans or broccoli.

I’m down to occasional protein shakes when needed.

Then I do 8:16 fasts on my rest days to help with my recomp.

Now maintaining 12% on my handheld bf scanner, dipping into the high 11s. My weight fluctuates from 193-195 dehydrated and gaining size.
 

StillMind

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Haven’t updated in a bit.

Natural progress really picked back up. Last weigh in was 196 at 12% body fat Monday. Waist size is down from 35.6” to 32.75”. Came down with a nasty cold and have taken the last 5 days off from lifting, but ready to hit it strong tomorrow after lots of rest and healthy foods.

I did general measurements after my first month of cutting. Will be posting that next to my current numbers the day of my first injection with an up to date picture.

General health side

I’m wanting to start a journal reporting my progress with cycling and trt, as far as side effects and mental health.

Overall I’m pretty level headed and confident. I do notice the mood swings of impatience, angst, depression, and general apathy. Energy levels are low, enough to workout before work and sit at a desk all day. Libido is weird. I have the general desire but almost like there’s no hormone fueling it. The worst though is mental fog.

My goal is to improve these, even if slightly with a trt dose after a base cycle. Just waiting for a few more things before I start.
 

StillMind

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Alright Gents, the hairy fuck pulled through for me. Had to go through them since my original order a month ago still hasn’t arrived from pharmacomstore.

First injection will be after work with measurements. Weighed in at 194 @ 11.8% this morning.

Going to try and update like @FourOneDeuxFitt and @Morefyah. Keeping this thread with as much content as possible.

Any last minute tips, tricks or recommendations?

My focus will be on lean size but also getting my bench press up as that’s my weakest lift.
 

StillMind

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What’s your program look like at the gym?

Workouts are by body part. Chest, back, arms, shoulders and legs. Legs are rotated weekly between Hamstrings and quads now. I started writing it down about a month ago if you want to read my recent routines. Everything is focused on time under tension and pumping the muscles. But I do through in heavy lifting days depending on how my body is responding that day.
 

StillMind

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Why not quads and hams every week? Post em up

I can’t remember who it was, but saw someone on here doing it and gave it a try. Mostly doing it so I can hammer away at each big lift without taking away from the other. I was doing squats then SLDL. My deadlifts were strong but I was losing out doing my squats first. And doing dead’s before squats doesnt sound like fun without a spotter.

Routine


8/27/18 Chest (skipped legs to take it light after cold)


Chest press TUT
  • 90x12 / 140x12 / 190x10
Incline press TUT
  • 90x10 / 90x10 / 90x10
Incline dumbbell fly N
  • 20x8 / 20x8 / 20x8
Decline press TUT
  • 90x12 / 90x12 / 90x12
Cable cross press
  • 10x12 / 15x12 / 20x12
Decline cable fly
  • 15x12 / 20x12 / 25x12
Plate press
  • 45x12 / 45x10 / 45x12
Lying leg lifts SS plate side crunch
  • 12ss45x12/ 12ss45x12/ 12ss45x12


8/21/18 Shoulders


Arnold press
  • 40x12 / 45x10 / 50x8
Lateral raises
  • 15x12 / 15x12 / 15x12
Cable front raises
  • 20x10 / 20x10 / 20x10
Reverse peck deck
  • 70x12 / 70x12 / 70x12
Cable crunches
  • 160x20 / 160x15 / 160x10
Plate side crunch
  • 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12


8/20/18 Arms


Hammer curls
  • 30x15 / 35x15 / 40x10
Overhead cable extensions standing
  • 80x15 / 100x12 / 120x8
EZ curl bar
  • 50x12 / 60x10 / 70x8
Lying tricep extension
  • 20x15 / 30x12 / 35x10
Bent over concentration curls
  • 30x10 / 30x8 / 30x6
Dumbbell tricep extension
  • 30x10 / 30x10 / 30x10
Hercules curls
  • 20x12 / 25x8 / 15x9
Single cable pull down
  • 15x15 / 20x10 / 25x8

8/16/18 Back deload


Chin ups
  • 7 / 8 / 7
Cable rows squeeze
  • 90x10 / 90x10 / 90x
Behind the neck lay pull down
  • 90x10 / 90x10 / 90x10
Machine row
  • 75x10 / 75x10 / 75x10
Dumbbell pullover
  • 30x10 / 30x10 / 30x10
Abcoaster front and sides
  • 10 / 10 / 10

8/15/18 Chest deload


Dips
  • 10 / 10 / 10
Incline dumbbell press TUT
  • 40x12 / 60x8 / 60x8
Decline cable fly
  • 20x10 / 20x10 / 20x10
Dumbbell fly
  • 20x10 / 20x10 / 20x10
Plate press
  • 45x10 / 45x10 / 45x10
Cable crunch

160x15 / 160x15 / 160x15


8/14/18 Quads


Squat
  • 135x12 / 185x8 / 205x8 / 225x6
Barbbell calf raises SS 12sec hold
  • 225x12 / 225x12 / 225x12
Single leg press
  • 30x8 / 40x8 / 50x8
Leg extension
  • 78x12 / 78x12 / 78x12
Adductors
  • 100x12 / 85x12 / 70x12
Adductors
  • 100x12 / 85x12 / 70x12

8/13/18 Shoulders


Smith shoulder press
  • 95x12 / 115x10 / 135x8
Lateral raise
  • 20x12 / 25x10 / 30x8
Front raises
  • 20x12 / 25x10 / 30x8
Cable reverse flys
  • 10x15 / 15x15 / 20x12
Upright row
  • 80x12 / 90x10 / 100x6
Cable crunch
  • 200x12 / 200x12 / 200x12
Plate side crunch SS lying leg lifts
  • 45x12s12 / 45x12s12 / 45x12s12



8/11/18 Arms


Hammer curls
  • 30x12 / 40x10 / 50x8
Incline skull crushers
  • 60x12 / 70x10 / 80x8
21s
  • 45 / 45 / 45
Dumbbell overhead extension RTR
  • 30x12 / 25x12 / 20x12
Concentration curls
  • 30x8 / 25x8 20x8
Reverse grip cable push down
  • 60x12 / 80x12 / 100x12
Hercules curls
  • 20x12 / 25x12 / 30x6
Cable parallel extension
  • 10x12 / 20x12 / 25x 8
Decline Russian twist SS crunch
  • 10x20s12 / 10x20s12 / 10x20s12
Abcoaster front and sides
  • 12 / 12 / 12

8/10/18 Back


Lat pull down
  • 90x15 / 180x12 / 270x8
Dumbbell row
  • 70x12 / 80x10 / 90x6
Wide grip cable row
  • 90x10 / 75x10 / 75x10
Machine t bar
  • 25x12 / 50x12 / 75x8
Dumbbell pullover
  • 40x12 / 50x10 / 60x6
Plate oblique crunch
  • 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
Leg lifts
  • 12 / 12 / 12

8/9/18 Chest


Bench press N
  • 135x8 / 135x8 / 135x8
Incline dumbbell TUT
  • 50x8 / 40x10 / 30x12
Dumbbell fly
  • 20x12 / 25x10 / 30x8
Incline cable fly
  • 10x12 / 15x10 / 20x6
Pec deck
  • 100x12 / 130x10 / 160x8

8/8/18 Hamstrings


Straight leg deadlifts N
  • 135x12 / 225x10 / 315x6
Barbbell calf raises
  • 225x12 / 225x12 / 225x12
Hamstring curl
  • 60x12 / 80x10 / 100x7
Abductors
  • 70x15 / 100x15 / 130x15
Adductors
  • 70x15 / 100x15 / 130x15
Cable crunch
  • 180x12 / 180x12 / 180x12

8/7/18 Shoulders


Military Press
  • 65x12 / 95x10 / 115x6
Upright row
  • 95x12 / 115x7 / 135x2
Cable front raises
  • 25x12 / 30x10 / 35x8
Lateral raises
  • 30x8 / 30x8 / 30x8
Reverse pec deck fly
  • 90x15 / 90x15 / 90x15

8/6/8 Arms


Hammer curls
  • 40x12 / 50x10 / 60x6
Cable push downs
  • 160x12 / 180x10 / 200x6
Barbbell curl
  • 60x12 / 70x10 / 80x8
Cable pull down flex
  • 40x12 / 60x10 / 80x12
Preacher machine N
  • 70x12 / 90x10 / 110x8
Overhead cable extension
  • 100x12 / 120x10 / 140x10

8/3/18 Back


Pull ups warmup
  • 8 perfect reps
Lat pull down wide
  • 90x12 / 105x10 / 135x8
Bent over barbell rows
  • 135x10 / 135x10 / 135x10
Mid grip cable row TUT
  • 90x12 / 120x8 / 75x12
Cable lat pullover
  • 60x12 / 100x10 / 120x8
Machine lat row wide
  • 50x12 / 60x10 / 70x8

8/2/18 Chest


Dips
  • 8 / 8 / 8
Incline dumbbell press 120*
  • 40x12 / 50x10 / 70x6
Chest machine press
  • 90x12 / 130x9 / 160x8
Incline plate press
  • 45x8 / 45x8 / 45x8
Decline fly
  • 15x12 / 20x10 / 25x8
Cable crunch
  • 180x12 / 200x10 / 200x
Leg lifts
  • 10 / 10

7/31/18 Quads


Squats alternate close to regular TUT
  • 135x8 / 135x8 / 135x8 / 135x8
Barbbell calf raises
  • 135x12 / 135x12 / 135x12
Single leg press
  • 30x8 / 30x8 / 30x8
Leg extension
  • 50x12 / 50x12 / 50x12

7/29/18 shoulders (skinned knuckle, let it heal)


Shoulder press machine
  • 90x15 / 140x 10 / 160x8
Lateral raise machine
  • 30x15 / 50x12 / 80x6
Dumbbell front raises
  • 20x10 / 20x10 / 20x10
Cable rear delt extension
  • 10x15 / 15x12/ 20x12
Superset rotator cuff exercises

Shrugs TUT
  • 30x12 / 40x10 / 50x8
Abcoaster front and sides
  • 12 / 12 / 12

7/26/18 Arms (stronger workout after meal)


Dumbbell curls
  • 30x15 / 35x12 / 40x10
Preacher curls TUT
  • 25x12 / 45x8 / 75x6
Preacher machine N
  • 70x12 / 70x12 / 35x12
Hercules curls TUT
  • 15x12 / 20x10 / 25x6
Dumbbell skull crushers
  • 70x12 / 80x10 / 90x6
Tricep extension machine
  • 80x12 / 80x12 / 80x12
Dumbbell tricep extension
  • 20x12 / 25x10 / 30x8

7/25/18 Back (good workout but felt weak)


Pulls overs
  • 45x 15 / 45x15
Lat pull down wide grip
  • 113x12 / 136x10 / 156x8
Machine rows N
  • 100x12 / 130x10 / 160x8
Lat pull down mid grip (biceps got sore)
  • 90x12 / 120x9 / 135x6
Cable rows
  • 90x10 / 105x8 / 120x8
Dumbbell incline bench rows
  • 35x12 / 45x10 / 55x8
Side crunch
  • 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
Leg lifts
  • 12 / 12 / 12

7/24/18 Chest


Dip machine
  • 90x20 / 180x15 / 270x8
Chest press machine
  • 90x12 / 140x8 / 155x7
Incline plate press
  • 45x10 / 45x10 / 45x10
Dumbbell flys (run the rack negatives)
  • 25x10 / 20x12 / 17.5x14
Single arm cross over cable press
  • 20x10 / 40x8 / 60x6
Decline cable flys N
  • 20x8 / 15x12 / 10x14 / 20x7

7/23/18 AM blood test


7/22/18 Hamstrings


Leg curls
  • 75x15 / 125x15 / 175x12 / 75x15N
Superset calf machine
  • 225x10 / 135x15 / 135x15
Leg press
  • 180x12 / 180x12 / 180x12
Back extension
  • 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
Straight leg deadlifts
  • 225x12 / 345x4 / 285x4 / 135x8

7/21/18 Shoulders


Shoulder press machine
  • 50x20 / 80x12 / 80x7 / 50x8
Lateral raises
  • 20x12 / 20x10 / 15x10
Front raises
  • 20x12 / 15x12 / 10x12
Rear delt machine
  • 100x12 / 130x10 / 160x6
Shrugs
  • 70x12 / 70x12 / 70x12
Alternate band rear delt / lateral raise
  • 12 / 12 / 12
Cable crunch
  • 200x15 / 200x13
Leg raises
  • 12 / 12
Plate side crunch
  • 45x12

7/20/18 Arms


Barbell curls
  • 45x15 / 65x12 / 75x8
Dumbbell curls
  • 25x15 / 30x12 / 35x10
Machine preachers
  • 65x15 / 95x8 / 65x10
Overhead cable extension
  • 100x15 / 130x12 / 160x12
Skull crushers ez curl bar
  • 35x15 / 85x8 / 85x8
Overhead triceps extensions
  • 35x15 / 45x12 / 55x10

7/19/18 back **felt weak, couldn’t sleep**


T bar row *rope*
  • 25x20 / 75x15 / 74x15
Lat pull down, varying grips
  • biceps are too weak to hold onto bar
Single arm cable rows
  • 50x8 / 50x8 / 50x8
Behind the neck lat pull down
  • 50x20 / 75x15 / 105x8
Parallel lat pulls machine
  • 55x15 / 85x12 / 115x8


7/18/18 Chest **insane pumps**


Dip press
  • 90x20 / 180x15 / 270x6
Bench press
  • 135x11 / 135x8 / 135x9
Incline dumbbell press
  • 50x8 / 40x8 / 30x8
Decline cable flys
  • 15x15 / 20x12 / 25x10
Flat bench dumbbell flys
  • 20x10 / 25x8 / 30x6
Cable crunches
  • 200x15 / 200x15
Leg lifts
  • 15 / 15


7/17/18 Quads **great workout**


Squats
  • 135x5 / 185x5 / 225x5 / 245x5
Barbell calf raises
  • 245x8 / 245x8 / 245x8
Quad extensions
  • 100x15 / 125x12 / 150x8
Single leg press
  • 195x12 / 195x8 / 195x8

7/16/18 Shoulders


Arnold Press
  • 30x12 / 40x10 / 50x8 / 60x4
Front raises
  • 30x12 / 30x8 / 30x8
Lateral raises
  • 30x8 / 30x8 / 30x8
Incline delt raises
  • 20x8 / 20x8 / 20x8
Shrugs
  • 80x8 / 80x8 / 80x8
Lying leg raises
  • 15 / 15 / 15
Side crunches
  • 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12


7/13/18 Arms **great pump**


Dumbbell curls
  • 20x12 / 30x10 / 40x8
Overhead rope cable extensions
  • 100x12 / 140x10 / 180x8
EZ bar curls
  • 45x12 / 75x10 / 95x3
Skull-crushers
  • 60x12 / 80x10 / 100x3
Hammer curls incline bench
  • 30x12 / 35x10 / 40x6
Single arm dumbbell extension
  • 30x12 / 35x8 / 40x4

7/12/18 Chest and Back


Bench press
  • 135x8 / 185x4 / 185x2
Lat pull down
  • 135x8 / 165x6 / 195x3
Incline dumbbell close grip press
  • 40x8 / 50x8x / 60x6
Bent over rows wide over hand
  • 95x10 / 145x8 / 195x3
Machine decline press
  • +90x10 / +180x8 / +230x8
Close grip seated cable row
  • 135x8 / 165x8 / 195x6

7/11/18 Legs


Squats
  • warmup 135x8
  • 185x5 / 205x5 / 225x5
Straight leg deadlifts
  • 225x8 / 275x8 / 325x3
Barbell calf raises
  • 135x8 / 135x8 / 135x8
 

StillMind

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Didn’t have time yet for before pictures. Did my measurements last night and am happy with the progress, muscle memory has been good to me.
Date 7/5/18 - 8/27/18

Chest 44.625 - 47”
Biceps 15.25” - 16”
Forearms 12.5” - 12.75”
Neck 16”. - 16.5”
Thighs 24” - 25”
Calves 15” - 15.5”
Waist. 35.7” - 32.75”

I’ll be changing my program next week to strength now that I blew up a little. Here’s today’s back day.

8/28/18 Back


Warm up wide grip pull ups (perfect)
  • 10
Wide trip lat pull down TUT Sqz
  • 90x10 / 105x10 / 120x10
T bar row
  • 95x12 / 145x12 / 195x8
Behind the neck lat pulldowns TUT Sqz
  • 90x10 / 90x10 / 90x10
Wide grip cable row
  • 60x10 / 60x10 / 60x10
Cable pullover
  • 100x10 / 120x10 / 140x8
 
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StillMind

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Day 3:

Injected leg feels like DOMS, virgin muscles are still getting use to the extra fluid but no pain to report.

Mood and energy are elevated, but could be placebo.

Only thing weird is I’ve been maintaining 3200 calories and this morning I dropped down to 191 from 194 yesterday.

Today’s lifts

8/29/18 Arms


Arnold curls TUT Sqz
  • 35x10 / 35x10 / 35x10
Seated skullcrusher TUT Sqz
  • 50x12 / 60x10 / 70x10
Preacher machine N
  • 50x12 / 75x10 / 100x8
Under hand tricep pull down
  • 100x12 / 120x10 / 140x10
Bent over concentration curls
  • 30x8 / 30x8 / 30x8
Lying tricep extension
  • 25x12 / 30x8 / 30x8
 

StillMind

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Today’s lifts

8/30/18 Shoulders


Military press
  • 65x10 / 95x8 / 115x5
Lateral raises
  • 20x10 / 25x8 / 30x8
Upright row
  • 45x12 / 45x12 / 45x12
Reverse pec deck
  • 160x8 / 130x10 / 100x12
Side crunch SS leg lifts
  • 45x12ss12 / 45x12ss12
 

StillMind

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Thanks man! Can’t wait til week three as well. Just finished my second injection. First one I did the middle head off my quad. Trying out the outer head this time to see if there’s any difference in soreness. Today’s also leg day, curious if that helps with any virgin muscle soreness.

Also did the Z track method this time with no bleeding vs last time doing a straight injection that bleed pretty good. I did bend the needle when I let go of the skin to help with a difficult plunger. I see why people say not to go with 27 gauge or higher. It’s a bitch to get the oil out the 25 already. It will most likely get easier with experience though. If you have low body fat, I’d recommend the 5/8 or inch needle. I feel like the inch and a half is unnecessary.

Headed to the gym, will be posting workouts shortly. Should be a good one, ate a fuck load of steak last night.
 

StillMind

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Oh and I can’t tell with the Leuer Locker if I’m overdosing it a bit. The rubber part of the plunger has an odd shape. Every time I pull it to the 1ml line it looks good till I pull air in on top to change needles. Once the needle is changed and the oil is displaced correctly it seems I pulled a tad more. Any vets have tips or don’t worry about it?
 
Oh and I can’t tell with the Leuer Locker if I’m overdosing it a bit. The rubber part of the plunger has an odd shape. Every time I pull it to the 1ml line it looks good till I pull air in on top to change needles. Once the needle is changed and the oil is displaced correctly it seems I pulled a tad more. Any vets have tips or don’t worry about it?
Your over thinking it bro. When I load up say I’m loading 1cc I’ll always just pull a bit past the 1cc mark. I know I’ll lose a little bit somewhere along the line of the injection. That’s about as accurate as it’s going to get. Don’t worry about it.
 

JackSmooth

Member
Excel makes nipple plungers. If you’re going for 1cc and get .9cc or 1.1cc it’s not going to make any difference. We’re talking about a very small difference in mg of gear.
 

StillMind

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Too analytical for my own good. Thanks guys.

Today’s weigh in was 193.5 @ 11.4%

The placebo has been strong, at least in the morning. Feeling good and have tons of energy till about 2 or 3, then crash. So far outer head has been feeling much better than middle after injection.

Today’s lifts.

I had little time and long rest periods.

8/31/18 Hamstrings


Straight leg deadlift
  • 135x12 / 225x12 / 325x6
Barbbell calf raises
  • 225x10 / 225x10 / 225x10
Seated leg curls
  • 133x12 / 167x10 / 214x8
 

Worf

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@StillMind Ever try doing deadlifts with back? You Dont use conventional deadlifts for anything? You should be able to increase the volume a bit once the test kicks in. Good Program
 

StillMind

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@StillMind Ever try doing deadlifts with back? You Dont use conventional deadlifts for anything? You should be able to increase the volume a bit once the test kicks in. Good Program

I haven’t, I’ll probably go back to hitting both once the test kicks in. Back day is focused on my upper back. The way I deadlift, my lower back doesn’t need anything other than SLDL. And God have mercy on my legs if leg day ever falls on a weekend.

I haven’t been a fan of regular deadlifts since doing power lifting in high school and that was only because of the larger numbers I could put up.

I like doing straight leg only now for two reasons. One, being I’d rather use dead’s to focus on hamstrings and lower back. Two, I’d already be doing the same lower body movement with squats. Except squats I can go deeper and slower with the weight on my back. Ass to grass, baby!
 
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