For all those that are serving and have served

[gr8whitetrukker]

Do you use or have you used flying dragon? (1)

You may not be part of it but come on man. Look at the writing on the wall. There's an inner meso circle of higher ups. That's clear as day. (2)
CLEAR AS DAY

(1) No, never
(2) No, never has been.

Your wrong on all accounts

 

[Leancuisine]

Come truck. Calling LC a snitch is a bit of a stretch. I'm sure in his time at Batt he has seen war attrocities committed by teammates in retaliation to a buddy being killed. I'm sure he has been in 15-6 investigation and never mentioned a word about why they did what they did other than they were enemy combatants.

Something's in trukk' actions don't seem that of a combat 0311. I don't think he's ever mentioned his MOS but has bragged openly about killing hajis.

Not to drag him back into the shit, so I won't tag him, but look at how ryno reacted. He said vets should be able to post vet things.
Is @TRT a fuckin vet? Fuck no. He's a little groupie of the higher ups trying to get a foot in the door by wringing out sources.

Ryno is an 11b before a "mesonite" because he's been through the shit. Embraced the suck. Had the feeling of a true brotherhood.

@gr8whitetrukker seems to be a meso whore before anything. Guess he forgot about his time as a jarhead. Something only a maritime pog can do.
I know I can't forget my time in service. Good and bad, it's sticking with me for life.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

What does this inner circle do or get exactly? You keep talking about it like they're running this board... What are they running?

The world...apparantly? MESO?
Jibberish conspiracy theory by 2 idiots sinking in the same boat
Misery loves company

 

[TRT]

@Leancuisine

Nobody is as worked up as you are about any of this.

 

[Eman]

The world...apparantly? MESO?
Jibberish conspiracy theory by 2 idiots sinking in the same boat
Misery loves company

I keep hearing about this inner circle... It's usually by the ones that were exposed as a rep or a shill, coincidence I guess.

There are lots of private sources and none of them have anything to do with Franchise... The argument really makes no sense to me.

 

[Leancuisine]

The world...apparantly? MESO?
Jibberish conspiracy theory by 2 idiots sinking in the same boat
Misery loves company

Again, what boat am I sinking in? You think your bullshit, @Eman opinions, and @TRT biclering is going to affect business? Look at ANY source in the underground. There's 80% horseshit and arguing in the thread, 15% of people talking about sporting events, 3% people asking where there shit is, and 2% actual reviews. People will buy from sources until someone gets burned. That's how all sources go. Doesn't matter how many times panda fucks up people's orders, they are still around. Still making money.

There is a group of higher ups, the ones who have stuck around long enough (jays words), and apparently receive invitations to private labs. What else do you get? How many of you were affected by the disappearance of the WKM/awesome member cast system?
These are questions only YOU can answer.

My boat isn't sinking. I'm not dragging down other members with my last dying breath. I'm doing the same thing jay did. Exposing the horse shit. Instead I receive the title of snitch instead of meso hero, because I mentioned the wrong doings of one of your hierarchy.

Your accusations towards me can go however. I don't care. I've never done a single wrong thing in the history of my stay here at meso. Helped a lot of people. Gained some knowledge. Lately I've been seeing a lot of suspicious things that I have questioned and look. I'm a snitch. Because this Internet forum is such a ride or die group apparently. It's fine with me. Do what you want, just don't act all high and mighty when you're doing the same shit as pumping iron.

 

[franchise24]

You ar
Can you answer my question?

How in one pm Jay is saying flying dragon will contact you if you stick around long enough. Then there's a fall out with Jay calling him a scammer?

Was jay part of flying dragons operation?

And then calls PI22 a scammer after getting burned doing business with PI22?

I guess this question won't get answered.

Everyone seems to want to ignore the fact that at one point jay was a supporter. Then something happened later on and now PI22 is a scammer.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I keep hearing about this inner circle... It's usually by the ones that were exposed as a rep or a shill, coincidence I guess.

There are lots of private sources and none of them have anything to do with Franchise... The argument really makes no sense to me.

I was hoping some one would extend their inner circle hand shake to me. I been here about 3.5 yrs and nothing?!? Doesnt seem right? Maybe its that hard to crack and get in and jay and everybody else got in before me somehow? Doubtful, insane nonsense uttered by every dumbass who was EVER voted off the island.

 

[Leancuisine]

I keep hearing about this inner circle... It's usually by the ones that were exposed as a rep or a shill, coincidence I guess.

There are lots of private sources and none of them have anything to do with Franchise... The argument really makes no sense to me.

None of this has to do with franchise.

There's lots of everything out in the world. The point is, there's a group in meso that gets access to private labs when "you've stuck around long enough."
I get it. I understand that private labs should only be given out to trusted members, BUT how does a lab stay in business? Money. How do they get money? Customers. How do they get customers? It's pretty clear that @jaymaximus is one resource for attaining customers.

 

[Leancuisine]

I was hoping some one would extend their inner circle hand shake to me. I been here about 3.5 yrs and nothing?!? Doesnt seem right? Maybe its that hard to crack and get in and jay and everybody else got in before me somehow? Doubtful, insane nonsense uttered by every dumbass who was EVER voted off the island.

The thing is... when was I voted off the island? Before or after I mentioned this inner circle? I'm sure you were cool with me last week. Even 3 days ago. Until I mentioned something for you to get all bent out of shape.
I was never cool with TRT. He seemed like a cunt. Then he comes on here and proves he's worse than a cunt.
I'm sure most of you guys were cool with me until I got on this "slippery slope" as most of you have said. Why is that? You guys don't see it as supporting a friend. You see it is shilling a rep. Are other labs really that much of a threat to your flying dragon circle jerk?

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

First, i have said numerous times i have nothing to do with flying dragon. So sit your feminine ass down. Your an idiot
Secondly, the second you became a snitch is when you were voted off the island.
Your untrustworthy and a danger to members and sources alike. Is and has always been how it works here. You bought the ticket now your in for the ride.

The thing is... when was I voted off the island? Before or after I mentioned this inner circle? I'm sure you were cool with me last week. Even 3 days ago. Until I mentioned something for you to get all bent out of shape.
I was never cool with TRT. He seemed like a cunt. Then he comes on here and proves he's worse than a cunt.
I'm sure most of you guys were cool with me until I got on this "slippery slope" as most of you have said. Why is that? You guys don't see it as supporting a friend. You see it is shilling a rep. Are other labs really that much of a threat to your flying dragon circle jerk?

 

[Docd187123]

For whatever it's worth, it's pretty disappointing seeing some of the stuff that came to light in this thread.

As many reps and members that have been burned at the stake for this sort of thing, it's highly hypocritical that there's an invite only source floating around here for a select group of members.

I believe there's even a sticky made by CBS about this.

Meso is still the best bodybuilding/steroid forum on the Internet because of the uncensored posts (otherwise this thread would have been deleted by now).
But it was very naive to think that something like this wasn't going on behind the scenes.

The source being referred to in this thread does not float around here. He does not post here and wishes to avoid this forum. The only reason his name is known here is bc people that do have access to him happen to be members here. He doesn't PM ppl here nor are any sales made on this forum's PM system.

I understand where you're coming from but his name in this thread is not relevant in any way.

 

[franchise24]

I guess this question won't get answered.

Everyone seems to want to ignore the fact that at one point jay was a supporter. Then something happened later on and now PI22 is a scammer.

@gr8whitetrukker this question has been left unanswered.

Last time I ask. Hopefully you or @jaymaximus has an answer.

 

[Eman]

Everyone seems to want to ignore the fact that at one point jay was a supporter.

Who the fuck said he was a supporter?

LC asked about it and was given his answer.

In what way did he support FD? He told LC it was a private source that's invite only... Where is the support?

If I told you POTG is a private source and you need a referral, does that suddenly make me a supporter of them?

The point is, there's a group in meso that gets access to private labs when "you've stuck around long enough."

Usually you get a referral to a private lab from a friend. If you had asked me for a referral to POTG, I wouldn't have had a problem giving it to you because I thought you were solid. Does that somehow make me a rep or a shill? Nope.

I'll also add that I was in complete support of Millard removing the wkm system and I posted many times saying so. I benefited in no way from being an "awesome member".

 

[Leancuisine]

@Leancuisine

Nobody is as worked up as you are about any of this.

Why is that?
You came into a thread that was created out of respect for 5th group and you shit all over it with your wild witch hunt BS. You're not a vet. And you never answered my question about you being law enforcement. It's ok. You've avoided the question long enough for me to know the answer.

I'm not really worked up. I'm pretty calm. I just think it is stupid the hypocrisy that floats around members like @gr8whitetrukker and @jaymaximus

Running labs out of meso when they've been running business into flying dragons doorway. Trukk hasn't been caught, yet, but his support for jay is becoming more and more suspicious.

I'm not saying you are part of that. I don't think you are. I think you're just following the leader and reaming out sources because that's what you've seen others do on meso. The ones that have been here for 3.5 years, as trukk so proudly says. It's not directly your fault. Human nature. Monkey see monkey do. You are new to the board so you look up to the actions of the longer active members to see what's right and wrong. I did it too when I first joined. I spewed all their BS and their cookie cutter answers to advice.

Watch, 3 months from now I bet everyone is going to be spewing whatever @ChestRockwell writes up in his articles. Until he does something to piss off trukk or Eman or mands and gets the boot. It's nothing personal against you Chest (if you're even reading all this crap ) but it's just how meso is. It's a cesspool of juiced out old guys who force everyone into their close minded ideals or boot them out.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

@gr8whitetrukker this question has been left unanswered.

Last time I ask. Hopefully you or @jaymaximus has an answer.

Who the fuck said he was a supporter?

LC asked about it and was given his answer.

In what way did he support FD? He told LC it was a private source that's invite only... Where is the support?

I dont know how else to make it more clear to you. Ive said as much as Eman has said at least 3x now.
Theres is absolutely nothing that can be extrapolated from that pm than what is already there. As Eman has ALSO said at least 3x now.
That is clear to everyone not named franchise24 & leancuisine

 

[mands]

That's meso for ya. Rarely an informative thread anymore.

Like the one you brought mine and @ChestRockwell name into??? Pretty much worthless and uninformative.

You never responded to my post @Leancuisine. I posted I don't take money from any meso member for testing and I posted Chest's article you are so worried about.

Why are you bringing my name into this mess. I have never spoken ill will about any Military Vet and I certainly didn't chastise @franchise24 for posting this thread. You brought me into this. Not sure what's going on in your mind but you are having some major issues right now.

mands

 

[Leancuisine]

First, i have said numerous times i have nothing to do with flying dragon. So sit your feminine ass down. Your an idiot
Secondly, the second you became a snitch is when you were voted off the island.
Your untrustworthy and a danger to members and sources alike. Is and has always been how it works here. You bought the ticket now your in for the ride.

Yup just waiting for that ride to arrive. Where is it though? Being voted out of this board, even though such votes don't even exist, again just the say and pull of you, means absolutely nothing to me. Goodness. Being "kicked" off a board full of shills. I'm hurt.

Feminine? How am I feminine? Again, just you guys saying dumbshit to try to make me feel like less of a man. You're no better than me trukk. You're on the same grounds as pumping iron in my eyes. You know how I view pumping iron? I don't. I don't give a shit about him. Don't give a shit about you. Or your opinions. Or your thoughts of how I'm a snitch and am
Voted off the island. If there really was a vote, go on ahead and cast it and see what meso thinks should be done with me! There's more members here than you and your little clique. I can guarantee there's more members here who support me as opposed to your small group of friends who agree with your snitching policy, as relative and hypocritical it is. Unfortunately, as I've said multiple times, your an ass. You do have Pull here on meso, and I can guarantee you would vote more people off the island for simply supporting me. "He's a snitch. And if you like a snitch, you're a snitch too. You all like him because your boat is sinking too, and misery likes company." Sound familiar? Dick head.

It's not relevant as I'm leaving this forum. Was decided long before you decided to "cast your vote". Again, just waiting on Millard to hop online on respond to my PM.

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Running labs out of meso when they've been running business into flying dragons doorway. Trukk hasn't been caught, yet, but his support for jay is becoming more and more suspicious.

Your an idiot

 

[Eman]

Watch, 3 months from now I bet everyone is going to be spewing whatever @ChestRockwell writes up in his articles. Until he does something to piss off trukk or Eman or mands and gets the boot. It's nothing personal against you Chest (if you're even reading all this crap ) but it's just how meso is. It's a cesspool of juiced out old guys who force everyone into their close minded ideals or boot them out.

This is really getting exhausting.

Show me someone that's gotten "booted" out of meso that didn't deserve it. I don't "boot" anyone out of meso either, Millard does... I have no control over who gets banned nor do I have control over members that want to source/rep instead of be members.

This threads drama all started because franchise wouldn't stay in his source thread and people got pissed off about it. It's no different than any other source doing it...

What would you have really wanted to happen here? Everyone ignore Franchise from going from thread to thread acting like a member? I had pretty much gotten to the point where I was ignoring him... But you keep dragging me back into this with accusations of some inner circle.

The only inner circle I have here is a group of friends that I earned being a decent person. We never even talk about sources... We talk about hobbies, lifting and personal lives. That sound like some kind of malicious meso inner circle to you?