For all those that are serving and have served

But I know for a fact there are plenty of coaches that outline cycles and provide the cycles for the athlete.
Oh really? How would you know that? Have you hired a coach? Do you compete?

I coach and I certainly do not provide cycles for my athletes?

How do you come to this assumption?

mands
 
been here for a while now, never heard of any flying dragon gear until this thread.
i was even bros with pi22, never got my solicitation PM.
 
Watch, 3 months from now I bet everyone is going to be spewing whatever @ChestRockwell writes up in his articles. Until he does something to piss off trukk or Eman or mands and gets the boot. It's nothing personal against you Chest (if you're even reading all this crap :rolleyes:) but it's just how meso is. It's a cesspool of juiced out old guys who force everyone into their close minded ideals or boot them out.

It would be great if I could be left out of this discussion.

However, just for the record - I really hope this isn't the case. I enjoy providing information but still challenge the individual reading any of my posts/articles to dig deeper into topics I write about to determine if they reach the same conclusions that I do...
 
So the private source being talked about in this thread gave me permission to pass along the following message. And please, before any starts with the "doc, you are a shill or rep" stuff, don't. I don't rep or shill for anybody. I do know the source and I do communicate with him, mainly about homosexual topics and how many gerbils I plan on putting in his gaping anus



The source:

"And I have no idea who "Jay" is, I dont have reps, dont need any. There have been a few members who have asked if I would mind if they resold my items, again I cant control what people do with my products after they are shipped, its none of my business."

And

"Sure go ahead, very puzzled why a private lab is being spoken about on a forum where the lab doesnt even exist...."
 
Oh really? How would you know that? Have you hired a coach? Do you compete?

I coach and I certainly do not provide cycles for my athletes?

How do you come to this assumption?

mands
I don't compete as a body builder but yes I compete as a Powerlifter.

I know quite a few coaches that have do exactly what I mentioned. And two of them have quite a few IFBB pros they have produced.
 
I don't compete as a body builder but yes I compete as a Powerlifter.

I know quite a few coaches that have do exactly what I mentioned. And two of them have quite a few IFBB pros they have produced.
Well I know quite a few IFBB pros who coach and they DO NOT supply their clients with gear. The smart one's DO NOT.

mands
 
You're only info comes from this thread, which is full of a lot of bullshit, so I can understand why you don't have the full picture. There is nobody involved with that source here. Ppl who don't know what's going on are making wild accusations.

I did do some research before I posted what I did here. This lab name came up around here in a thread a couple years ago and everyone criticized the OP for posting about it then. There was also a claim in that thread that the source was run by a wkm at the time.

Maybe it's all b.s. I don't know. But I don't understand why everyone is so quick to protect and defend this source if they have no stake in this forum or any of it's members. It seems like anyone that dare even speak of it is chastised, yet it's discussed in pm like it's only reserved for the best of members.

My question is since when did we start offering that kind of protection to any source around here, private or not? Isn't uncensored transparency the main selling point of this forum?

Anyone else got Flying Dragon ?
 
Well I know quite a few IFBB pros who coach and they DO NOT supply their clients with gear. The smart one's DO NOT.

mands
That's an unfair blanket statement. I think the coaches I know are pretty smart and definitely doing a good job and getting paid pretty good. But that's your opinion.
 
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I did do some research before I posted what I did here. This lab name came up around here in a thread a couple years ago and everyone criticized the OP for posting about it then. There was also a claim in that thread that the source was run by a wkm at the time.

Maybe it's all b.s. I don't know. But I don't understand why everyone is so quick to protect and defend this source if they have no stake in this forum or any of it's members. It seems like anyone that dare even speak of it is chastised, yet it's discussed in pm like it's only reserved for the best of members.

My question is since when did we start offering that kind of protection to any source around here, private or not? Isn't uncensored transparency the main selling point of this forum?

Anyone else got Flying Dragon ?
I know nothing about this source but what do you mean by protection. If a private source is truly private, and does no business here, why speak of them on a google indexed board. I don't see it as protecting a source because they obviously are not a source. Just like the guy I deal with, they may not want to be heard of and are not trying to be the next rainbow unicorn. Maybe they have a few quite people they deal with and that's that! Why try to vet a source that's not available to you or an open board!
 
I did do some research before I posted what I did here. This lab name came up around here in a thread a couple years ago and everyone criticized the OP for posting about it then. There was also a claim in that thread that the source was run by a wkm at the time.

Maybe it's all b.s. I don't know. But I don't understand why everyone is so quick to protect and defend this source if they have no stake in this forum or any of it's members. It seems like anyone that dare even speak of it is chastised, yet it's discussed in pm like it's only reserved for the best of members.

My question is since when did we start offering that kind of protection to any source around here, private or not? Isn't uncensored transparency the main selling point of this forum?

Anyone else got Flying Dragon ?

Bc if a source wishes to remain private we do our best to accommodate that wish. If a source doesn't even have a presence on the forum and doesn't post on the forum, we shouldn't put them on blast unless they scam someone or become public. This lab is a relatively small lab that has no shills, no reps, no other aliases, and is not even on this forum. The source doesn't even have a website. If you buy your gear from Joe at your gym do you come here to talk about it in detail? No, bc joe doesn't have a presence here and this forum is not his sales platform.

The claim that the source is by a WKM is bullshit plain and simple.

This is an uncensored forum in the fact that Millard won't ban or prohibit you from talking negatively or positively about sources. That uncensored aspect does not necessarily give everyone free reign to talk about shit that's best left private. The forum is uncensored yet negativity is censored in member's logs. Private messages are in a way censored to not be posted publicly. There's a certain level of respect that should be given to a source when he has absolutely zero business done on this forum.
 
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I know nothing about this source but what do you mean by protection. If a private source is truly private, and does no business here, why speak of them on a google indexed board. I don't see it as protecting a source because they obviously are not a source. Just like the guy I deal with, they may not want to be heard of and are not trying to be the next rainbow unicorn. Maybe they have a few quite people they deal with and that's that! Why try to vet a source that's not available to you or an open board!
The truly private sources are the bees knees. They dont advertise and generally are pretty fuckin awesome. Keeps them out of the spotlight of LE and me away from wire transfers. Completely off the grid. CIM everytime. The problem is when they capitalize on the private source moniker and use public avenues to advertise. Then they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. Either your private or your not. They cannot run from scrutiny and call themselves private when problems arise.
 
Maybe I don't understand how it works then. It just seemed suspicious that even when it came to light that there might have been a source that was operating through pm on here, nobody was even remotely interested in looking into it. Because it didn't sound like they were from another board when you read the pm. Even though it may have been wrong to post a private message, it's been done before, and it still doesn't change what's in it.
 
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