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builttuff32
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Ohh my bad bro i skimmed thru it real quick without reading up on it, my fault.
Ok well idk where to get avodart at but the finastride i can get and rogaine too. Now this shampoo stuff, can u get it here in the states or have to get a net site and get some? If i use the shampoo and conditioner do i have to use the rogaine to or is it jus extra?
Ohh my bad bro i skimmed thru it real quick without reading up on it, my fault.
Ok well idk where to get avodart at but the finastride i can get and rogaine too. Now this shampoo stuff, can u get it here in the states or have to get a net site and get some? If i use the shampoo and conditioner do i have to use the rogaine to or is it jus extra?
Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
All that stuff can be ordered online. If you have a friend who owns a barber shop or beauty salon they get the NIOXIN like half price with their hair license.
Pharmacies in India can be pretty good, but Avodat and Propecia are very easy to order.
NIOXIN can be ordered online. I get the big bottles and they last me like 6 to 9 months. Kinda pricy, but for me worth it. Nizoral can be ordered online too. Just do a simple google search.
If you are not in the US then your local beauty supply stores may not carry NIOXIN products. You have to find the stores with the multiple shelves of hair product. Supercuts always carries it and they have the best deal on it too.
peace
-bj
All that stuff can be ordered online. If you have a friend who owns a barber shop or beauty salon they get the NIOXIN like half price with their hair license.
Pharmacies in India can be pretty good, but Avodat and Propecia are very easy to order.
NIOXIN can be ordered online. I get the big bottles and they last me like 6 to 9 months. Kinda pricy, but for me worth it. Nizoral can be ordered online too. Just do a simple google search.
If you are not in the US then your local beauty supply stores may not carry NIOXIN products. You have to find the stores with the multiple shelves of hair product. Supercuts always carries it and they have the best deal on it too.
peace
-bj
builttuff32
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Alrighty man, sounds good thanks for the info. I'm gonna shop around and get me some and let ya know when i start it and how it goes. thanks again
Alrighty man, sounds good thanks for the info. I'm gonna shop around and get me some and let ya know when i start it and how it goes. thanks again
quenca333
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
very good thread, but I have some doubts.
I really don't know if I am really predisposed to MPB, but fuck it, I am so gorgeous the way I look that I never want lose my hair
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I am thinking about running my first cycle in the future, while preserving all the hair I can, and that made me think.
a) I'd always seen recommendations and discussions about using or not fina/saw palmetto during a cycle, but I have read that fina takes like 6-12 mouths to start working. So my question is: If I want to save my hair, should I start taking this time before? Because I don't plan to use it on a daily basis while I am not really sure that my hair is falling out.
b) People who take fina should also take higher doses of Ais/SERMS during/after the cycle in order to avoid a gyno, right? I know that this may vary a lot, but is there any generic rule that we can apply for this?. lets say for test only cycle, if that helps..
very good thread, but I have some doubts.
I really don't know if I am really predisposed to MPB, but fuck it, I am so gorgeous the way I look that I never want lose my hair
. I am thinking about running my first cycle in the future, while preserving all the hair I can, and that made me think.
a) I'd always seen recommendations and discussions about using or not fina/saw palmetto during a cycle, but I have read that fina takes like 6-12 mouths to start working. So my question is: If I want to save my hair, should I start taking this time before? Because I don't plan to use it on a daily basis while I am not really sure that my hair is falling out.
b) People who take fina should also take higher doses of Ais/SERMS during/after the cycle in order to avoid a gyno, right? I know that this may vary a lot, but is there any generic rule that we can apply for this?. lets say for test only cycle, if that helps..
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Yes. The dust takes time to get working, but also continues to work after you stop taking it. Manufacturer of Avodart says 3 to 6 months for full effect. At a 0.5 mg ED dose you are not likely to experience any sides. I like not having swollen prostate on cycle too.
Propecia is also well tolerated. Both these medications are long term meds so you cant expect to grow yer hair back if you only use them during an 8 week cycle or the like. I used to watch scary amounts of hair go down the drain while on cycle and now that I have been on Avodart and Propecia for a couple years I have great results and cycles do not cause any noticeable hair loss.
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Liquidex can be run with fina, but Nolvadex will not do you any good if you see the onset of gyno (this is very rare, but it has happened). Clomid should be used after each and every cycle.
Yes you want to avoid gyno, and each steroid is different regarding gyno. You have to do your research because there is no set rule (we all react differently). PCT involves getting your natural test production up and running post cycle, along with gyno protection.
peace,
-billy
Yes. The dust takes time to get working, but also continues to work after you stop taking it. Manufacturer of Avodart says 3 to 6 months for full effect. At a 0.5 mg ED dose you are not likely to experience any sides. I like not having swollen prostate on cycle too.
Propecia is also well tolerated. Both these medications are long term meds so you cant expect to grow yer hair back if you only use them during an 8 week cycle or the like. I used to watch scary amounts of hair go down the drain while on cycle and now that I have been on Avodart and Propecia for a couple years I have great results and cycles do not cause any noticeable hair loss.
Source
Liquidex can be run with fina, but Nolvadex will not do you any good if you see the onset of gyno (this is very rare, but it has happened). Clomid should be used after each and every cycle.
Yes you want to avoid gyno, and each steroid is different regarding gyno. You have to do your research because there is no set rule (we all react differently). PCT involves getting your natural test production up and running post cycle, along with gyno protection.
peace,
-billy
quenca333
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
sorry. I meant I would use finasteride not finaplix (b question)
sorry. I meant I would use finasteride not finaplix (b question)
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DragonRider
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Finasteride and dutasteride can cause gyno as well as permanent sexual dysfunction. I wouldn't recommend either to my worst enemy.
Finasteride and dutasteride can cause gyno as well as permanent sexual dysfunction. I wouldn't recommend either to my worst enemy.
Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Everything causes sexual disfunction these days. I have sex 7 to 10 times a week on average with my gf. No sex sides and never have had anyone I know get gyno or have sex sides from Finasteride or dutasteride.
What you mean by gyno is that estrogen will rise when DHT is blocked and the estrogen can cause gyno...but if you get your Estradiol levels checked as you should when running AAS you can keep your levels low normal and avoid gyno. The same is true for AAS users who do not use a DHT blocker, so I don't understand your dislike of Finasteride and Dutasteride. With that logic you should hate Testosterone as well!
I believe that over 95% of Finasteride and Dutasteride users do not have adverse side effects.
As with all AAS you should keep AIs/SERMs on hand to handle sudden gyno symptoms.
peace,
-billy
Everything causes sexual disfunction these days. I have sex 7 to 10 times a week on average with my gf. No sex sides and never have had anyone I know get gyno or have sex sides from Finasteride or dutasteride.
What you mean by gyno is that estrogen will rise when DHT is blocked and the estrogen can cause gyno...but if you get your Estradiol levels checked as you should when running AAS you can keep your levels low normal and avoid gyno. The same is true for AAS users who do not use a DHT blocker, so I don't understand your dislike of Finasteride and Dutasteride. With that logic you should hate Testosterone as well!
I believe that over 95% of Finasteride and Dutasteride users do not have adverse side effects.
As with all AAS you should keep AIs/SERMs on hand to handle sudden gyno symptoms.
peace,
-billy
DragonRider
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
I'm a firm beleiver that Post Finasteride System (PFS) is brought about by androgen deficiency not elevated estrogen. So, in that respect my logic is not against testosterone or any thing that is pro androgenic. I am against anything that reduces androgens.
http://mypropeciasideeffects.com/my-propecia-side-effects-symptoms.html.
I understand there is a large percentage of males who experience no side effects, but for many men using 5ar reducers, the result is a type of chemical castration. The problem is, one doesn't know which way he will respond until he uses them.
My concern is to make sure we know all of the possibilities.
I'm a firm beleiver that Post Finasteride System (PFS) is brought about by androgen deficiency not elevated estrogen. So, in that respect my logic is not against testosterone or any thing that is pro androgenic. I am against anything that reduces androgens.
http://mypropeciasideeffects.com/my-propecia-side-effects-symptoms.html.
I understand there is a large percentage of males who experience no side effects, but for many men using 5ar reducers, the result is a type of chemical castration. The problem is, one doesn't know which way he will respond until he uses them.
My concern is to make sure we know all of the possibilities.
Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Yes there are indeed risks associated with these medications (and all medications). The way I see it I am pushing my DHT and Estrogen way way up on cycle and I like to keep those levels in the normal range. What we find is that there are sides from medications designed to avoid sides. Personal choice on all this stuff and it is important to know the risks.
I encourage and of you bros who have experienced Post-Finasteride Syndrome to respond to this thread so we can have some first hand information. According to the numbers I have presented below it is not likely that even 1 of the 16,000+ Meso members have experienced Post-Finasteride Syndrome.
Please note that a small percentage of the 2% who suffer side effects experience Post-Finasteride Syndrome. If 5% of men who experience sides experience Post-Finasteride Syndrome, then that would equate to 1 out of every 1,000 men who take Finasteride experience Post-Finasteride Syndrome. Millions of men take Finasteride.
From the Propecia website:
peace,
-billy
Yes there are indeed risks associated with these medications (and all medications). The way I see it I am pushing my DHT and Estrogen way way up on cycle and I like to keep those levels in the normal range. What we find is that there are sides from medications designed to avoid sides. Personal choice on all this stuff and it is important to know the risks.
I encourage and of you bros who have experienced Post-Finasteride Syndrome to respond to this thread so we can have some first hand information. According to the numbers I have presented below it is not likely that even 1 of the 16,000+ Meso members have experienced Post-Finasteride Syndrome.
Please note that a small percentage of the 2% who suffer side effects experience Post-Finasteride Syndrome. If 5% of men who experience sides experience Post-Finasteride Syndrome, then that would equate to 1 out of every 1,000 men who take Finasteride experience Post-Finasteride Syndrome. Millions of men take Finasteride.
From the Propecia website:
peace,
-billy
Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Curcuma Aeruginosa In The Treatment Of Male-Pattern Baldness
Curcuma aeruginosa Roxb., a member of the Zingiberaceae family, is an indigenous plant of Southeast Asia and the Indian subcontinent. Previous in vitro studies have shown that an extract of C. aeruginosa Roxb. exhibited superior inhibitory activities on testosterone conversion compared with extracts from other plants in the Zingiberaceae family. Animal studies also indicated that the C. aeruginosa hexane extract suppressed flank gland growth primarily by inhibiting 5a-reductase activity, in turn impairing the conversion of testosterone to DHT (unpublished data).
The present multicenter, double-blind, placebo controlled study was conducted to assess the efficacy and safety of 5% extract of C. aeruginosa, compared with 5% minoxidil solution, as well as the synergism of the two actives in promoting hair growths in men with AGA. Minoxidil is an established therapy for AGA in both men and women although the specific mechanism of action is unknown. It is arguably the most widely used medication for AGA, both as OTC and prescription agents.
In men with hair loss in the vertex area of the scalp, the combination of 5% hexane extract of C. aeruginosa and 5% minoxidil slowed hair loss and increased hair growth.
Pumthong G, Asawanonda P, Varothai S, et al. Curcuma aeruginosa, a novel botanically derived 5alpha-reductase inhibitor in the treatment of male-pattern baldness: a multicenter, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. J Dermatolog Treat. Curcuma aeruginosa, a novel botanically derived 5?... [J Dermatolog Treat. 2011] - PubMed result
Background: Several botanically derived agents are available for the treatment of male-pattern baldness.
Objective: The aim of this study was to evaluate the efficacy of 5% hexane extract of Curcuma aeruginosa, a botanically derived inhibitor of 5alpha-reductase and 5% minoxidil in the treatment of androgenetic alopecia.
Methods: Eighty-seven men with androgenetic alopecia (AGA) were randomized to receive 5% Curcuma aeruginosa, 5% minoxidil, combination formulation (5% hexane extract of Curcuma aeruginosa + 5% minoxidil) or placebo, twice daily for 6 months. Efficacy was assessed by target area hair count, global photographic review as well as patients' subjective assessments of hair regrowth and hair shedding.
Results: There were statistically significant improvements in global photographic review (p < 0.001), subjects' overall assessments of hair regrowth (p = 0.008), and hair shedding (p = 0.004) when the combination formulation was compared with placebo. Similarly, treatment with 5% minoxidil and 5% C. aeruginosa extract also led to some degrees of hair regrowth. There were no serious adverse events during and after the study.
Conclusion: In men with hair loss in the vertex area of the scalp, the combination of 5% hexane extract of C. aeruginosa and 5% minoxidil slowed hair loss and increased hair growth.
Curcuma Aeruginosa In The Treatment Of Male-Pattern Baldness
Curcuma aeruginosa Roxb., a member of the Zingiberaceae family, is an indigenous plant of Southeast Asia and the Indian subcontinent. Previous in vitro studies have shown that an extract of C. aeruginosa Roxb. exhibited superior inhibitory activities on testosterone conversion compared with extracts from other plants in the Zingiberaceae family. Animal studies also indicated that the C. aeruginosa hexane extract suppressed flank gland growth primarily by inhibiting 5a-reductase activity, in turn impairing the conversion of testosterone to DHT (unpublished data).
The present multicenter, double-blind, placebo controlled study was conducted to assess the efficacy and safety of 5% extract of C. aeruginosa, compared with 5% minoxidil solution, as well as the synergism of the two actives in promoting hair growths in men with AGA. Minoxidil is an established therapy for AGA in both men and women although the specific mechanism of action is unknown. It is arguably the most widely used medication for AGA, both as OTC and prescription agents.
In men with hair loss in the vertex area of the scalp, the combination of 5% hexane extract of C. aeruginosa and 5% minoxidil slowed hair loss and increased hair growth.
Pumthong G, Asawanonda P, Varothai S, et al. Curcuma aeruginosa, a novel botanically derived 5alpha-reductase inhibitor in the treatment of male-pattern baldness: a multicenter, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. J Dermatolog Treat. Curcuma aeruginosa, a novel botanically derived 5?... [J Dermatolog Treat. 2011] - PubMed result
Background: Several botanically derived agents are available for the treatment of male-pattern baldness.
Objective: The aim of this study was to evaluate the efficacy of 5% hexane extract of Curcuma aeruginosa, a botanically derived inhibitor of 5alpha-reductase and 5% minoxidil in the treatment of androgenetic alopecia.
Methods: Eighty-seven men with androgenetic alopecia (AGA) were randomized to receive 5% Curcuma aeruginosa, 5% minoxidil, combination formulation (5% hexane extract of Curcuma aeruginosa + 5% minoxidil) or placebo, twice daily for 6 months. Efficacy was assessed by target area hair count, global photographic review as well as patients' subjective assessments of hair regrowth and hair shedding.
Results: There were statistically significant improvements in global photographic review (p < 0.001), subjects' overall assessments of hair regrowth (p = 0.008), and hair shedding (p = 0.004) when the combination formulation was compared with placebo. Similarly, treatment with 5% minoxidil and 5% C. aeruginosa extract also led to some degrees of hair regrowth. There were no serious adverse events during and after the study.
Conclusion: In men with hair loss in the vertex area of the scalp, the combination of 5% hexane extract of C. aeruginosa and 5% minoxidil slowed hair loss and increased hair growth.
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
If Curcuma Aeruginosa is a 5ar inhibitor, would it have the same potential for causing Post-Finasteride Syndrome?
I also wonder what the results of the study would be if compared to a minoxidil only test group. I would think that the results would be better with Curcuma Aeruginosa + minoxidil subjects.
I do not see where you can purchase a Curcuma Aeruginosa solution, but it is nice to know that mother nature has its own version of Fin and Dut.
peace,
-billy
If Curcuma Aeruginosa is a 5ar inhibitor, would it have the same potential for causing Post-Finasteride Syndrome?
I also wonder what the results of the study would be if compared to a minoxidil only test group. I would think that the results would be better with Curcuma Aeruginosa + minoxidil subjects.
I do not see where you can purchase a Curcuma Aeruginosa solution, but it is nice to know that mother nature has its own version of Fin and Dut.
peace,
-billy
quenca333
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
good to know, Doc.
I also would like to know what do you think about the "Post-Finasteride Syndrome" and all this things we see around the Internet.
I will appreciate to read your thoughts after observing both theoretical and practical consequences of its uses.
Could 5ar inhibitors be so harmful as people say?
good to know, Doc.
I also would like to know what do you think about the "Post-Finasteride Syndrome" and all this things we see around the Internet.
I will appreciate to read your thoughts after observing both theoretical and practical consequences of its uses.
Could 5ar inhibitors be so harmful as people say?
Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
I ran across this website today, I don't know if people have seen it or not. Pretty basic info as I have researhed this for a long time.
He claims taking 2.5 mg/fin with keep hair loss to a minimum on 500mg/week of test, not sure I believe it as I have seem studies where .05 mg fin/day reduced dht almost the same as 5mg/day
Hair Loss From Steroids - Preventing and Controlling Hair Loss From Steroids
I ran across this website today, I don't know if people have seen it or not. Pretty basic info as I have researhed this for a long time.
He claims taking 2.5 mg/fin with keep hair loss to a minimum on 500mg/week of test, not sure I believe it as I have seem studies where .05 mg fin/day reduced dht almost the same as 5mg/day
Hair Loss From Steroids - Preventing and Controlling Hair Loss From Steroids
CEDeoudes59
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Hey bro! That's actually my website... I haven't posted since 2005, but I found that the site was mentioned here from my web analytic page. So let's see if I can give you some info here.
That recommendation of 1.25mg per 250mg of testosterone was simply based on my personal experience. I'm very sensitive to male pattern baldness and I seemed to need that amount. I believe it was because finasteride became less and less effective over the past decade.
I've had 2 hair transplants, so that's why I have a pretty decent head of hair in the video. I'm actually working on the website now and planning to put up [pre-surgery] pictures, so show some guys the results.
You are correct that .5mg of finasteride can reduce DHT significantly, 1mg can reduce it up to 60%, according to Merck.
In my experience, finasteride became less and less effective effective. I had to increase the dose. That's obviously not because of some sort of 'tolerance' to the med, but rather a great sensitivity to DHT as I got older. A lot of my friends (who don't use steroids) have experienced the same thing.
Perhaps that explains why the older most people get, the greater amount of hair loss they experience... it's certainly not because DHT levels increase. It's likely a greater sensitivity to DHT.
As you definitely know, everyone is different, different sensitivity to androgens and different hair loss patterns. I'm actually a quite extreme example of male-pattern baldness (seriously about a 9 out of 10). Hair loss started naturally at 19!
There's also some information that I read from Dr. Alvi Armani that claimed that anabolics could "activate" the male pattern baldness gene, and hair loss can continue indefinitely. I'm not sure how I feel about that, Dr. Armani is a world class hair restoration physician but uses extreme aggressive (unethical, by a opinion of a few) marketing practices. He's outspoken against the extreme "dangers" of steroids.
All I know is, I'd be a Norwood 7 (totally bald) if I didn't use certain meds and products to get it under control.
The info on the site thus far is pretty basic, as you said, but it's more to give the guys that are just starting to battle MPB and MPB from androgens some info.
If you have any questions, fire away! :tiphat
Hey bro! That's actually my website... I haven't posted since 2005, but I found that the site was mentioned here from my web analytic page. So let's see if I can give you some info here.
That recommendation of 1.25mg per 250mg of testosterone was simply based on my personal experience. I'm very sensitive to male pattern baldness and I seemed to need that amount. I believe it was because finasteride became less and less effective over the past decade.
I've had 2 hair transplants, so that's why I have a pretty decent head of hair in the video. I'm actually working on the website now and planning to put up [pre-surgery] pictures, so show some guys the results.
You are correct that .5mg of finasteride can reduce DHT significantly, 1mg can reduce it up to 60%, according to Merck.
In my experience, finasteride became less and less effective effective. I had to increase the dose. That's obviously not because of some sort of 'tolerance' to the med, but rather a great sensitivity to DHT as I got older. A lot of my friends (who don't use steroids) have experienced the same thing.
Perhaps that explains why the older most people get, the greater amount of hair loss they experience... it's certainly not because DHT levels increase. It's likely a greater sensitivity to DHT.
As you definitely know, everyone is different, different sensitivity to androgens and different hair loss patterns. I'm actually a quite extreme example of male-pattern baldness (seriously about a 9 out of 10). Hair loss started naturally at 19!
There's also some information that I read from Dr. Alvi Armani that claimed that anabolics could "activate" the male pattern baldness gene, and hair loss can continue indefinitely. I'm not sure how I feel about that, Dr. Armani is a world class hair restoration physician but uses extreme aggressive (unethical, by a opinion of a few) marketing practices. He's outspoken against the extreme "dangers" of steroids.
All I know is, I'd be a Norwood 7 (totally bald) if I didn't use certain meds and products to get it under control.
The info on the site thus far is pretty basic, as you said, but it's more to give the guys that are just starting to battle MPB and MPB from androgens some info.
If you have any questions, fire away! :tiphat
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CEDeoudes59
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
In my opinion...
This is tough to say. If you figure that a lot of males naturally get erectile dysfunction as they get older, certainly finasteride wouldn't help since DHT plays a large role in libido and maintaining an erection.
But are males suffering from erectile dysfunction or low testosterone levels genetically prone to this? or did the finasteride cause this?
I don't believe this potential side effect from finasteride is permanent however. Physician supervised HRT would likely solve any libido or lower testosterone issues. Dr. John Crisler is very outspoken about the dangers of finasteride, certainly he would know, but so long as you maintain normal testosterone levels - the libido should take of itself.
In my opinion...
This is tough to say. If you figure that a lot of males naturally get erectile dysfunction as they get older, certainly finasteride wouldn't help since DHT plays a large role in libido and maintaining an erection.
But are males suffering from erectile dysfunction or low testosterone levels genetically prone to this? or did the finasteride cause this?
I don't believe this potential side effect from finasteride is permanent however. Physician supervised HRT would likely solve any libido or lower testosterone issues. Dr. John Crisler is very outspoken about the dangers of finasteride, certainly he would know, but so long as you maintain normal testosterone levels - the libido should take of itself.
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Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Using trenbolone and deca causes problems even in the presence of testosterone (or so I hear). Messing with finasteride is not worth it IMO since it just slows the inevitable loss. If you truly care about physical fitness/bodybuilding, you will not touch it. DHT helps you.
Using trenbolone and deca causes problems even in the presence of testosterone (or so I hear). Messing with finasteride is not worth it IMO since it just slows the inevitable loss. If you truly care about physical fitness/bodybuilding, you will not touch it. DHT helps you.
Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
Armani is a world class liar that was exposed on the Hair Loss Network for many things, he has ruined many lives with his NW 1 mega transplants on 20 year olds in which half the grafts never grew and even if they did he went through 60% of the persons donor hair planting a hairline so low you would never have enough grafts to keep it filled in if your baldness continued.
I must be more sensitive than you to MPB as I can't take 100 mg of Test a week without losing hair and I'm on 1.25mg/fin, Rogaine Foam ( it works AWESOME and I have regrowth from hairline to crown) at 2 bottles a month and Nizoral 2 %
I was going to ask about the 15% minox you reccomend and ask if you thouight it was better than foam but from what you have said you may have never used foam before you made the website as I don't think i came out until 2008. Foam was NIGHT AND DAY compared to 5% liquid Minox for me
Armani is a world class liar that was exposed on the Hair Loss Network for many things, he has ruined many lives with his NW 1 mega transplants on 20 year olds in which half the grafts never grew and even if they did he went through 60% of the persons donor hair planting a hairline so low you would never have enough grafts to keep it filled in if your baldness continued.
I must be more sensitive than you to MPB as I can't take 100 mg of Test a week without losing hair and I'm on 1.25mg/fin, Rogaine Foam ( it works AWESOME and I have regrowth from hairline to crown) at 2 bottles a month and Nizoral 2 %
I was going to ask about the 15% minox you reccomend and ask if you thouight it was better than foam but from what you have said you may have never used foam before you made the website as I don't think i came out until 2008. Foam was NIGHT AND DAY compared to 5% liquid Minox for me
Re: The big 4 (now 5) for preventing hair loss.
foam does a better job of dispersing over the scalp IMO. that may be why it worked better for you. not only that but it can cling to and slide down the hair into the follicle, increasing effectiveness.
I have noticed that with the liquid dropper I cant really seem to get it all over scalp (my hair is still thick) so I have to use more. when I use more I notice that I can get red, sore spots....so I am limited to how much i can use. the 15% solution may cause a bit if irritation for some people. tough to say if more effective without a legit study to prove it.
peace,
-billy
foam does a better job of dispersing over the scalp IMO. that may be why it worked better for you. not only that but it can cling to and slide down the hair into the follicle, increasing effectiveness.
I have noticed that with the liquid dropper I cant really seem to get it all over scalp (my hair is still thick) so I have to use more. when I use more I notice that I can get red, sore spots....so I am limited to how much i can use. the 15% solution may cause a bit if irritation for some people. tough to say if more effective without a legit study to prove it.
peace,
-billy
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