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If I was yall I'd just drop this thread, trash any of hercs gear and get some legit stuff. Yalls could be okay but it's real obvious mine made in june wasn't. And i highly doubt he started making it better after that because he felt bad about fuckin everybody over.. Just my two cents but my bloods proved to me damn straight that his stuff is underdosed at best.
 
@smiles: you don't have to take a break because of the low doses it was like you were on a cruise and when you start your new cycle its a blast. Hope this helps
 
Well, if he got Test Cyp at the same concentration and it wasn't underdosed that wouldn't be so terrible. Well, if he told him it wouldn't. I preferred Test E myself, but I wouldn't gripe if my guy told me he only had Test C. Again, if he told me.
I'm thinking from the start everything on herc's menu was test anyway. When guys pm'd me asking about herc and when they ask me about any of the brand new sources that pop up I tell them to stick to the basics when ordering and stay away from the exotics and expensive things because in all likelihood they're getting test.

If I was yall I'd just drop this thread, trash any of hercs gear and get some legit stuff. Yalls could be okay but it's real obvious mine made in june wasn't. And i highly doubt he started making it better after that because he felt bad about fuckin everybody over.. Just my two cents but my bloods proved to me damn straight that his stuff is underdosed at best.

I'm thinking it made no difference if herc's plan was to overdose on everything because his powder source was garbage. Takes none of the onus off herc but that's what I bet happened.
 
I'm thinking from the start everything on herc's menu was test anyway. When guys pm'd me asking about herc and when they ask me about any of the brand new sources that pop up I tell them to stick to the basics when ordering and stay away from the exotics and expensive things because in all likelihood they're getting test.



I'm thinking it made no difference if herc's plan was to overdose on everything because his powder source was garbage. Takes none of the onus off herc but that's what I bet happened.

I had that's feeling after hearing him outsource just to fill orders... On thing struck me when he asked me how things are going few weeks into my cycle at the time I thought wow that's really cool, but there is a part of me after all this came out wondering if it was because to see if I knew a difference in not sure, I could be thinking to much into it, it could of just been cause it was my first cycle and I did have no amirdex like I wanted, but he didn't have it in... Idk I never second guessed it till now...
 
@smiles: you don't have to take a break because of the low doses it was like you were on a cruise and when you start your new cycle its a blast. Hope this helps

Okay cool I thought so, I also say a vid with this bodybuilder that was talking about cycles... He talked about breaks are good, but they are really up to the person to decide how long they want for a break, but for sure take a break so your receptors to get used to being off them, just like stacking instead of running one type for over 4-6 weeks so your receptors don't get used to what your running....
 
Well, if he got Test Cyp at the same concentration and it wasn't underdosed that wouldn't be so terrible. Well, if he told him it wouldn't. I preferred Test E myself, but I wouldn't gripe if my guy told me he only had Test C. Again, if he told me.

I know and I agree. But if he did that without telling anyone, why would he for any other of his products. Like Ben said, everything was probably Test to begin with. I know it's not an exact tell sign but if you look at his website everything looks exactly the same. I thought about this when the whole Tren color thread came up. I know tren can be different colors but it is usually not the exact same color as Test.
 
@Smiles
Hey bro if your having trouble finding adex I'm fairly sure that chem meso deal at the bottom of the page sells it. It's research chems. "Research" lol
 
@Smiles
Hey bro if your having trouble finding adex I'm fairly sure that chem meso deal at the bottom of the page sells it. It's research chems. "Research" lol

Lol I seem those, but I was waiting for herc to get it in that's why I didn't have it... Lol I did think about getting it from there, but I wanted to give herc all my business as a way to show thanks, before everything happened I had a lot of respect cause the way he was , chill as hell... Lol good looking out though bro!!!
 
Ostensibly since the answers to my relatively straightforward questions went nowhere, never mind.
 
"Twice that" really what is that estimate based on since the most important question has yet to be answered .

HOW LONG (hours or days) AFTER his LAST injection was blood drawn FOR ANALYSIS.

It doesn't matter what ester it is. All esters peak around 48 hours post-inject, when speaking of a single injection.

This is probably a dumb question, but would BW taken 48 hours after a single injection provide a reasonably accurate measure of the potency of that one injection? Not shooting for more than knowing if it’s complete bunk. That alone would have limited Herc’s income by a huge margin.
 
Hey guys, Herc sent me an email about an order I had made. It is suppose to be here this week sometime so we will see. He said they are biologic vials that the labels were taken off of. Is there any way of telling if its good or just get rid of it?
 
Hey guys, Herc sent me an email about an order I had made. It is suppose to be here this week sometime so we will see. He said they are biologic vials that the labels were taken off of. Is there any way of telling if its good or just get rid of it?

Inject it and you will find out, but that is up to you... I do not believe there is a way to tell if it is legit or not...
 
Is there any way of telling if its good or just get rid of it?

Show it to me. Before you take the flip top caps off.

How many vials did he send you? And if it is in our vials the only thing it could be is PROP.

I don't know how so many guys are supposedly getting the PROP we sent him. We only sent him 100MLs
 
I for sure got 20ml of it. How can you tell with the flip top still on? I've only shot 1ml of the stuff he sent me then switched back to the legit BL prop.
 
I for sure got 20ml of it. How can you tell with the flip top still on? I've only shot 1ml of the stuff he sent me then switched back to the legit BL prop.

Well, I would want to see both. With the flip top and without. I just mentioned for him to leave the top on at first, so I could see both.

It would be hard for him to put the same lids on. I'm pretty sure the stuff you received from him was good 2 go. I looked at the pics of it. That's our stuff. He would need to be very meticulous to alter those Prop's without showing any signs of it.

Everyone wants to bash Hercules, I believe he got fucked, and without intending to, he passed the "fucking" right down the line.

Hercules didn't intentionally rob any of you IMO. And I doubt he tampered with the 10 vials of prop that we sent him. That's just my opinion though.
 
Well, I would want to see both. With the flip top and without. I just mentioned for him to leave the top on at first, so I could see both.

It would be hard for him to put the same lids on. I'm pretty sure the stuff you received from him was good 2 go. I looked at the pics of it. That's our stuff. He would need to be very meticulous to alter those Prop's without showing any signs of it.

Everyone wants to bash Hercules, I believe he got fucked, and without intending to, he passed the "fucking" right down the line.

Hercules didn't intentionally rob any of you IMO. And I doubt he tampered with the 10 vials of prop that we sent him. That's just my opinion though.

Hey Stretch, these new sources are just like many of the noobs that are here. They have no connects. If someone starts selling blow he had better know if his connect is giving him baking soda or coke.
If he's selling drywall as crack he's gonna have the feigns running up his back side. Sure, it's his connect fucking him, but he's ultimately responsible.
Also, if you go into business you've got to have enough capital to cover each vial sold. Herc doesn't so he's done. He'll show up again with another name and the same shit sources for raws and only the money he brings in for said shit gear.
Smart money says if Bio ran into a big issue that they could replace every fucked up vial.
That's just another example of how it's not as simple as it appears, being a source.
 
Hey Stretch, these new sources are just like many of the noobs that are here. They have no connects. If someone starts selling blow he had better know if his connect is giving him baking soda or coke.
If he's selling drywall as crack he's gonna have the feigns running up his back side. Sure, it's his connect fucking him, but he's ultimately responsible.
Also, if you go into business you've got to have enough capital to cover each vial sold. Herc doesn't so he's done. He'll show up again with another name and the same shit sources for raws and only the money he brings in for said shit gear.
Smart money says if Bio ran into a big issue that they could replace every fucked up vial.
That's just another example of how it's not as simple as it appears, being a source.

True story.

I definitely feel that Hercules is responsible for everyone he sold the gear to. I just don't think he ever intended to sell them the shit gear in the first place. If he was TRYING to be cheap, he would have outsourced from someone else, for less money, he was trying to get the best, most reliable gear he could IMO. And he was paying extra for it.

The only way I'm wrong about this, and I've thought about it, is if he was much smarter than I give him credit for. If he is, he could have planned this far ahead, he could have diluted the biologic gear, and only purchased from biologic because he KNEW he was going to fuck everyone, and he wanted to be able to deny that he was a piece of shit, by claiming he attempted to outsource from a reliable vendor like Biologic.

Those are the only 2 options I see.

In either case, the end result is, Hercules owes the members here a lot of money.

From reports, it seems he is still sending out gear to people he accepted money from? Someone said they are getting a few vials through Hercules, which are supposedly Biologic vials, so we will see when the pics get posted what the deal is on those.

If those who are saying Hercules is a piece of shit are correct, then why is he still sending out vials which he got from Biologic under the Hercules name? Why not keep those vials, and sell them locally? Or keep them for his next online UGL venture? What could he possibly gain from sending out any more vials under the Hercules name if he plans on reappearing under a new name?

These are questions that aren't answered yet, and I'm not going to call the man a total failure, and a thief, until it's proven.

NOW...I wouldn't be sending him any money either, so let's get that straight, but I'm not ready to say he knew what he was doing the whole time. I seen a few reports early on that never got published, but until recently, everyone seemed happy with his gear, so how do we know that he ever knew about the bad powder/under dosing until just recently?

Everyone wants to talk about how horrible it is that a scam happened on Meso. This "scam" wasn't shit compared to what happens on other boards. On other boards, paid off vets would have been protecting the shit out Hercules allowing him to run for another few months, THAT'S a scam. This wasn't shit.
 
Yeah, he's still attempting to "make right" even after the meso stuff exploded. I think he knows the name is dead in the water, but he just sent me a tracking code for a shipment. T cyp, so not BL (which I've already switched to). Will probably go to trash can unless pigs fly or members start reporting that he changed raws and made right.

I still like the theory of him being extremely cunning and planning the BL stunt in months in advance. What's the old Keyser Soze quote? :cool:
 
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Everyone wants to talk about how horrible it is that a scam happened on Meso. This "scam" wasn't shit compared to what happens on other boards. On other boards, paid off vets would have been protecting the shit out Hercules allowing him to run for another few months, THAT'S a scam. This wasn't shit.

People got scammed and lost their money. That's all that matters. Do you think they give a shit who else got scammed?

Why are you trying to minimize and make excuses by posting conjecture regarding Herc's motivations?
 
True story.

I definitely feel that Hercules is responsible for everyone he sold the gear to. I just don't think he ever intended to sell them the shit gear in the first place. If he was TRYING to be cheap, he would have outsourced from someone else, for less money, he was trying to get the best, most reliable gear he could IMO. And he was paying extra for it.

The only way I'm wrong about this, and I've thought about it, is if he was much smarter than I give him credit for. If he is, he could have planned this far ahead, he could have diluted the biologic gear, and only purchased from biologic because he KNEW he was going to fuck everyone, and he wanted to be able to deny that he was a piece of shit, by claiming he attempted to outsource from a reliable vendor like Biologic.

Those are the only 2 options I see.

In either case, the end result is, Hercules owes the members here a lot of money.

From reports, it seems he is still sending out gear to people he accepted money from? Someone said they are getting a few vials through Hercules, which are supposedly Biologic vials, so we will see when the pics get posted what the deal is on those.

If those who are saying Hercules is a piece of shit are correct, then why is he still sending out vials which he got from Biologic under the Hercules name? Why not keep those vials, and sell them locally? Or keep them for his next online UGL venture? What could he possibly gain from sending out any more vials under the Hercules name if he plans on reappearing under a new name?

These are questions that aren't answered yet, and I'm not going to call the man a total failure, and a thief, until it's proven.

NOW...I wouldn't be sending him any money either, so let's get that straight, but I'm not ready to say he knew what he was doing the whole time. I seen a few reports early on that never got published, but until recently, everyone seemed happy with his gear, so how do we know that he ever knew about the bad powder/under dosing until just recently?

Everyone wants to talk about how horrible it is that a scam happened on Meso. This "scam" wasn't shit compared to what happens on other boards. On other boards, paid off vets would have been protecting the shit out Hercules allowing him to run for another few months, THAT'S a scam. This wasn't shit.

It did seem like for awhile he truly was trying to make thing right then everything exploded and he just left. Whether not this was his intention from the start of the problem...I don't know.

Yeah, he's still attempting to "make right" even after the meso stuff exploded. I think he knows the name is dead in the water, but he just sent me a tracking code for a shipment. T cyp, so not BL (which I've already switched to). Will probably go to trash can unless pigs fly or members start reporting that he changed raws and made right.

I still like the theory of him being extremely cunning and planning the BL stunt in months in advance. What's the old Keyser Soze quote? :cool:

As for you and Hvb. Why are you two the only ones receiving emails from herc. What both of you are saying doesn't make any sense!

Why of all the people would he choose two low post count noobs to stay in contact with? Why not a more well established member that has a little more pull or better yet the ENTIRE board.

It doesn't add up.
 
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