Hgh length?

[Type-IIx]

I haven't changed the brands yet and have been running it from the same batch.


I am now experiencing some Brian fog and lethargy. It has been going on over the past few days which fo kind of like up with stopping t4 2 weeks ago. I have considered dropping the hgh dose by 25% but am still on the fence.

I am just assuming it may be something I need to put up with for a little.

Yeah, thyroid hormones are activating/stimulating. If you've given it 2 weeks, that seems like enough time for everything to adapt.

 

[Rido]

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[Alphalfa]

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Seems like yout thyroid is completely fine, you completely recovered, and will probably improve.

I would have liked to see Total T3 without any exogenous T4, to check if it is true than all people on exogenous T4 have a poorer conversion like almost all studies claim(without rHGH use), comparing when you were on rHGH with T4 and now on rHGH without exogenous T4.

 

[Type-IIx]

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Looks good. T4 is unnecessary. Very minor trend increase in total T3. Now you're not suppressing TSH, things are functioning normally.

 

[Rido]

Looks good. T4 is unnecessary. Very minor trend increase in total T3. Now you're not suppressing TSH, things are functioning normally.

I am surprised how fast the tsh recovered

 

[jJjburton]

Exogenous T4 is not necessary with rhGH unless one has pre-existing central hypothyroidism (rhGH can reveal central hypothyroidism, but not cause it). The decrement in serum T4 (within physiological ranges) is due to increased peripheral conversion of T4 to T3 (responsible for some but not all of rhGH's increase to RMR).

So being i am already on synthroid before using and trt or hgh, i am starting hgh in 5 days, should i increase my t4?

 

[Rido]

So this is my anectodal experience on this. I have been experiencing more fatigue after stopping the t4. No other meds were changed recently... I am getting ready to start my next blast this coming week

 

[Type-IIx]

So being i am already on synthroid before using and trt or hgh, i am starting hgh in 5 days, should i increase my t4?

Nah. Don't change your Rxs around rhGH. Just note that depending on the underlying pathology causing hypothyroidism you may see a diminished growth response vs. euthyroid adults. This, if I recall, was really seen more during the second year of GH therapy than the first year, though.

 

[Rido]

To close the loop. Fatigue still fully subsided btw.

 

[OldGHGuy]

Getting back to the original question: I run low dose GH at 2iu for 6 months then break for a month using Ipa/CJC and then back to GH. On blast I bump to 4iu (twice per year)

 

[Burly]

Getting back to the original question: I run low dose GH at 2iu for 6 months then break for a month using Ipa/CJC and then back to GH. On blast I bump to 4iu (twice per year)

Why not 3iu all year round ?

 

[OldGHGuy]

On dose: I get very good results on 2 iu for the long term so I dont see a need to go any higher on my cruises. On duration: most data suggests 2-3 day max snap-back of natural GH production to normal levels. However, just for good measure, I like to use Ipa/CJC as noted to kick my natural production back in for an extended period. I'm in it for the very long term and without data that shows very long term use doesnt inhibit natural production, I am playing it safe. Plus I see no downside from this approach body comp-wise.

 

[Burly]

On dose: I get very good results on 2 iu for the long term so I dont see a need to go any higher on my cruises. On duration: most data suggests 2-3 day max snap-back of natural GH production to normal levels. However, just for good measure, I like to use Ipa/CJC as noted to kick my natural production back in for an extended period. I'm in it for the very long term and without data that shows very long term use doesnt inhibit natural production, I am playing it safe. Plus I see no downside from this approach body comp-wise.

Iḿ older than you and use 3.6iu ED and 200mg Test and 150mg Primo EW.
No blast. my blood levels stay correct. I don´t see why i should do a blast.

 

[OldGHGuy]

Then dont do one. What's your point?

BTW - your cruise is actually very close to what I blast. So you are essentially on-cycle year 'round. I wouldnt recommend that.

 

[hghlover]

I have been super happy with 4 iu daily. No sides except for a little tiredness sometimes.

 

[Burly]

Light cycle, XL HRT, i don't call that a Blast I want to maintain my mass, and do twice a year complete check-up

Then dont do one. What's your point?

BTW - your cruise is actually very close to what I blast. So you are essentially on-cycle year 'round. I wouldnt recommend that.

 

[OldGHGuy]

Its all relative. If it works for you it works for you