how to make transdermal testosterone?

[AlexSpb]

I have already dispelled this myth : esters WILL make it through the skin with DMSO or cream.

A compounded test prop cream from the pharmacy makes my friend's testosterone levels twice higher at the 24h mark than with test base cream at the same concentration from the same pharmacy.

Esters don't make it past the skin layers when applied transdermally.

Test base is the only viable option.

You got me lost in this logic. So which one is it, ester penetrates or not?

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I think after reading this whole thread I'm more interested in the recipe that you've been talked about earlier using ethanol and myristate. I've always been fascinated and scared of dmso, even thinking about it carrying in stuff that's in tap water. I like the idea of making a transdermal with test, dht or dhea, and nandrolone base if I could find any.

You'll need to add some benzyl alcohol to the mix if you want DHT to dissolve at concentrations above 50mg/ml.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

No because of ester attached , it will not penetrate the skin.

You seem to have it figured out, why do you care what I think ?

 

[FrostHammer]

You'll need to add some benzyl alcohol to the mix if you want DHT to dissolve at concentrations above 50mg/ml.

Yup. My DHT 100mg/ml and Test B 150 mg/ml crystallize over night. I have to set
them on the glass top stove for a few minutes off and on to get them to redissolve.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Yup. My DHT 100mg/ml and Test B 150 mg/ml crystallize over night. I have to set
them on the glass top stove for a few minutes off and on to get them to redissolve.

Test base doesn't crystalize in pure ethanol until 160mg/ml.

 

[Chris6]

Has anyone tried the Salvo vehicle with either DHT or test base?

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Has anyone tried the Salvo vehicle with either DHT or test base?

Yes.
It works, dissolves well up to 4 grams per vial, but very greasy because of the benzyl alcohol and the oily esters.

 

[tesarpaul]

@Goingstronger Whats the max solution for DHEA with ethanol and IPM?

I having trouble to dissolve it at 100 mg/ml but maybe I got some fake shit.

 

[FuckinNoob]

When you guys say ‘test base’ in this context you mean testosterone with no ester, is that correct? As you can tell by my name and post count I’m still new to this

 

[Deleted member 59947]

@Goingstronger Whats the max solution for DHEA with ethanol and IPM?

I having trouble to dissolve it at 100 mg/ml but maybe I got some fake shit.

I pushed it with no issue to 200mg/ml.

Either your ethanol or your DHEA are fake.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

When you guys say ‘test base’ in this context you mean testosterone with no ester, is that correct? As you can tell by my name and post count I’m still new to this

Yes

 

[FuckinNoob]

So you can literally just throw TNE into DMSO at 72mg/ml, put .5ml on your sack twice a day, and voila, you’re on a “500mg and shut the fuck up” cycle?

Is the absorption really that good? Seems like this would be more popular if it’s as easy as it sounds.

 

[FrostHammer]

Test base doesn't crystalize in pure ethanol until 160mg/ml.

This was my first mixture:
4.5g testosterone base

25ml pure 96% Everclear

3ml isopropyl myristate

 

[Deleted member 59947]

So you can literally just throw TNE into DMSO at 72mg/ml, put .5ml on your sack twice a day, and voila, you’re on a “500mg and shut the fuck up” cycle?

Not exactly.

My experiment showed that 12h after 75mg my levels are at 2400 ng/dl.
That's my trough.

Usually people on 500mg/week pharma test are closer to 3500ng/dl at trough.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

Seems like this would be more popular if it’s as easy as it sounds.

You mean people injecting oils in their muscles because it has been a perpetuated "knowledge" for decades and that people are too lazy to think outside the box ?

That wouldn't be the first time people blindly followed dogma, would it ?

 

[FuckinNoob]

My experiment showed that 12h after 75mg my levels are at 2400 ng/dl.
That's my trough.

Usually people on 500mg/week pharma test are closer to 3500ng/dl at trough.

That makes sense. Have you tested T levels at a 3x per day application (every 8hrs)? I would think that would lead to higher and more stable levels, although probably too annoying to actually stick to that regiment.

You mean people injecting oils in their muscles because it has been a perpetuated "knowledge" for decades and that people are too lazy to think outside the box ?

That wouldn't be the first time people blindly followed dogma, would it ?

I think the way I phrased that made me sound like I was calling BS. Just meant I’m surprised I’ve never heard of this method of application. I’m interested in trying this for myself, sounds very promising.

 

[Chris6]

@Goingstronger Whats the max solution for DHEA with ethanol and IPM?

I having trouble to dissolve it at 100 mg/ml but maybe I got some fake shit.

I got DHEA to dissolve at 100mg/ml in eth + IPM. It does work as I applied 1ML to my delts an hour prior to training and much bigger pump, vascularity, drying out effect and mood noticed. I used a lot more IPM than needed though basically did 5ML eth and 3ML IMP. I may also add a few drops of DMI to further increase penetration in this mixture.

In the past, I could not get this mixture to dissolve DHT however I was using the same ratio and grams as test base so I could have been using too much DHT powder so it didn't absorb into the mixture.

 

[tesarpaul]

I got DHEA to dissolve at 100mg/ml in eth + IPM. It does work as I applied 1ML to my delts an hour prior to training and much bigger pump, vascularity, drying out effect and mood noticed. I used a lot more IPM than needed though basically did 5ML eth and 3ML IMP. I may also add a few drops of DMI to further increase penetration in this mixture.

In the past, I could not get this mixture to dissolve DHT however I was using the same ratio and grams as test base so I could have been using too much DHT powder so it didn't absorb into the mixture.

For DHT you are able to get about 50mg/ml with this formula. I tried it on Sunday it dissooved perfectly.

 

[tesarpaul]

Not exactly.

My experiment showed that 12h after 75mg my levels are at 2400 ng/dl.
That's my trough.

Usually people on 500mg/week pharma test are closer to 3500ng/dl at trough.

How much test base do you apply these days? Im usually doing 1ml (150mg) in morning And then later in the day.

But dont know if Im not overdosing.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

How much test base do you apply these days? Im usually doing 1ml (150mg) in morning And then later in the day.

But dont know if Im not overdosing.

Winter is very dry where I live so I put the transdermals on the side for now and doing around 1 gram T base powder orally per day + 500mg DHEA powder orally per day, both split in 4 doses.

Works well too.