I really like Modafinil - even at low doses

Damn, i really underestimated the half life of it. Since it is so subtle and didn't cause any hunger supression for me, i was sure i could sleep normally, but i was awake until 7 am, even with an extra dose of GH.

I was also a bit more agitated than usual in the evening. But i'm also on tren, so could be both. Next time will start with 100 mg and see how that goes.
 
Damn, i really underestimated the half life of it. Since it is so subtle and didn't cause any hunger supression for me, i was sure i could sleep normally, but i was awake until 7 am, even with an extra dose of GH.

I was also a bit more agitated than usual in the evening. But i'm also on tren, so could be both. Next time will start with 100 mg and see how that goes.

Tren is notorious for causing sleep problems.
 
Tren is notorious for causing sleep problems.

True, but i can sleep relatively normal on it. Maybe because of gh, telmisartan and nebivolol. I think 200 mg modafinil is just too much of an addon to it, so i will just go lower on my next try.
 
True, but i can sleep relatively normal on it. Maybe because of gh, telmisartan and nebivolol. I think 200 mg modafinil is just too much of an addon to it, so i will just go lower on my next try.

Understandable. 100mg tabs of Moda are out there for a reason.

Try to stick with it if you can, I really believe the best effects are from cumulative use over time, but make it the very first thing you do in the morning. Like by your bedside first thing.
 
Damn, i really underestimated the half life of it. Since it is so subtle and didn't cause any hunger supression for me, i was sure i could sleep normally, but i was awake until 7 am, even with an extra dose of GH.

I was also a bit more agitated than usual in the evening. But i'm also on tren, so could be both. Next time will start with 100 mg and see how that goes.
Yeah this I my worry as well. I can't be messing with my sleep (anymore than tren already does) Some say it's subtle then others report what you did where they're up all night
 
Yeah this I my worry as well. I can't be messing with my sleep (anymore than tren already does) Some say it's subtle then others report what you did where they're up all night

Take it early enough and there won't be any impact on your sleep. I don't think anyone claims they keep feeling the effect from moda 12 hours later. Totally, the complaints are it wears off too quickly, 6 hours or less for some. Though 8 or so is typical.

Personally, I don't ever find it affects sleep, I can take a nap if I choose to while the effects are at their peak,
 
I was wondering if it was worth trying as a addy. Replacement. Back to semax I suppose. Ty
Im giving it a shot again this time using it for a longer duration before was only a few days. it definitely helps with cognition but dont get a big boost of energy

Does semax help with adhd?
 
What’s your thoughts on the modvigil brand? I have some in the mailbox today to try out.

I have never seen a labtest reveal any brand of Moda to be "underdosed", despite the huge variation people report experiencing from brand to brand.

It all comes down to bioavailability, which is very low with raw modafinil.

Onset time, peak strength, duration, are all determined by how the tablet is formulated and manufactured. Worst case scenario 50% of the active ingredient is never even absorbed. As a side note, the FDA recently put out a memo that compounding pharmacies, which make custom formulations of medicines for various purposes, should not attempt to make modafinil products because proper bioavailability requires so much expertise
to ensure.

The more "serious" the pharma company is, the more resources they have to do it "right" the better the Moda.

Sun Pharma is part of a multi-billion dollar generic pharma group. Sun's Modalert is at the top of the heap for reliability and overall strength (except for sublingual Moda).

Modvigil is made by HAB Pharma, also a serious generic manufacturer. It's got different properties which I'd say is perhaps 80% of Modalert peak strength and slightly shorter duration. HAB also makes the best Armodafinil tabs, Artvigil. You can't go wrong with HAB. As everyone charges really high prices for small quantities of Modalert now Modvigil blows it away in value for the money. The expensive aluminum on aluminum blister pack they use is actually top notch for preservation and typically reserved for very expensive meds. HAB has a second formulation called Modawake, which comes on faster, is stronger than Modvigil at the peak, but has an even shorter duration. Presumably the tab is made to dissolve faster. You can see the difference between it and Modvigil. Finally Modvigil MD is their hard to find flavored sublingual rapid onset tab that comes on very quickly, is strong. and wears off rapidly. Don't confuse it with the less effective Modafin MD by Intas pharma.
 
I was wondering if it was worth trying as a addy. Replacement. Back to semax I suppose. Ty
Do you notice a strong difference with focus on semax? I have some in my fridge but never took it long enough to notice much (and was in prep so i don’t think anything would’ve helped me focus).
 
I started taking armodafinil about a week ago and worked my way up dosages. I would do 2 days at 50mg, 2 at 75 etc. The last couple days I’ve been on 125mg and I am kind of bummed. I really dont feel any difference at all. I’m specifically taking Artivigil. Maybe it will all click and be “magical” at 150+ but so far as @Ghoul mentioned, she’s a gentle mistress. A little too gentle in my opinion.
 
I started taking armodafinil about a week ago and worked my way up dosages. I would do 2 days at 50mg, 2 at 75 etc. The last couple days I’ve been on 125mg and I am kind of bummed. I really dont feel any difference at all. I’m specifically taking Artivigil. Maybe it will all click and be “magical” at 150+ but so far as @Ghoul mentioned, she’s a gentle mistress. A little too gentle in my opinion.

150 is the starting dose for adults, and goes to 200, then 250 from there. Unsurprising you're not feeling much tbh.

Which armodafinil are you using?
 
150 is the starting dose for adults, and goes to 200, then 250 from there. Unsurprising you're not feeling much tbh.

Which armodafinil are you using?
I’m using artvigil 50. Sometime this week ill try both 150 & 200 total mgs to see what it does. I have modvigil 200 on the way as well. Any experience with stacking them?
 
I’m using artvigil 50. Sometime this week ill try both 150 & 200 total mgs to see what it does. I have modvigil 200 on the way as well. Any experience with stacking them?

Yes, my usual workday dose is 150 Armodafinil and 200 Moda taken at the same time. Though combining them is not typically prescribed, it's still within the normal 200-400mg Modafinil daily dose in the guidelines. I would not recommend using that much without slowly increasing the dose first to gauge your reaction.

Artvigil 50 is very good. I prefer 3 of those to an Artvigil 150. Tempted to see what a Jano test of each would show. Might be a different formulation, as the 50s have a 3 year expiration date while 150s are 2 years.
 
Yes, my usual workday dose is 150 Armodafinil and 200 Moda taken at the same time. Though combining them is not typically prescribed, it's still within the normal 200-400mg Modafinil daily dose in the guidelines. I would not recommend using that much without slowly increasing the dose first to gauge your reaction.

Artvigil 50 is very good. I prefer 3 of those to an Artvigil 150. Tempted to see what a Jano test of each would show. Might be a different formulation, as the 50s have a 3 year expiration date while 150s are 2 years.
Thanks for the insight here. I’ll likely work my way up to 150 Armodafinil, stay there for a few days make sure nothing odd happens and then slowing add in some moda. I’m really looking for the creative aspects that these can produce to shine. Do you have a moda brand preference or experience (modvigil vs modalert, etc)?
 
Thanks for the insight here. I’ll likely work my way up to 150 Armodafinil, stay there for a few days make sure nothing odd happens and then slowing add in some moda. I’m really looking for the creative aspects that these can produce to shine. Do you have a moda brand preference or experience (modvigil vs modalert, etc)?

Modalert is the most reliable, no surprise given it's made by a huge pharma company.

Modvigil by HAB is a close second and really excellent value. 80% or so of the strength and slightly shorter duration.

Modvigil MD 200, a sublingual formulation, is the strongest, very rapid onset, and shortest duration. Do not confuse with Modafin MD by Intas. which is inferior.
 
I loved Mod. Used to get it prescribed and my insurance covered it, however insurance plan change and it was no longer covered. The price from the pharmacy was fucking ridiculous, Since then I haven't been able to find a source with reasonable prices. If anyone knows of one I would be greatly appreciative . not sure if anyone has seen the movie limitless, but the I have read a few articles a while back that claimed Mod was supposed to be considered the " limitless drug." I guess the real benefits come after having taken the medication for a while. Not sure how true that is. Thought it was interesting.
 
I loved Mod. Used to get it prescribed and my insurance covered it, however insurance plan change and it was no longer covered. The price from the pharmacy was fucking ridiculous, Since then I haven't been able to find a source with reasonable prices. If anyone knows of one I would be greatly appreciative . not sure if anyone has seen the movie limitless, but the I have read a few articles a while back that claimed Mod was supposed to be considered the " limitless drug." I guess the real benefits come after having taken the medication for a while. Not sure how true that is. Thought it was interesting.

When I tried to fill my prescription years ago insurance declined and they wanted $900 for 30 pills!

If it's a US prescription, GoodRX gets the price down to $25 for 30, or $55 for 90, without insurance. This is useful because insurance refuses to cover it for anything "off label" like ADHD or depression. There are places online that will offer a prescription.

India pharma can go as low as 20¢ for Modalert if you buy 10 boxes, 1000 tabs.

Roughly same for Artvigil 150.

The "specialist" Moda vendors are all ripoffs at $1-3 a pill, often for low end brands, who are just drop shipping from the same pharmacies you can go to direct.

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