You are Welcome.Thanks for your support Keriheat.
Well said. I don't care for conflict either (unless there's a good reason for it). I agree that what works for us at one point in time, may not work for us at another point in time. Our health, diet, evironment and physical condition never remain static, so we can't expect a certain protocol to always remain effective. Last year I had to change my fiber supplement from Psyllium to Acacia. I also eliminated Gluten form my diet. The only liquid I drink is water. To say I am health conscious is an under-statement. I'm so high maintenance, that at times I can't stand living with myself. For quite a while now I have been able to use natural supplements to keep my health in what I consider a good state of health. However as age creeps up on me (52 on the 17th of this month) and my digestive, physical and hormaonal systems age feel I have to look at phamacutial aids. I wish I didn't. It's inconvenient at best. No one likes to take shots on a regulat basis, but I hope the trade-offs will be worth it. Oh well, onward we go on this journey called life. I'll keep you guys updated on my little experiment. Just did my 200 iu of HCG this morning. Another 200 iu of HCG, SuperMic and B-comlex shots tomorrow. Second shot of 1/2cc (50 mg) Test on the next day (Sunday). Wouldn't it be great if I got this dialed in on the first attempt? Keep the advice coming.
Best of Luck rmarganti but I believe this journey may require constant tweaking.
The one thing I would add to this discussions is this. We should always try to be patient. What I mean is, dont be too quick to change...you know 'knee jerk' reaction. Let's say are sex life is great and we feel strong and all of a sudden that feeling starts to dial down. We shouldn't just all of a sudden change are protocol. It could be just a body adjustment or a diet change or a body change due to stress. If we change our dosage or add or subtract another element, we may have just killed our sweet spot. Had we waited (patience) the cycle would possibly have just passed by it self.
That is not to say we dont need adjustments, just dont be so eager to do so. IMO
I am due for more labs May 2nd. Should I wait until then to consider adding an AI? Or should I add something now? I am considering Liquidex or Liquid Tamox from ar-r dot com. Anyone have experience with these companies or their products? If so, are thes oral products and what would a good starting dose be? Looking fo a little advice guys
my treatment has been going well so far. No complications with any injections yet. I've taken the advice of members of tthe forumn and now take my test cyp 2 x weekly .25cc(50mg) on sundays and thursdays. I take my hcg, b-complex, and mic on the days i don't take the test (mon, tues, wed, fri, sat).
i lowered my dose of hcg to 150 iu this week due to having a very slight soreness in my right pec under the nipple. I can't really feel anything there when i examine it, but i'm worried about possible gyno.
I am using dim 200mg 2 x daily and 15 mg zinc/1 mg copper 2 x daily for estrogen control which worked fine when i was on hcg monotherapy of 250 iu daily. all three of my labs over a 3 month period of time while on hcg monotherapy had my e2 at 20 or 21.
Could the test be raising my e2? I am going to add another 50 mg of zinc daily to see if it helps.
I am due for more labs may 2nd. Should i wait until then to consider adding an ai? Or should i add something now? I am considering liquidex or liquid tamox from ar-r dot com. Anyone have experience with these companies or their products? If so, are thes oral products and what would a good starting dose be? Looking fo a little advice guys
Thanks for the information doc. I have finally got my TRT dialed in (for now). I currently inject .1 cc (20 mg) of Test cyponate (200 mg per cc) every other day subQ. I inject .25 cc (250 mg) of HCG subQ every other day (on the days I don't inject the test). I was able to discontinue the anti-aromatase medications and all is good in the world. Just goes to show more isn't always better. I feel 10 years younger after ony 12 weeks of TRT.
I have a doctors appointment in a couple of weeks and I'll post my lab results when they are available. - Roy
Glad to hear you're dialed in rmarganti! I was very content with a very similar protocal, as you know. However, I have tweaked it, to daily injections of testosterone propionate. I am know using 1/2" 30g syringes and injecting into delts, thighs (shallow IM) and abdomen (SQ).
What a difference! Wow!