Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

[ickyrica]

Sure, him using roidtest has so much relevance and is direct evidence I faked a blind test for Hilma.

I guess you were one of the kids they picked at a lot for not being the sharpest fork in the drawer. I'd insult you some more, but I'm too busy for that now, gotta start a vlog.

an ad hominem is an insult you stump. You side step the part where he says you fake testing (which you do, you dirty little man) and directly attack his character. You may not like it, but by definition the post I quoted above is what it is.

If you are outraged that I insult fucks like @brutus79, and that's while I'm generally being mild compared to the dope fiend

mild? Easy to say when you pray on people from a keyboard. We are all bad ass online bud. You even lift?

Or it's not lateral enough for you when I point out when scamming fucks like EnergyControl try to derail thread with ad hominems or Jim tries to pass made up claims by posting nothing but ad hominems...

you attack every single other form of lab testing out there, and under no circumstance have you differentiated yourself from them by anything other than being a scammer (except EC). Lol at you pointing out scamming fucks. Pot meet kettle.

 

[janoshik]

or its cause the Mauve's are overdosed.

sigh. maybe, just maybe that might be the reason.

 

[Sp2.0]

You got their contact info for W&M or they already on this board?

W&M Analytical Liaison (U.S. Domestic)

 

[janoshik]

an ad hominem is an insult you stump. You side step the part where he says you fake testing (which you do, you dirty little man) and directly attack his character. You may not like it, but by definition the post I quoted above is what it is. View attachment 112735

k.

also show me the fake test please, hon. c'mon. wreck me.

mild? Easy to say when you pray on people from a keyboard. We are all bad ass online bud. You even lift?

Yes, Brutus is trying to act badass over the internet. I don't. Or at least not to such a degree. I'm sure anybody reading will agree.

And yes, I'm bigger and stronger than you by far

you attack every single other form of lab testing out there, and under no circumstance have you differentiated yourself from them by anything other than being a scammer (except EC). Lol at you pointing out scamming fucks. Pot meet kettle.

You know, being as full of shit as you are, I wonder why I waste my time with you. So let's make a list.

1. SIMEC failed at GH tests, everybody knows that, even SIMEC who doesn't do them anymore. I always said that according to my data SIMEC does AAS tests well.

2. I recommend Lab4Tox to people regularly when they need accredited institution and work with them at times.

3. I don't think I ever said a single bad word about Chemtox either.

4. I bashed Jims AAA testing. As did Analyzer, Doug and everybody who knows at least a tiny bit. Jim is a joke and so is anything he had ever attempted to do.

5. I bashed EC, which was a scam.

6. I bashed ChemClarity. guess who turned out right again.

7. I bashed @Weights & Measures for his GH testing, because... well.

does this peak look as if it's area could have been calculated properly? Hint, it can't when the red lines, which mark the integrated area ends before the fucking peak does.



Now, smart guy, how many peaks should "standard" have?



Hint, shouldn't be two. Those tests are a clusterfuck.

Now fuck off. Not going to waste a second more with you.

 

[Sdryx]

k.

also show me the fake test please, hon. c'mon. wreck me.


Yes, Brutus is trying to act badass over the internet. I don't. Or at least not to such a degree. I'm sure anybody reading will agree.

And yes, I'm bigger and stronger than you by far



You know, being as full of shit as you are, I wonder why I waste my time with you. So let's make a list.

1. SIMEC failed at GH tests, everybody knows that, even SIMEC who doesn't do them anymore. I always said that according to my data SIMEC does AAS tests well.

2. I recommend Lab4Tox to people regularly when they need accredited institution and work with them at times.

3. I don't think I ever said a single bad word about Chemtox either.

4. I bashed Jims AAA testing. As did Analyzer, Doug and everybody who knows at least a tiny bit. Jim is a joke and so is anything he had ever attempted to do.

5. I bashed EC, which was a scam.

6. I bashed ChemClarity. guess who turned out right again.

7. I bashed @Weights & Measures for his GH testing, because... well.

does this peak look as if it's area could have been calculated properly? Hint, it can't when the red lines, which mark the integrated area ends before the fucking peak does.

View attachment 112737

Now, smart guy, how many peaks should "standard" have?

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Hint, shouldn't be two. Those tests are a clusterfuck.

Now fuck off. Not going to waste a second more with you.

Didn’t you just fuck up testing on another sample? First it tested 400, then 200, then W&M tested it right at 300. It was confirmed at 300 so you fucked up testing the same sample twice! Lol. Yet here you are pointing at graphs...

Forget purposeful scam... You can’t even test right when you want to.

 

[ickyrica]

also show me the fake test please,

scroll to the top of the page and read the name of this thread.

And yes, I'm bigger and stronger than you by far

again, we are all badass over the internet. I'd bet my bottom dollar you are a joke physically.

You know, being as full of shit as you are, I wonder why I waste my time with you. So let's make a list.

nice list. Stay on topic and stop trying to waffle between anabolic and GH testing. We are in a GH testing thread, aren't we? You loose your shit anytime someone offers any differing insight into GH testing. Does chemtox or lab4tox test GH? To my knowledge neither of them do. Makes sense you wouldn't bash them.

7. I bashed @Weights & Measures for his GH testing, because... well

its funny you bashed him for this. He is bar none the more transparent agency on Meso. I wonder if he ever took advantage of members here by lying?

You want to be the unchallenged guru of testing for the internet fanboys but at the end of the day you're just another shithead source making money off members. You have a knack for telling lies, scripting angles to win arguments and do everything in your power to discredit any challenge to your obvious need for top dog status and it's clear as day it burns you up inside when you get push back from guys like me. I bet you regret telling Mands the lies you did, don't you? Funny how you fucked up potentially the biggest moment of your Meso career and you'll always have a stench on you for the rest of your days. You're like a herpes, always around and bringing down the real estate value of the joint.

Didn’t you just fuck up testing on another sample? First it tested 400, then 200, then W&M tested it right at 300. It was confirmed at 300 so you fucked up testing the same sample twice! Lol. Yet here you are pointing at graphs...

Forget purposeful scam... You can’t even test right when you want to.

didn't he blame that on a helper? Lol.

 

[janoshik]

scroll to the top of the page and read the name of this thread.

Well show me the report then

again, we are all badass over the internet. I'd bet my bottom dollar you are a joke physically.

Send it to the charity then. At least you'll do something useful today.

nice list. Stay on topic and stop trying to waffle between anabolic and GH testing. We are in a GH testing thread, aren't we? You loose your shit anytime someone offers any differing insight into GH testing. Does chemtox or lab4tox test GH? To my knowledge neither of them do. Makes sense you wouldn't bash them.

I lose my shit anytime somebody is retarded. Like you right now.

I know your knowledge is quite limited, but there are at least a few HGH tests conducted by Lab4Tox posted on this forum. Feel free to look.

Also, it quite sums up the degree of your 'knowledge.'

it's clear as day it burns you up inside when you get push back from guys like me

Sure, you are showing me by being wrong. See the sentence above for reference.

It's nothing more than simply annoying when some waste of time such as you appears and refuses to obey. I though I told you something about wasting my time. It's more precious than yours.

 

[5millionbucks]

Well show me the report then


Send it to the charity then. At least you'll do something useful today.


I lose my shit anytime somebody is retarded. Like you right now.

I know your knowledge is quite limited, but there are at least a few HGH tests conducted by Lab4Tox posted on this forum. Feel free to look.

Also, it quite sums up the degree of your 'knowledge.'


Sure, you are showing me by being wrong. See the sentence above.

It's nothing more than simply annoying when some waste of time such as you appears and refuses to obey. I though I told you something about wasting my time. It's more precious than yours.

bruh just post a video of you testing a sample at a your lab; this in all will prove to the naysayers. Wear a mask, costume, or whatever the fuck you want; people inject needles up their ass and test roids on youtube videos and don't get flamed, might as well do it with the lab testing.

 

[janoshik]

bruh just post a video of you testing a sample at a your lab; this in all will prove to the naysayers. Wear a mask, costume, or whatever the fuck you want; people inject needles up their ass and test roids on youtube videos and don't get flamed, might as well do it with the lab testing.

I did that multiple times actually for the people that I trust.

I think you'd be better off asking W&M for such a video and take your business there.

 

[ickyrica]

Well show me the report then


Send it to the charity then. At least you'll do something useful today.


I lose my shit anytime somebody is retarded. Like you right now.

I know your knowledge is quite limited, but there are at least a few HGH tests conducted by Lab4Tox posted on this forum. Feel free to look.

Also, it quite sums up the degree of your 'knowledge.'


Sure, you are showing me by being wrong. See the sentence above for reference.

It's nothing more than simply annoying when some waste of time such as you appears and refuses to obey. I though I told you something about wasting my time. It's more precious than yours.

What a complex lol. What's being wasted is MB server space. Regardless of knowledge and skillset, you're a proven fraud. Does it even matter past that point? I don't think so.

Well show me the report then

what report? The report that never existed because you never ran the sample? Oh yeah, that report. Anything to try and win, eh Jano?

The saddest thing about this is you stand tall and proud on lies. You enjoy being the heal. Smh. Get a clue.

bruh just post a video of you testing a sample at a your lab; this in all will prove to the naysayers. Wear a mask, costume, or whatever the fuck you want; people inject needles up their ass and test roids on youtube videos and don't get flamed, might as well do it with the lab testing.

He can't do that. It would expose him.

 

[ickyrica]

Didn’t you just fuck up testing on another sample? First it tested 400, then 200, then W&M tested it right at 300. It was confirmed at 300 so you fucked up testing the same sample twice! Lol. Yet here you are pointing at graphs...

Forget purposeful scam... You can’t even test right when you want to.

let's not watch this get passed by. @janoshik what's the deal, bro? Time for a campaign of hate against you for being a bad lab rat? Or maybe sometimes shit happens? What's the excuse?

 

[brutus79]

Well show me the report then [emoji14]


Send it to the charity then. At least you'll do something useful today.


I lose my shit anytime somebody is retarded. Like you right now.

I know your knowledge is quite limited, but there are at least a few HGH tests conducted by Lab4Tox posted on this forum. Feel free to look.

Also, it quite sums up the degree of your 'knowledge.'


Sure, you are showing me by being wrong. See the sentence above for reference.

It's nothing more than simply annoying when some waste of time such as you appears and refuses to obey. I though I told you something about wasting my time. It's more precious than yours.

Of course it is. You have tons of samples you don't get every day that you pretend to receive until the person who sent them gets them back and exposes you as a liar. Then you have to sit in that thread for eternity defending the integrity you do not possess and acting like you aren't still scamming... even though you are. It all looks very tiring from here.

 

[janoshik]

Of course it is. You have tons of samples you don't get every day that you pretend to receive until the person who sent them gets them back and exposes you as a liar. Then you have to sit in that thread for eternity defending the integrity you do not possess and acting like you aren't still scamming... even though you are. It all looks very tiring from here.

I'm sorry, despite me trying the hardest I can, I can't make out what you are trying to express over the 3000 blind tests conducted. Would you help me out?

 

[ickyrica]

Of course it is. You have tons of samples you don't get every day that you pretend to receive until the person who sent them gets them back and exposes you as a liar. Then you have to sit in that thread for eternity defending the integrity you do not possess and acting like you aren't still scamming... even though you are. It all looks very tiring from here.

But he's bigger than we are Brutus. And his time is worth more. I'm sad now. I'm not the king of internet tough guys anymore

 

[brutus79]

But he's bigger than we are Brutus. And his time is worth more. I'm sad now. I'm not the king of internet tough guys anymore

How quick would you kill yourself if your income depended on meso? I would jam a screwdriver into my eye socket within 30 seconds.... or a pen. I have pens within 30 seconds for sure- but either way this guy leads the most depressing of existences.

 

[janoshik]

How quick would you kill yourself if your income depended on meso? I would jam a screwdriver into my eye socket within 30 seconds.... or a pen. I have pens within 30 seconds for sure- but either way this guy leads the most depressing of existences.

You have an income?

 

[ickyrica]

but either way this guy leads the most depressing of existences

I'm by far a party animal these days but this guy is sitting at a computer on a Friday night arguing with other internet tough guys. That's the definition of depressing imo.

As far as income from Meso goes, I couldn't imagine. I get to meet all of my customers, shake hands and provide a scam free service. The thing about jano is he's just butthurt because he can't be a legitimate member of the science community anymore for whatever reason. Probably stole his testing gear and has been blacklisted.

 

[ickyrica]

Didn’t you just fuck up testing on another sample? First it tested 400, then 200, then W&M tested it right at 300. It was confirmed at 300 so you fucked up testing the same sample twice! Lol. Yet here you are pointing at graphs...

Forget purposeful scam... You can’t even test right when you want to.

am I blocked now @janoshik? Can you answer this? I think you're avoiding it

 

[88general88]

So, here's the story of Jano and my experience with him. I was contemplation not going this route AND handle it privately BUT, now he's trying to insult my intelligence by giving me some bull crap story. I will share with you.

I sent Jano three samples of GH (TP's black TOP meditrope batch #17) for testing. The reason we/he wanted to check his testing with the current AAA testing that myself and @Dr JIM are using. Of course our testing isn't any good by Jano's standard and a few others from PM.

So, I got a private message from Jano that my package was stuck in customs and asked if I used my real address. I skated around the question and told him it was not my address. He said no worries he could get it out of customs no problem and he would test it.

I was supposed to tell him when I received the testing back from our lab to compare to his. Here is our convo on that...

1. janoActive Member
   Hello Mr. Mands.
   
   I just checked and the package seem to have been stopped by customs.
   
   Would you please describe the package completely to me please? So I can decide if I should try picking it up, or if it's too big a risk.
   
   I apologise for the trouble.
   
   jano, Oct 23, 2016Report
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   mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
   EDITED TOO MUCH INFO. Took out some product and placed 3 vials in there wrapped up.
   
   mands
   
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   janoActive Member
   Were the vials marked in any way except the batch # ?
   
   jano, Oct 24, 2016Report
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   mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
   Nope only batch#
   
   mands
   
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   janoActive Member
   Thank you, I'll try to pick them up tomorrow.
   
   jano, Oct 24, 2016Report
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   janoActive Member
   Hello Mr. Mands,
   regarding the return address - did you provide your real address?
   
   jano, Oct 25, 2016Report
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   mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
   I provided a real address but not my home.
   
   mands
   
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   janoActive Member
   Good, they had the address noted down, for some reason, just thought I'd warn you.
   
   Give or take a few hours and I'll be ready
   
   jano, Oct 25, 2016Report
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   mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
   Okay! Noted where?
   
   mands
   
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    janoActive Member
    "Contact sender for more informaiton" at the customs.
    
    They only gave it to me, because I am registered lab, but I might suffering some consequences due to the samples being found out.
    
    The stealth was good, it was just a bad coincidence
    
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Okay so a little more back in forth messaging and then he reaches out to me asking if I had any info back(news)...

any news?
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   janoActive Member
   thanks
   
   - jano
   
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   mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
   Okay I'm ready when you are. How did those Black tops turn out for you.
   
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   janoActive Member
   I tested #17 three times:
   
   5.2mg was the average result.
   
   A vial from your kit was 5.27mg
   
   So it seems that you consistently get lower results than me and I am very confident in my results.
   
   jano, Nov 22, 2016Report
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Here is when it gets good...

Yesterday I get a call from my GF and she says did you get something for Christmas from the Czech Republic. I told her to leave it at the door.

I get home and take a look at it and wow I open it and look inside to my amazement the package and (3) gh vials #17 were in the pack. right where I put them. Wrapped up in a two band aids I put them in with all the contents that were in the package I sent.

So, I contact one person by phone this morning from MESO(that I trust). Then I get on encrypted message and talk to two other members from PM and MESO. I told one straight out and mentioned to the other but didn't really give his name. I contacted for their opinion on the matter.

I highly doubt they PM members told him. But, I did get a PM from him stating this...

PM below...

1. mands, Oct 25, 2016EditReport
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   janoActive Member
   Well well well.
   
   Seems like my lack of communication led you to believe I did lie to you, as you've suggested I am a liar in the thread. I apologize for that and I think it had been pointed out because the package seems to have bounced back to you just now.
   
   If that's not the case, please, don't feel like having to read any further - though it will not hurt.
   
   As I have let you know two months ago already, the customs had expressed great interest about the package and gave me trouble regarding it both before and after I got it.
   
   A few days later, before I got to the analysis or opening the package at all, they called me while I was away about either charging me with importing faked medicine or gave me the option to return the package intact to the sender.
   
   I had my gf switch one of the vials with one of the spare vials of #17 I had acquired previously for different test and had her carry the package to the customs office to have it shipped back. The customs had pictures of the contents of the package, so it had to be returned 'whole'.
   
   As I asked you previously if that was your address and you negated it, I simply assumed the pack would bounce and get trashed, so I didn't bother with explaining all this - which seems now like a mistake on my side.
   
   To be honest, I though I mentioned that to you, but it seems I talked about that with somebody else or misremembered it completely, as it's not in our message history, so I was wrong.
   
   Had I not checked the state of the package after I had read your passively agressive post in the thread, this could've been left unexplained and I would hate that.
   
   Please, next time, if there is one, confront me directly out in the open, even if it will make me look like an idiot - it's better to look like one than to leave stuff like this unexplained.
   
   With best regards,
   janoshik
   
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   janoActive Member
   I still stand past my results, as always.
   
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   mandsWell-Known MemberAnabolicLab.com Supporter
   I didn't threaten you in the open. You assumed it was you cause you lied about testing my vials or one of the two persons I told from PM told you already. I will handle that next.
   
   mands
   
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My questions if I even wanted an answer would be these:

1. Why would you be adamant about what address I used(fake or real)? I know why... That was you could tell me you tested my vials and get away with it if customs wasn't sending it back to a real address.
2. Why would you take the package back down to customs after being called to return it? Just tell them you tossed it. Oh but you were out of town and GF took it. If they threatened you with arrest why would they give it to you in the first place. lol
3. Why would you not tell me this story about customs or your gf switching vials with one of mine? Pretty important info I would think. And you were PM'ing me EOD at least at one point so it's not like we weren't in communication.
4. Why not take all three vials out and replace them with three from your stash if you wanted to test all three vials? I know because it didn't happen. My original band aids holding the vials together were still in there along will all of my other components.

This one bothers me as well...
"As I asked you previously if that was your address and you negated it, I simply assumed the pack would bounce and get trashed, so I didn't bother with explaining all this - which seems now like a mistake on my side.

To be honest, I though I mentioned that to you, but it seems I talked about that with somebody else or misremembered it completely, as it's not in our message history, so I was wrong."
You state that you thought it would get trashed so you didn't bother explaining it. BUT, to be honest you thought you did mention it. lol So you mentioned to somebody you are getting packages from me? WTF. Oh wait you now maybe "misremembered" it completely hahahahaha.

So many more but at this point anything you say will not change my mind on what has transpired here.

Sorry so long.

mands

Hey homeboy, just wanted to take the opportunity and say thank you for posting this. I do t have an experience doing business with Jano, however, my experience of sitting back and watching how based on results, he seems to enjoy creating conflict. Personally, all the inconsistencies with stories and testing, I don’t see why sources still used him, any sources that used him and posted results I took with a grain of salt.

Again thank you for sharing you honest opinion. Sorry to hear that he attempted to run game on you. Only imagine your frustration especially since there is time and MONEY, involved.

 

[janoshik]

MONEY, involved.

Are you sure?