Unbelievable. SMH
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tipdog
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Exactly
IM why so disrespectful towards millard?
ItalianMuscle27
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Funny, your comment was just a subtle way of being a smartass towards me. I guess you can do that on an uncensored forum.
tipdog
New Member
This has been my sentiment for a while.
Millard thank you for everything that you provide for use I could never repay you.
This is where the evening ends. Be on the right side or at least be able to defend your position. I don't belive this will continue much longer.
It's good to see the Consumer Review Freedom Act introduced in Congress this week:
Source: http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/congress-fight-for-your-right-to-yelp-20140915
Source: http://mashable.com/2014/09/16/bill-negative-online-reviews/
Source: http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/congress-fight-for-your-right-to-yelp-20140915
Source: http://mashable.com/2014/09/16/bill-negative-online-reviews/
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Millard's comment was much more subtle than mine would have been under the circumstances.
ironwill1951
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you guys do realize you are encouraging IM to be a prick , you banter back and forth with him making him the center of attention , that is exactly what he wants , he is so ignorant that by acting like a big dick he thinks he is important because of the attention he is getting , the best thing to do is let this thread go dead without the attention he will leave, no one likes this jackass and if no one replies to his posts he will go be a dick somewhere else,,,
johnnyBALLZ
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graniteman
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As I stated and your Leader Millard stated you will not find a lab to give individuals quantitative results. Labs that test schedule 1 drugs are licensed by DEA and DEA says no results will be given unlesss you are a entity legally needing this inf, lawyer, doc, etc. If you have info to the contrary post one up and you will have actually contributed a worthy post for once. Going over the same shit again with you is a waste of life.And yet you keep replying, don't you?
Regardless, you are the one posting on a forum where you're a laughingstock. So who's looking for attention? LMFAO
I see you ignored the challenge I issued to you. You know? The challenge to cite your evidence for your statement that "no licensed lab in the (lowercase T in "the," GM) continental USA ( I guess you're not claiming it applies to the non-continental US) will give quantitative (that's quantitative, not quantative, GM) DATA (I assume you meant data)." Since you have no proof, you're full of shit - AS USUAL.
Don't you get tired of being humiliated, Gman? I've never seen ANYONE that was such a glutton for punishment. Your rebuttals to everyone's posts have consisted of nothing more than weak flames. Honestly, you don't even make it fun. In fact, you put up so little fight, I'm starting to feel a little guilty. What's worse is you don't even seem aware.
I don't even want to talk with you but I actually feel bad for you, jumping around like a excited little puppy craving my attention. So I throw your nerd ass a bone every now n then by acknowledging you exist. Now go away lest I roll up a newspaper and swat you little boy. You remind me of Sheldon on the Big bang theory, a dork.
Well, you would be wrong, why do you think he has to creep on boards, scared to post, and get his info from others?
Your true sides come out with time on every forum , then you're run off.
We should never hear from anyone that you can't speak your mind at mesorx.
Yeah, everyone keeps saying that but no one has provided any evidence to support it other than the following quote from Ecstasydata:
"The DEA has made an unpublished administrative rule that licensed labs are not allowed to provide quantitative data to the public, reportedly for fear of providing 'quality control' to dealers and suppliers of black market products."
Plug that quote into Google and you'll see it goes back years and has been posted all over the net - VERBATIM.
I think it's urban legend.
BTW, I know for a fact that Millard is NOT saying unequivocally that "you will not find a lab to give individuals quantitative results" because of some unwritten DEA rule. The reason I know that is he has NO proof. And Millard does not expect nor ask anyone to take his word for anything he can't prove. Millard is a man that places the truth above all else. That sentiment is something many of us on Meso have in common.
Oh, no. It doesn't work that way, chum. The burden of proof is always on the person asserting a claim, not person criticizing the assertion. You're promoting an argument from ignorance, Gman. Naughty, naughty.
Keep deflecting with personal attacks. It just proves you're FOS and hasn't gone unnoticed - both here and elsewhere.
Consider this (another) formal challenge: Name one other forum from which I, Johnny or Brutus have been run off.
ItalianMuscle27
Member
Leave? Thats what you guys want, and I wont give you the satisfaction. Thats the beauty of having an uncensored forum.. We can say pretty much anything, but threaten someone..
By the way.. I would get with johnnyballz. You're looking pretty sickly/thin in your avatar. Rumor on the street, jb is bulking and is upto 230lbs. Maybe he can shed some insight how he gained that much weight.. Probably the anadrol, but thats just a hunch.
ItalianMuscle27
Member
actually johnnyballz was banned from TID. He was reinstated for whatever reason. You must have an infatuation for trolling forums for our posts. Your weak ass attempts to try and embarrass is quite humorous to be honest. Its quite obvious, outside of work(you do nothing but post here) Do you even work out?
Strange you dont post at TID anymore, and I havent seen one post at AB from you at all since you joined. Just shows you what a coward you are.
graniteman
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You should definitely know better paul. It is not just me and IM that hink this way, it's the entire mature community. Don't make this out as it's just us 2, you can see how boards feel about them , all 3 by how unwelcome they are. They have to creep forums or have ''friends'' tell them what's going on. I have a very strong hunch who the 2 talkers are , time will tell, it usually brings all things out .
I try to stay out of this thread but when untrue or misleading info is said about me I feel the need to set it straight
graniteman
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Sounds here like he agrees
If they hold the licensing, they make the rules, lawyers or laws don't matter. There is no legal justification for anyone minus legal parties in a court case, dr's., companies with a legit need etc, to have access to schedule 1 substances.
^^This
We are discussing whether labs are prohibited from providing quantitative data to the public, not who has a legal right to "access to SCHEDULE 1 substances.
You say "if they ( the DEA) hold the licensing, they make the rules, lawyers or laws don't matter."
That is nonsense. The DEA have no legal right to restrict speech on the basis of some unwritten rule (theirs). I have no interest in getting into a legal argument but suffice it to say, there is one major flaw in your argument:
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
The content-discrimination principle of modern First Amendment law, as expressed by Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall in Police Dept. of City of Chicago v. Mosley (1972) makes clear the government cannot restrict speech because it doesn't like its content:
“But, above all else, the First Amendment means that government has no power to restrict expression because of its message, its ideas, its subject matter, or its content.” https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/408/92/case.html
Now that doesn't mean the DEA wont try to restrict speech by other means, and in the case of SRCS, that's exactly what they did:
"...agents from several agencies including DEA, State Commerce Commission, and local law enforcement who over the course of the day cloned our computer hard drives, confiscated most all of our retained samples as well as our analytical and financial records for the previous five or more years. Any and all documentation and records we had pertaining to samples received, email and personal financial information, client lists and standards lists were confiscated and will be reviewed extensively by whomever the DEA deems worthy.
We voluntarily surrendered our controlled substances license and will no longer be capable of providing analysis for the aforementioned substances. Because of the total confiscation of all our documentation, the production of timely requests of analyses in progress will be affected negatively. We will do all we can to get back up to speed and minimize to the best of our ability any interruptions in service for "non-regulated" substances as soon as we can. We apologize deeply for any inconvenience and negative impact this will have.
Sincerely,
San Rafael Chemical Services, Inc."
As you can see, their controlled substances license was not revoked (as it would have been if they were in violation of the law), it was voluntarily surrendered - and no doubt because of the hardship they were forced to endure by the DEA. IMO, this was an abuse of power that would have never been able to stand up to a court challenge. It's unfortunate SRCS didn't try.We voluntarily surrendered our controlled substances license and will no longer be capable of providing analysis for the aforementioned substances. Because of the total confiscation of all our documentation, the production of timely requests of analyses in progress will be affected negatively. We will do all we can to get back up to speed and minimize to the best of our ability any interruptions in service for "non-regulated" substances as soon as we can. We apologize deeply for any inconvenience and negative impact this will have.
Sincerely,
San Rafael Chemical Services, Inc."
So, there is still no proof that labs are not allowed to provide quantitative data to the public.
Gm I have to say that I am disappointed in all of you. IM and yourself have done nothing for the boards you represent. In the same way that I would have approached this debacle differently than it was pursued by respected members that post on meso.
Like I said, it has been entertaining but no one is better of for it other than those who have a sense of humor.
Like I said, it has been entertaining but no one is better of for it other than those who have a sense of humor.
