MESO-Rx

Anabolic Steroids

Marijuana [Cannabis]

ergomaniac said:
you could easily make an argument, that it does in fact have something to do with real marijuana, if people are using these drugs as a legal alternative because of draconian drug laws towards marijuana.
as far as I know, you can actually overdose on synthetic "cannabinoids", and I think ive done it myself. although, im still here. some are to be dosed in very small amounts, if at all.
synthetic "cannabinoids" are not like huffing paint, although I have no real experience huffing paint.
everything is a chemical. including steroids. there aren't too many "naturally" occurring steroids, I can think of two most commonly used. everything else is a "chemical" made in a lab.
the article dosent mention what "cannabinoids" were found. but having used a dozen or so synthetic "cannabinoids" I can attest to the fact that "some synthetic 'cannabinoids' are relatively well tolerated." as it says in the article.
synthetic "cannabinoids" are almost like prohormones, or "prohormones". when the real thing is made illegal, people look for another way. and they've found it. drug laws don't seem to slow that down. so imho, this problem is because of drug laws.
synthetic "cannabinoids" are almost like sarms in that they don't have the same classical structure. they have a functional group which interacts with a receptor. in this case, a cannabinoid receptor. there are cannabinoid receptors in the brain, and throughout the body. which is why some strains of marijuana are grown for more cbd and others for more thc. body and brain. I know for a fact that some synthetic "cannabinoids" have been developed by drug companies with therapeutic purposes in mind. but you cant patent marijuana. but im glad ive found some these "cannabinoids". they were some of the most intense drug experiences ive had yet. Id like to have more but how high can you go?
anyone really interested should really look into a drugs forum where they discuss these things like steroids are here. practically and scientifically.
to me its all the same thing. just pieces to a puzzle.
or something.
Click to expand...

This is the problem, people think that because it is an alternative to using marijuana that it should be compared to/ classified with marijuana. This isn't the case.

If someone can't get there hands on injectable steroids so they settle for some bull shit pro hormones and trash their liver and get gyno, does this mean pro hormones should be compared to steroids? To me it doesn't. It's the same with spice. People smoke it for different reasons, job drug testing, no pot dealer etc etc. doesn't mean it's the same.

Bottom line is this. Real marijuana grows in the ground. You can plant it, pluck it and smoke it and get high. It also has countless healing properties not to mention being a stress reliever and an anti depressant. Spice is made in a lab and sprayed onto a weed using a spray bottle full of who knows what. I myself have smoked spice before when I had a job in the oil field that did regular drug testing. I experienced internal bleeding and exteme memory loss to the point I couldn't remember shit that happened the day before. Real marijuana doesn't do this.

No one has ever died from smoking too many joints bro
 
Fakenatty4lyfe said:
This is the problem, people think that because it is an alternative to using marijuana that it should be compared to/ classified with marijuana. This isn't the case.

If someone can't get there hands on injectable steroids so they settle for some bull shit pro hormones and trash their liver and get gyno, does this mean pro hormones should be compared to steroids? To me it doesn't. It's the same with spice. People smoke it for different reasons, job drug testing, no pot dealer etc etc. doesn't mean it's the same.

Bottom line is this. Real marijuana grows in the ground. You can plant it, pluck it and smoke it and get high. It also has countless healing properties not to mention being a stress reliever and an anti depressant. Spice is made in a lab and sprayed onto a weed using a spray bottle full of who knows what. I myself have smoked spice before when I had a job in the oil field that did regular drug testing. I experienced internal bleeding and exteme memory loss to the point I couldn't remember shit that happened the day before. Real marijuana doesn't do this.

No one has ever died from smoking too many joints bro
Click to expand...

there are enough plants out there that can be toxic or poisonous, so we can dismiss any argument that because you can plant it or pluck it, its somehow safe. some of marijuanas healing properties are due to the fact that its active components interact with the endocannabinoid system throughout the body, including the brain. so do synthetic "cannabinoids", of which there are many. so I think you can compare them to a degree. same with "prohormones", many of which are in fact steroids. mostly old oral steroids, with some injectables. it would probably be best to look at theses drugs honestly and maybe individually and see what they really are instead of lumping them all together. steroids vs "prohormones". marijuana vs "spice". theyre not all the same. spice is the name of a product containing synthetic "cannabinoids", which you say you smoked and suffered internal bleeding and amnesia. I find that hard to believe. do you even know what was in what you were smoking? ill bet you can find some scholarly articles dealing with synthetic "cannabinoids" if you look real hard, instead of the normal paranoid "news" coverage.
 
ergomaniac said:
there are enough plants out there that can be toxic or poisonous, so we can dismiss any argument that because you can plant it or pluck it, its somehow safe. some of marijuanas healing properties are due to the fact that its active components interact with the endocannabinoid system throughout the body, including the brain. so do synthetic "cannabinoids", of which there are many. so I think you can compare them to a degree. same with "prohormones", many of which are in fact steroids. mostly old oral steroids, with some injectables. it would probably be best to look at theses drugs honestly and maybe individually and see what they really are instead of lumping them all together. steroids vs "prohormones". marijuana vs "spice". theyre not all the same. spice is the name of a product containing synthetic "cannabinoids", which you say you smoked and suffered internal bleeding and amnesia. I find that hard to believe. do you even know what was in what you were smoking? ill bet you can find some scholarly articles dealing with synthetic "cannabinoids" if you look real hard, instead of the normal paranoid "news" coverage.
Click to expand...

Steroids vs prohormones may have been a bad analogy but real marijuana and spice are two completely different things. I did in fact have internal bleeding from smoking spice and it did in fact make me slow thinking and destroyed my short term memory. It did this to countless people and there are many reports of it. Please find one REAL active ingredient that exist in both spice and real homegrown marijuana. There isn't one. We can compare bathsalts to cocaine and gmo farms to organic farms all day. They are not equal.

Marijuana is natural and grows from a seed. Spice is made in a lab. There is no legitimate comparison to be made unless you are simply trying to make marijuana sound dangerous because you have something against it.
 
Fakenatty4lyfe said:
Steroids vs prohormones may have been a bad analogy but real marijuana and spice are two completely different things. I did in fact have internal bleeding from smoking spice and it did in fact make me slow thinking and destroyed my short term memory. It did this to countless people and there are many reports of it. Please find one REAL active ingredient that exist in both spice and real homegrown marijuana. There isn't one. We can compare bathsalts to cocaine and gmo farms to organic farms all day. They are not equal.

Marijuana is natural and grows from a seed. Spice is made in a lab. There is no legitimate comparison to be made unless you are simply trying to make marijuana sound dangerous because you have something against it.
Click to expand...

synthetic "cannabinoids" aren't found in marijuana. theyre synthetic ;). theyre obviously two different things, that work the same way. I think that's clear.
you can compare "bath salts" to cocaine through their moa. and there are cocaine analogs. better yet, you can compare "bath salts" to amphetamines both in their moa and chemistry. whatever "bath salts" mean :confused:. there are thousands of "designer" drugs.
you seem to missing a bigger point and picture here.
 
I don't think marijuana is the problem. I think the problem is we are raising everyone one up to be lazy ass fucks. I know plenty of people who smoke marijuana and are great people and I know way more people who do not smoke marijuana. that think they are entitled to everything without having to work for it. I don't think any drug is the problem. people are the fucking problem.
 
I hate weed.
I live next to slab city in cali. And I swear for the past couple of months there's been a rise in the hippie population. They are now plaguing our stores and forming drum circles and shit.
They even have the audacity to beg for money and smoke a joint right in front of you.
 
I can't believe how many people are on an AAS forum demonizing a drug that is far safer than any of the drugs they are injecting. Just as with (virtually) any drug, including PEDs, marijuana has its benefits and also has the potential for abuse. Stop being such hypocrites.

p.s. I haven't been a pot smoker for 15 years.
 
I don't think weed is bad but if your going to smoke the herb out of a bowl, I'd say it will definitely effect your cardio and if you're on cycle then I would be nervous cause the spike in estrogen it causes when you smoke it.

When you're off cycle and you want to smoke without having to effect your lungs, I say just eat it like make cookies or some kind of edible and I think you will be ok.
 
My state (CT) is debating whether to go full legalization of weed, and I'd love to see that happen. Once there's a lot of states considering legalizing weed, then a tipping point will be reached where the feds will have to consider going that route as well. If the old farts that we elect to office can be convinced legalization is in the best interest of the country they they should vote for it. We all will win when this happens!
 
Ach3r0n said:
I can't believe how many people are on an AAS forum demonizing a drug that is far safer than any of the drugs they are injecting. Just as with (virtually) any drug, including PEDs, marijuana has its benefits and also has the potential for abuse. Stop being such hypocrites.

p.s. I haven't been a pot smoker for 15 years.
Click to expand...
I was a big user of pot back in my college days...2 dime bags kept me happy for almost 2 weeks :)

Haven't smoked it regularly since then, just now and then but if it goes legal I'll be smoking it again (keep in mind be very careful because of employer drug tests)
 
TyroneMoreGains said:
I hate weed.
I live next to slab city in cali. And I swear for the past couple of months there's been a rise in the hippie population. They are now plaguing our stores and forming drum circles and shit.
They even have the audacity to beg for money and smoke a joint right in front of you.
Click to expand...

Slab City ! lol - I saw a documentary about it on Nat Geo . Whole nuther world there . If I make it to Glamis & the Mojave desert someday might stop to check it out . Peace Brother :D lol
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

BuildABro
My experience with Tren-Hex (Parabolan)
Replies
17
Views
1K
BuildABro
BuildABro
Type-IIx
Type-IIx's NEXT Live Symposium and Q&A is this Saturday, July 6 on CLENBUTEROL, and REVISITING The Unique FEATURES OF 12 Steroids for the NEW BROS
Replies
10
Views
616
Deskoze38192
D
S
A guy with shoulder impingement.
Replies
3
Views
170
thomasdurden
thomasdurden
A
very important topic , most harmful steroid to body organs , and the most toxic to the brain ? not tren (SCIENCE BACKED)
4 5 6
Replies
101
Views
8K
goldmedaltartar
G
dreyganborn
Well hello, there..
Replies
5
Views
337
about1314
A

Sponsors

Latest posts

Back
Top