Mass Spec Thread

[whodatnation]

Yes thank you very much Millard. Many of us appreciate it.

Thanks, @Capt Forest - I do what I can

 

[Voltrader]

Are we having a Millard love fest....if anyone deserves one it would be him.

 

[RomanMVP]

Are we having a Millard love fest....if anyone deserves one it would be him.

I like turtles..........................

 

[Voltrader]

 

[calfcramp]

Mr. Leonard. I've been pounding at doors, so to speak, as well. It probably wouldn't hurt to touch base. I could sever a lot of unnecessary foot work.

 

[Millard]

Are we having a Millard love fest....if anyone deserves one it would be him.

Hold the love fest. Wait until I have actionable information. Then, maybe I'll reconsider

 

[calfcramp]

Pardon me. I meant, Mr Millard.

Mr. Leonard. I've been pounding at doors, so to speak, as well. It probably wouldn't hurt to touch base. I could sever a lot of unnecessary foot work.

Pardon me. I mean, Mr Millard.

 

[brutus79]

Pardon me. I meant, Mr Millard.



Pardon me. I mean, Mr Millard.

prepare to be banned for your blasphemy! just kidding- if he ever banned people I would be loooooooong gone.

 

[RomanMVP]

the kid that started it all.

 

[graniteman]

UPDATE: DDL replied to my inquiry. They said they "do not currently test for androgens".

DDL is the lab that analyzes MDMA and psychoactive drug samples on behalf of EcstasyData.org. This means it is not advised to send your AAS samples to EcstasyData.

I've also received a report from a long-time member who fears he is out the cash to ED/DDL that he sent for anonymous testing a month ago.

Another lab that I contacted replied with prohibitive rates for AAS testing. I am hoping to negotiate something better.

Two other labs have not yet responded.

I will contact two European labs shortly.

Not doubting your word Millard but if you go on ecstasydata.org they have many aas test results. ALP's anavar is on their and came out clean, no winny as Labmax test said. I know they say do not send HGH in as their machine is not calibrated for HGH, molecules are too big or some techie stuff

 

[graniteman]

ALP's and others results are mid page and lower. I would send the sample in as unknown..''I just found it in my kids room..WHAT IS IT!!'''

http://www.ecstasydata.org/results.php

 

[calfcramp]

Not doubting your word Millard but if you go on ecstasydata.org they have many aas test results. ALP's anavar is on their and came out clean, no winny as Labmax test said. I know they say do not send HGH in as their machine is not calibrated for HGH, molecules are too big or some techie stuff

They will not give you quantitation if you have them tested. FDA will not allow them to. They, however, will give you a positive or negative result. It's as good as labmax.

 

[graniteman]

They will not give you quantitation if you have them tested. FDA will not allow them to. They, however, will give you a positive or negative result. It's as good as labmax.

Not quite, it is a mass spec test, it wil l tell you exactly what it is , no guessing. True you cannot get A concentration or purity result , no lab in the USA can, legally. APL's var came up as winny with the labmax, under this mass spec it was found to be var, no winny. I've tried it and can tell you it is NOT winny like labmax test found. Winny is a killer on the joints there is no hiding it with me anyways

 

[calfcramp]

Not quite, it is a mass spec test, it wil l tell you exactly what it is , no guessing. True you cannot get A concentration or purity result , no lab in the USA can, legally. APL's var came up as winny with the labmax, under this mass spec it was found to be var, no winny. I've tried it and can tell you it is NOT winny like labmax test found. Winny is a killer on the joints there is no hiding it with me anyways

Dude, it's all an their site. The service they provide is for the mommy that found a pill in little Jimmie's pocket while doing the clothes. They do mass spectrometry, yes. They will not give %. It's a market and not ours.

 

[graniteman]

Dude, it's all an their site. The service they provide is for the mommy that found a pill in little Jimmie's pocket while doing the clothes. They do mass spectrometry, yes. They will not give %. It's a market and not ours.

yea, that's what I said, if you read my post? Go ahead and keep using labmax and getting mixed results as well as proven WRONG results. At the very least with this mass spec test you know if you're getting what you paid for at least until something viable pops up. If labmax was proven wrong how do you draw the comparison?

 

[pumpingiron22]

@ volt that shit had me rolling on the floor!

 

[calfcramp]

yea, that's what I said, if you read my post? Go ahead and keep using labmax and getting mixed results as well as proven WRONG results. At the very least with this mass spec test you know if you're getting what you paid for at least until something viable pops up. If labmax was proven wrong how do you draw the comparison?

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[tacohuman]

labmax is subjective and held hostage by the competence of the tester and/or the accuracy of the camera. Its a useful tool, but results really need to be compared to one another for decent effectiveness. Mass spec doesn't have this weakness, but is prohibitive due to cost as well as availability.

Saying labmax was "proven wrong" is really an attack on the tester and not the tool. You can't say a hammer is broken because it won't turn a screw.

 

[mercury]

Not quite, it is a mass spec test, it wil l tell you exactly what it is , no guessing. True you cannot get A concentration or purity result , no lab in the USA can, legally. APL's var came up as winny with the labmax, under this mass spec it was found to be var, no winny. I've tried it and can tell you it is NOT winny like labmax test found. Winny is a killer on the joints there is no hiding it with me anyways

It all depends on the tester. People do not follow instruction and cannot read the color. Labmax works and it reacts with different color to anavar and winstrol, everything is documented too well on labmax site but nobody reads and tries to be smart. Who ever tested could not do it right.

GC/MS is done by experienced chemist/lab but if he was doing labmax he would do it right.

 

[clamz]

I was wondering if any of you guys were following the mass speec controversy. if not. it seems to be a strong possibility that the guy over at eroids may have been a bit misleading about the mass spec testing. wether willingly or not, it seems that all those tests have been wildly erroneous. aat first i thought it was a few scorned srcs and fanboys but the more its being looked into the more its unraveling. even when i read up on it, the electrospray ms, is not the preferred method, and may not even be a possible gauge of purity and definetly not of concentration. it neeeds to. be donee by gas chrom ms to be accurate, and he doesn't use that method. i just bring this up to say maybe we shouldn't send this guy anymore money until its cleared up, i sent $150 the week before it. started and i feel some. kinfd of way about it. i sent power and md test e that i brewed.. anyway don't take my word, best to do research and form an opinion but i lose faith everyday, and think i may have been had here.