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This is the one I have.
This is the one I have.
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MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Mass Spec Thread
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whodatnation
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The idea pops into my head of funding the acquisition of say five machines and placed with five chosen people who know how to operate. When something is sent for testing all five testers receive it and when the test are complete if you have a five out of five , you then move forward with your agenda.
Multiple people testing at one time is the key to shutting up the smear campaign. The same data used on each device with the same operating program and then you have something. One guy goes rogue and it is easily figured out
Multiple people testing at one time is the key to shutting up the smear campaign. The same data used on each device with the same operating program and then you have something. One guy goes rogue and it is easily figured out
4leafclover
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There was an actual American lab that did mass specs on steroids sent to it until the government took away their license to test that level of substance (they required labels to be removed). The lab owner said it was a shame, because in his eyes, he was helping consumers avoid very negative consequences from bad gear. He also felt, people would use the substances anyways, so it was his responsibility as a healthcare professional to provide as much accurate information as possible. That's what kind of respected lab would conduct mass specs for people.
Not saying whoever the 60 dollar lab's person is legit, but you would be surprised at what healthcare people are willing to do, to help those in their charge. Also not to say, that some healthcare professionals aren't willing to take advantage of you either, but both ends of the spectrum do exist.
As for any supplier/retailer who supplies mass specs, be wary. This is why I was drawn to meso, as third party people conducted the tests, and from random orders (retailer had no way of knowing if the gear they sent would be tested). I always take mass specs conducted from supplier/retailer with a grain of salt, it's in their best interest to put a good foot forward.
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4leafclover
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You should also read this one!
http://www.amazon.com/Underground-Anabolics-William-Llewellyn-ebook/dp/B007FN0604/ref=pd_sim_kstore_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=01KR55ES77XX6TX1359H
Will do thanks.
It is unlikely the 5 people will be licensed by the the DEA or other regulatory agency to analyze CS. Why would they risk prosecution for violating AAS /CS laws by receiving 100s of AAS samples per month? Plus you will have dozens of well-funded ugls that will do anything to shut them down
whodatnation
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I love you Millard but damn you deflate ideas so quickly with knowledge and logic. So you believe that this endeavor we are on will take us on the route of using international testing companies so that we can bypass USA regulations ? Once started though the ugl's with there money will start realizing that those pockets aren't so damn long when no one in the community is sending them loads of money for nothing.
Nothing is going to shut up the smear campaign. You are kidding yourself if you think they will do anything but try to protect themselves. It is to be expected. We should ignore them after you get enough people that you trust with bad test results from the p.o.s. suppliers. After that they should go on the avoid list and can go peddle their shit somewhere else.
I am only critical because I want this to work. I really think that an independent, established and licensed lab is the only way to go and it may need to be located outside the United States.
4leafclover
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I like the idea of going to the EU for testing, some countries there have less stricter laws and you might get access to a lab that is very high quality (dependent on that countries standards for licensing). Anything you find in the US may have its license to test steroids revoked if they found out they were testing for outside parties, as has happened to a lab that did so here. But then you do run into international shipping...
I know
graniteman
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Sigh....The problem with what you're presenting vs what I have been saying is that in your example it was legal. It is no longer, it's DEA regulated. When they made it illegal he stopped. Why? The answer to this is my whole point. I agree it's not only a shame but stupid to deny AAS users testing but give crakheads, tweakers and pill poppers access to the same tests. I can absofreakinlutely guarantee NO head of a dept in a university is going to risk a $200,000 plus a year job\benefits not to mention his freedom to help us for a measly 60 bucks a test. Just isn't going to happen
I always take anything from eroids and the owner, big sponsors there as a lie.
Has any one searched for places in mexico?
4leafclover
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This happened less than 2 years ago, pretty sure it was illegal then, as steroids have been illegal for some time now. They didn't do anything that you mentioned, at least he didn't mention a fine. The CEO of the lab did say his license to test steroids was revoked however.
I'm not commenting on the eroids guy, because I have no knowledge, I was merely commenting on what kind of lab would conduct mass specs, and a reputable one and why they would.
mercury
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The only way I see is to setup a GC/MS far away like in Amazon jungle.
It should work for a while until it gets hit by a drone
It should work for a while until it gets hit by a drone
any off shore lab is going to mean possible customs issues when sending them samples and the countries that don't enforce their anti steroid laws tend to be very high risk for mail theft.
Juice n Goose
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What is it you men want from a GC/MS lab? I read Cloverleaf and Millards posts.. The lab that does my testing doesnt f**ck around. They have libraries with just about every compound you can imagine. I talked to my friend there and he has expressed great interest in doing these tests as long as they all come from ONE clearing-house. I have my own sources and would never steer you fellas wrong...Sooner or later we have to do this as a GROUP!!! Tecumsah said"One twig will break. A bundle WILL NOT"
This would be done under the classification of "Education and Harm Reduction"
Do you men agree we should act as "a bundle" or be twigs and keep getting hosed?
I just wanna know if the right lab did EXACTLY as we want...WHOS IN??!!!
Goose
This would be done under the classification of "Education and Harm Reduction"
Do you men agree we should act as "a bundle" or be twigs and keep getting hosed?
I just wanna know if the right lab did EXACTLY as we want...WHOS IN??!!!
Goose
The "ONE clearing-house" is a problem. Is your friend's lab licensed to receive controlled substances. Can they provide public reports on laboratory letterhead?
