Masteron vs primo, to get really lean

[DECLAN]

My goal is get really lean, something Like 8- 10% bodyfat. I’d estimate I’m currently around 18-19%. I know masteron is really quite good for cutting, but my question is am I better off buying primo, so I have some for my next bulk blast, or is mast really that much better at getting you dry, shredded and vascular?

How long are you planning to cut?

I think most of us who never got to sub 10% or contest shape focus too much on anabolics and fat burners. Nobody ever talks about the most obvious problem, how to deal with hunger, lethargy and cravings.

I'm on my 16th week, and I'm just halfway to my goal. At the 8th week, cravings started, by the 12th week mark, energy is zapped and sleep is so disrupted.

Prepare yourself mentally, no drug could help you. Willpower and drive is all you have to rely on.

 

[mdrnico]

Currently running a blend of 100/100 mast/primo that's just phenomenal. Four weeks in and looking better every day.

If I had to choose between one or the other I'd go for Primo.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Currently running a blend of 100/100 mast/primo that's just phenomenal. Four weeks in and looking better every day.

If I had to choose between one or the other I'd go for Primo.

This is different. Have you gotten any bloods? I plan to run mast then switch to primo, then off both or back to mast as a trt plus... only mast solo atm 200 wk, primo ran the same. Mast skews my lipids slightly primo usually doesnt.

 

[mdrnico]

This is different. Have you gotten any bloods? I plan to run mast then switch to primo, then off both or back to mast as a trt plus... only mast solo atm 200 wk, primo ran the same. Mast skews my lipids slightly primo usually doesnt.

Last panel was a week before starting the blend and my follow-up is in two weeks. I'll circle back around then.

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Add some Winnie. Also, for the cut you may want to consider T3 and a diuretic.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Last panel was a week before starting the blend and my follow-up is in two weeks. I'll circle back around then.

Sounds good I may try this. 250 or 200 test, 100 mast/primo

 

[DECLAN]

Add some Winnie. Also, for the cut you may want to consider T3 and a diuretic.

Jesus man, you're suggesting dangerous drugs not really needed by a gym bro. Maybe dial down on these reckless recommendations.

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Jesus man, you're suggesting dangerous drugs not really needed by a gym bro. Maybe dial down on these reckless recommendations.

I would typically recommend Clen, so I am dialing down.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

I would typically recommend Clen, so I am dialing down.

I like eca as a first step. Easily obtained as brokaid.

 

[DECLAN]

I would typically recommend Clen, so I am dialing down.

Diuretics better than clen?

 

[Astartes]

Jesus man, you're suggesting dangerous drugs not really needed by a gym bro. Maybe dial down on these reckless recommendations.

Agree. These are sub 18% BF recommendations with significant gym experience. Unnecessary and he is unlikely to achieve signifiant results

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Diuretics better than clen?

Just to be clear, anything promoted in this forum isn't exactly great nutritional value.

Dude wants to get cut. My recommendations will get you cut.

 

[Astartes]

Just to be clear, anything promoted in this forum isn't exactly great nutritional value.

Dude wants to get cut. My recommendations will get you cut.

Brother. Your pride is sending this guy astray.

Your recommendations will result in muscle catabolization at a greater rate than fat and place him in a deficit he doesn’t understand (because he doesn’t have the basics in place or a working knowledge of how these function) so that when he comes off (after feeling horrible and not understanding the dynamic behind T3 and other diuretics) he will rebound and find it even harder to lose weight.

He will likely repeat and end up increasing dosage for minimal gain and Jack up his metabolism for a year or more. Terrible advice

 

[DECLAN]

Just to be clear, anything promoted in this forum isn't exactly great nutritional value.

Dude wants to get cut. My recommendations will get you cut.

I'm sorry you feel that way about the forum, but your mindset is straying away from harm reduction which should be our main focus as a community.

I get your intentions but your analogy and approach is far from safe and optimal. I would bet my already shrunken nuts that the competitors and some pros will not recommend t3 and much more diuretics.

You need to research more on diuretic use and it's role on the various deaths to competitors recently. Maybe you have experience and got cut with it, but if you read the OP's experience level, you will immediately gauge that he should not be near those compounds yet or maybe ever.

Again, I don't know if your a coach or have cut successfully using such agents but I will be careful on advising people randomly. Everyone knows we can all get down to 10% without the use of hard-core cutting agents used by professional athletes under the guidance of certified coaches or medical professionals.

 

[Texas01]

Maybe look into GLP - 1 agonist. They don't burn fat but for many they make cutting lot easier. I'm on my first run with tirz and I'm honestly blown away with how well it works for me. I've never had an easier time cutting weight. It's magic.

Facts, I’m down 40 pounds

 

[WeightLossBurn]

I'm sorry you feel that way about the forum, but your mindset is straying away from harm reduction which should be our main focus as a community.

I get your intentions but your analogy and approach is far from safe and optimal. I would bet my already shrunken nuts that the competitors and some pros will not recommend t3 and much more diuretics.

You need to research more on diuretic use and it's role on the various deaths to competitors recently. Maybe you have experience and got cut with it, but if you read the OP's experience level, you will immediately gauge that he should not be near those compounds yet or maybe ever.

Again, I don't know if your a coach or have cut successfully using such agents but I will be careful on advising people randomly. Everyone knows we can all get down to 10% without the use of hard-core cutting agents used by professional athletes under the guidance of certified coaches or medical professionals.

You are right. The items I speak of will cut, but they all have their side effects. T3 will give you the sweats and make you shake. Diuretics will dehydrate you in a dangerous way. Clen will cause long term damage to your heart valve. DNP, will make you pour with sweat, you will feel hot in the coldest room, and it will make you crave carbs to the point of being counter productive.

 

[WeightLossBurn]

Facts, I’m down 40 pounds

@UncleBuns @Texas01 . How would you compare tirz to sema?

 

[Astartes]

@UncleBuns @Texas01 . How would you compare tirz to sema?

This is actually fascinating to hear people discuss. The huge Semaglutide thread has tons of this for your gym-time reading enjoyment WLB

 

[y777]

Currently running a blend of 100/100 mast/primo that's just phenomenal. Four weeks in and looking better every day.

If I had to choose between one or the other I'd go for Primo.

how much test are you running ? And is the blend dose you mention the weekly total ? Thx

 

[UncleBuns]

@UncleBuns @Texas01 . How would you compare tirz to sema?

Never tried Sema