Masteron vs primo, to get really lean

[mdrnico]

how much test are you running ? And is the blend dose you mention the weekly total ? Thx

1. 250mg/week
2. Yes and the blend is dosed at 100/100/ML

Any other questions lmk.

 

[Texas01]

Never tried Sema

Neither have I but from what I’ve read, tirzepatide is stronger, more expensive, and people experience less side effects with it

 

[Black90tsi]

I like eca as a first step. Easily obtained as brokaid.

I have used this for over a decade now with good results every time. It's a damn shame we can no longer order straight ephedrine hcl from canada. I always found that gave me a stronger effect and allowed you to slowly titrate up the dose so you don't end up with the jitters right off the bat.

 

[malfeasance]

I’m completely aware that you don’t need heavy androgens in a cut, I’m doing 250 test and 37.5 var right now. That’s probably enough, I just want to get dry, but it takes time and I shouldn’t rush it

I’m gonna keep prioritizing the caloric deficit. What would you recommend for duration of anavar? I am thinking 4 weeks, but maybe 6-8 even.

(1) How many pounds a week are you losing right now? (2) What is your starting weight and your weight right now?

My contest prep starts with test/Deca. Why do you want to be dry right now? Dry/wet is not about fat, right? You are looking for the illusion ("dry") of being leaner without actually being leaner. Get rid of the fat, and you will be shocked how little "water" you have once you are below 10% body fat.

Get your protein high and fats low and then you can put your carbs wherever you need them for your goal. You can make small adjustments whenever you stall (scale weight does not change for a week). You can add cardio, too.

You do not have to make big adjustments. Just a nudge in the right direction, pull out carbs for 200 calories daily or add a little cardio or increase the intensity of the cardio, just a bit. Then see where your weight is in a week. Just keep it simple and make small changes.

That first 8-10 pounds of weight loss is pretty much just water, so that is the point at which you start actually digging in to your fat stores.

 

[Dhc8899]

Eat less, do more cardio. Drugs don't matter.

 

[Cyp180]

My goal is get really lean, something Like 8- 10% bodyfat. I’d estimate I’m currently around 18-19%. I know masteron is really quite good for cutting, but my question is am I better off buying primo, so I have some for my next bulk blast, or is mast really that much better at getting you dry, shredded and vascular?

250mg Testo and less Kcals. start with 500Kcals less(ED) than you eat now

 

[phenominal34]

1. 250mg/week
2. Yes and the blend is dosed at 100/100/ML

Any other questions lmk.

Where are you getting the blend ?

 

[y777]

1. 250mg/week
2. Yes and the blend is dosed at 100/100/ML

Any other questions lmk.

What benefit do you gain from 100 of mast as opposed to running 200 primo on that 250 test ? I assume it’s mast-e ?

thanks

 

[laclark89]

"Dry" at 19% bf means absolutely nothing. There's no such thing as a dry 19%

I'm 6' tall, 235-240 lean, and have been training for over a decade. Never go above like 13-14ish% bf in the offseason.

I do my non-context cutting/health phases with only my trt. I don't lose any muscle.

Any casual user, going into a casual cut, doesn't need anything more than trt for a diet phase. Anything more than that is mostly just going to waste.

I know its all about harm reduction hear, but did any one ask his age or natural testosterone levels, cycle experience ? What if his natural levels are 200 what if they're 900? I I usto recommend start with 1cc, but I think that's a blanket statement. Now I'm starting to think the old school way. Y shut ur self down for just trt unless that's all ur looking for is replacement.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

I know its all about harm reduction hear, but did any one ask his age or natural testosterone levels, cycle experience ? What if his natural levels are 200 what if they're 900? I I usto recommend start with 1cc, but I think that's a blanket statement. Now I'm starting to think the old school way. Y shut ur self down for just trt unless that's all ur looking for is replacement.

We've come a long why that's why an initial bloodiest is recommended and there's tons of companies available. You get a baseline. A trt plus for one can send another off the charts

 

[tgoat1970]

I know its all about harm reduction hear, but did any one ask his age or natural testosterone levels, cycle experience ? What if his natural levels are 200 what if they're 900? I I usto recommend start with 1cc, but I think that's a blanket statement. Now I'm starting to think the old school way. Y shut ur self down for just trt unless that's all ur looking for is replacement.

I’m on 250 tes e right now. Last time I got bloods on 75mg trt my total t was 740, this was 3 days after last injection of 25mg, I was very surprised.

 

[laclark89]

"Dry" at 19% bf means absolutely nothing. There's no such thing as a dry 19%

I'm 6' tall, 235-240 lean, and have been training for over a decade. Never go above like 13-14ish% bf in the offseason.

I do my non-context cutting/health phases with only my trt. I don't lose any muscle.

Any casual user, going into a casual cut, doesn't need anything more than trt for a diet phase. Anything more than that is mostly just going to waste.

I’m on 250 tes e right now. Last time I got bloods on 75mg trt my total t was 740, this was 3 days after last injection of 25mg, I was very surprised.

Thats impressive, I wasent really trying to questions big tom I'm sure he probably knows more than me. I was half asleep reading this I dident see u post numbers. I simply ment to implying everyone responds different and it's hard to say enless u have more info, imo.

 

[BigTomJ]

Thats impressive, I wasent really trying to questions big tom I'm sure he probably knows more than me. I was half asleep reading this I dident see u post numbers. I simply ment to implying everyone responds different and it's hard to say enless u have more info, imo.

I was commenting in the context of harm reduction.

The first part of my post is that chasing "dry" is meaningless at higher bf and shouldn't be the focus.

Second part is that most people GROSSLY overestimate their potential for catabolism, and thing they need all these drugs and all these orals just for a simply, moderate bf cut.
99% of people, for non contest dieting, don't need anything more than trt to hold onto their muscle.

 

[tgoat1970]

Thats impressive, I wasent really trying to questions big tom I'm sure he probably knows more than me. I was half asleep reading this I dident see u post numbers. I simply ment to implying everyone responds different and it's hard to say enless u have more info, imo.

100% man. Everyone’s genetics are different

 

[malfeasance]

I’m on 250 tes e right now. Last time I got bloods on 75mg trt my total t was 740, this was 3 days after last injection of 25mg, I was very surprised.

100% man. Everyone’s genetics are different

So how is your cut going? How many pounds lost so far?

 

[Scruf]

Maybe look into GLP - 1 agonist. They don't burn fat but for many they make cutting lot easier. I'm on my first run with tirz and I'm honestly blown away with how well it works for me. I've never had an easier time cutting weight. It's magic.

Completely agree. I have lost 50lbs with Tirz. I call it the "appetite eraser"

 

[Lumberjack]

OP, you might consider looking around for a decent coach. They will take the guess work out of the diet, they can tell you when peds might come into play, and you get an accountability aspect that can make all the difference. I'm sure guys on here could make some recommendations on a good coach.

 

[Pulpfiction]

Have you ever tried tirzepatide or semiglutide ? At 19 bodyfat I’d grab some of that and follow the protocol for subq injections with it. An eca stack might do you better at the moment than dht compounds. Get the body fat down then you can see the affects of drying out.

 

[malfeasance]

My goal is get really lean, something Like 8- 10% bodyfat. I’d estimate I’m currently around 18-19%. I know masteron is really quite good for cutting, but my question is am I better off buying primo, so I have some for my next bulk blast, or is mast really that much better at getting you dry, shredded and vascular?

In six days it will have been a month since you created this thread. What have you done, and how many pounds have you lost?

 

[Turbo charged]

"Dry" at 19% bf means absolutely nothing. There's no such thing as a dry 19%

I'm 6' tall, 235-240 lean, and have been training for over a decade. Never go above like 13-14ish% bf in the offseason.

I do my non-context cutting/health phases with only my trt. I don't lose any muscle.

Any casual user, going into a casual cut, doesn't need anything more than trt for a diet phase. Anything more than that is mostly just going to waste.

Winstrol is by far the best drug for this period. You need to eat good chicken fish rice veggies every meal and egg whites stay strict and the winny will bring you to the promise land first.