Meso Powerlifting Corner

[RodgerThat]

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks RT. I've been making steady strength gains all around still, just want sure if adding volume with deads was viable at this point. But the bands will definitely come into play when that plateau does inevitably hit.

By chance, would they (band lifts) be worth adding even if I'm making gains still? As a way to get faster off the ground?

What's your current progression rate? I would add bands in when you aren't able to achieve 5lb increase on working weight each week. The way I currently incorporate bands is going to my working weight and if it isn't moving like I'd want it to I just back off to 60% add the band in and do speed work as it's less taxing then heavy work and will help my next session. I'm not on anything incredibly structured right now anymore though just testing tons of different things out

 

[Evilest-ninja]

What's your current progression rate? I would add bands in when you aren't able to achieve 5lb increase on working weight each week. The way I currently incorporate bands is going to my working weight and if it isn't moving like I'd want it to I just back off to 60% add the band in and do speed work as it's less taxing then heavy work and will help my next session. I'm not on anything incredibly structured right now anymore though just testing tons of different things out

Do you usually use bands from the floor or reverse bands?

 

[NovaFlex]

What's your current progression rate? I would add bands in when you aren't able to achieve 5lb increase on working weight each week. The way I currently incorporate bands is going to my working weight and if it isn't moving like I'd want it to I just back off to 60% add the band in and do speed work as it's less taxing then heavy work and will help my next session. I'm not on anything incredibly structured right now anymore though just testing tons of different things out

To be honest with you, I don't have any sort of progression rate with DL at the moment, because I've been focusing alot on bench, since it was super weak... today was my first heavy DL session in 3 weeks. I've been doing a ton of accessory work though--- Heavy T bar rows, Bent over rows, pendlays, etc. I'm just now getting back into regularly doing deads.

I seem to be working really easily with 405. So I'll start progression from there next week. Does that sound decent?

 

[RodgerThat]

Do you usually use bands from the floor or reverse bands?

Bands from the floor I never do reverse bands just to much effort to set up. Band from floor is one band and super easy to set up.

To be honest with you, I don't have any sort of progression rate with DL at the moment, because I've been focusing alot on bench, since it was super weak... today was my first heavy DL session in 3 weeks. I've been doing a ton of accessory work though--- Heavy T bar rows, Bent over rows, pendlays, etc. I'm just now getting back into regularly doing deads.

I seem to be working really easily with 405. So I'll start progression from there next week. Does that sound decent?

oh ya for sure if ou aren't regularly doing them stick to the meats and patatos and just work on your deadlift and form then when it stalls pull out the bag of tricks

 

[Evilest-ninja]

True reverse bands seems a bit tedious. I suppose either way it just serves to make it harder at the top?

 

[RodgerThat]

True reverse bands seems a bit tedious. I suppose either way it just serves to make it harder at the top?

Yes but reverse bands would be better for overload training were from the ground is better for speed training

 

[Evilest-ninja]

Yes but reverse bands would be better for overload training were from the ground is better for speed training

Ok, that makes sense thinking about it.

 

[Dw725]

I'll be the bad guy here and say I train with straps. I have shoulder problems and even alternating my supinated and pronated hands, using mixed grip regularly irritates the fuck out of them. To be fair though, I do A LOT of other work to make up for my deadlift not training grip. Weighted pull ups, heavy t bar rows with fat grips, heavy cleans, and all the myriad of other pulling movements, and we have a grip machine u can load plates on, if you've ever seen one u know what I'm talking about. With all that added, I've done mock meets with friends and gym rivals and could always pull my max with chalk and mixed grip, I just won't train that way. So to sum up, you can train with straps. And you'll catch shit from some guys. But u gotta do plenty of other work to make up for it and be able to outlift them on the spot without straps to make up for it.

 

[RandallNowan]

Do you think there's any benefit to farmer carries with fat grips?

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I don't think I could do farmer's carries with fat grips. Even standard dumbbell grips seem too fat as is. A buddy at the gym has those strongman suitcase things and they have smaller diameter grips and I was able to carry 210-240lbs each hand for distance. I tried 100lb dumbbells in the gym and could barely do anything with them. I'd consider my grip very strong, but any bigger than a barbell and it's dramatically reduced.

 

[RandallNowan]

I couldn't believe how hard the fat gripz make things! The guy who makes them has told me that if I send him a video of me deadlifting 365lbs with the fat gripz on then he'll send me a personalised set, free!

 

[RandallNowan]

I really need to get working on that...

 

[RodgerThat]

I couldn't believe how hard the fat gripz make things! The guy who makes them has told me that if I send him a video of me deadlifting 365lbs with the fat gripz on then he'll send me a personalised set, free!

Anyway I can get that deal? I pulled 315 mixed grip with them but since then I haven't even touched them.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I couldn't believe how hard the fat gripz make things! The guy who makes them has told me that if I send him a video of me deadlifting 365lbs with the fat gripz on then he'll send me a personalised set, free!

I'd like to believe I could do that, but I've never tried those before except maybe curls once. We have an axle bar at my gym. The barbell is the same diameter as the sleeves. I believe it weighs 80-85lbs.

 

[RandallNowan]

@RodgerThat, maybe... See if you can do it first! My best was about 310, too.
@Perrin Aybara I found, when trying to deadlift with them, that is isn't even (just) how it fucks up the grip of your hands, it's that you can't even get your wrists into the right position! Job's tough before you even start.

 

[Dw725]

Farmers carries are bad ass. I love the crazy pump they give me , fore arms, bis, tris, shoulders and traps all get pumped at the same time and I look way bigger and more jacked than I actually am lol, and yea theyre an excellent grip builder. Idk if I could do them with the fat grips for long tho, or I'd have to drop the weight way down.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I doubt you'd get that pump being forced to carry 40's because of the fat grips. Those heavy carries do get the shoulder and trap veins popping though.

 

[Dw725]

I doubt you'd get that pump being forced to carry 40's because of the fat grips. Those heavy carries do get the shoulder and trap veins popping though.

Haha yea I think the fat grips kind of defeat the purpose for those. It's just as taxing on grip to go good and heavy plus the stimulation for the rest of the musculature is better as well

 

[Evilest-ninja]

I think my grip would tank before the rest of my body would get worked.
I use CoC grippers for rip work as needed.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I think my grip would tank before the rest of my body would get worked.
I use CoC grippers for rip work as needed.

How do you like those? I've considered them, but thus far grip has never been an issue for me.