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UncleB said:
When close to a meet, I try to emulate meet conditions as much as possible. Squat stands, 3 spotters, and an asshole judge...
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I don't have the resources to emulate meet conditions that closely, I wish I did. I just imagine the commands in my head and film squats for depth. Do the best with what I have.

Melly Mel from hell said:
I started a monster cycle and block 29. Happy new year!!!
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I think you'll have a good time with it. I'm curious to see the progress from a veteran lifter new to powerlifting on a monster cycle, too.
 
Perrin Aybara said:
I don't have the resources to emulate meet conditions that closely, I wish I did. I just imagine the commands in my head and film squats for depth. Do the best with what I
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Most lifters train alone in commercial gyms or at home and do what they have to to get by. OTOH, PL really is a fraternity. I'd do most anything to help anyone who I thought was serious, regardless of experience or level, because I know they'd do the same for me. Maybe you can find some guys in a nearby gym and are prepping for the same meet who will judge and spot for you a few times.

What really makes a difference for me is using real racks instead of a cage. Getting the weight off my back when I'm done requires much greater accuracy, and I can't rely on the familiar clanking sounds to tell me where to drop it. It shouldn't matter that much, but it does. Some kind of psychological / pussy thing, I suppose, so if I can I spend some time getting used to them.
 
UncleB said:
Most lifters train alone in commercial gyms or at home and do what they have to to get by. OTOH, PL really is a fraternity. I'd do most anything to help anyone who I thought was serious, regardless of experience or level, because I know they'd do the same for me. Maybe you can find some guys in a nearby gym and are prepping for the same meet who will judge and spot for you a few times.

What really makes a difference for me is using real racks instead of a cage. Getting the weight off my back when I'm done requires much greater accuracy, and I can't rely on the familiar clanking sounds to tell me where to drop it. It shouldn't matter that much, but it does. Some kind of psychological / pussy thing, I suppose, so if I can I spend some time getting used to them.
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There's a group of three at my gym (only gym in town) that does strongman, they'd be the best bet if we're there at the same time. Otherwise I'll have to have my girl and my workout partner take a shot at it. I've done deadlifts with the strongman group before, always a good time. Just not many competitors around here at all.
 
Find a bodybuilder and twist his gyno-inflamed teat until he agrees to spot you. It's not true that they're all pussies, though, so be careful - about half of the two or three percent that are heterosexual might take a slap or two to get 'em in line.
 
UncleB said:
Find a bodybuilder and twist his gyno-inflamed teat until he agrees to spot you. It's not true that they're all pussies, though, so be careful - about half of the two or three percent that are heterosexual might take a slap or two to get 'em in line.
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This is an incredible weird post and I've read it over and over, from what I'm gathering you assume all people who care about BBing instead of powerlifting are homosexual and the 3% that aren't you should beat into submission :confused: I'm not sure if you are aware of this but BB and PL are incredible similar and require equal amounts of dedication and discipline, if you can't respect what it takes to be a body builder I put serious doubt into how good of a PLer you are. Just my .02cents in a pissed off mood I suppose
 
Jokes are, theoretically, funny. Unless the reader is into non-consentual sex with male goats, of course. Those guys have no sense of humor at all, right?
 
UncleB said:
Jokes are, theoretically, funny. Unless the reader is into non-consentual sex with male goats, of course. Those guys have no sense of humor at all, right?
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I lol'd from your comment^ [emoji1], my sense of humor is typically judged by others.
 
Strength and Power said:
Wanted to give a thank you to RodgerThat for showing me the link to this forum. Glad to be aboard with fellow powerlifters. I have skimmed through the pages, and it's great to be among many like minded individuals.
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Welcome. From what Ive already seen youll be an asset here.
Also be careful of @RodgerThat. Nice dude, smart, great lifter...but he's also a bear. A bear who deadlifts. They cant be trusted. I wouldnt leave a picnic basket lying around either. Im just sayin.
 
jaymaximus said:
Welcome. From what Ive already seen youll be an asset here.
Also be careful of @RodgerThat. Nice dude, smart, great lifter...but he's also a bear. A bear who deadlifts. They cant be trusted. I wouldnt leave a picnic basket lying around either. Im just sayin.
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Thank you for the kind words, and welcome. I hope to assist whenever I am able, and learn from the fellow members as well. As for being a bear...nothing wrong with that.
 
Perrin Aybara said:
What's your training like? I'm sure it's beyond cookie cutter programs, but what's it based on?
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Since I have been training this past year for raw strength, I have been programming with a modified form of traditional concurrent periodization. Not the so called concurrent popularized by Louie Simmons at westside barbell. My macrocycles typically last for a period of 3 months, broken into 3 mesos. The first block typically lasts between 3-4 weeks, and is used to implement different trainings means other than the specific, and general specific exercises I will use during the remaining 2 blocks. This block is focused on gaining working function, and general volume in the primary working systems of the competition lifts. Many fail to actually implement this block because they feel their numbers suffer. Although it is possible that performance may slightly drop during this block, it is important to allow yourself time away from the heavy comp movements to heal. This block allows rest and repair of many physiological systems. (Injury prevention in the long term) Where as many will actually spend a LARGE amount of time in the block because hypertrophy training is commonly utilized here (and who doesn't like more muscle mass for aesthetic reasons),but performance will drop significantly. Nuerological efficiency in sporting form will degrade when long periods of time are spend away from the comp movements. Sorry about that short rant. Lol. The second block of training runs anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks, and I begin putting in comp movements, and multiple general specific movements aimed at improving different ranges of the comp movements. During this block, and the final realization block I have been using rpe based training, and a form of autoregulation made popular by Mike T. During the second block of training I typically program reps of 4,5, and an occasional 6. I keep a relative intensity of 76 - 86 % during this block for each exercise. I train 4 days a week, and on 2 additional off days, I will focus on mobility/flexibility, and maybe (just maybe) throw in some biceps training. I have found that doing so has helped alleviate elbow pain during my pressing movements. During my final block I use specific movements, usually the comp movements themselves, and the general intensity is between 86-92%. I also drop my workouts to 3 days per week beginning week 10. I hope this write up made sense of my training.
 
Strength and Power said:
Since I have been training this past year for raw strength, I have been programming with a modified form of traditional concurrent periodization. Not the so called concurrent popularized by Louie Simmons at westside barbell. My macrocycles typically last for a period of 3 months, broken into 3 mesos. The first block typically lasts between 3-4 weeks, and is used to implement different trainings means other than the specific, and general specific exercises I will use during the remaining 2 blocks. This block is focused on gaining working function, and general volume in the primary working systems of the competition lifts. Many fail to actually implement this block because they feel their numbers suffer. Although it is possible that performance may slightly drop during this block, it is important to allow yourself time away from the heavy comp movements to heal. This block allows rest and repair of many physiological systems. (Injury prevention in the long term) Where as many will actually spend a LARGE amount of time in the block because hypertrophy training is commonly utilized here (and who doesn't like more muscle mass for aesthetic reasons),but performance will drop significantly. Nuerological efficiency in sporting form will degrade when long periods of time are spend away from the comp movements. Sorry about that short rant. Lol. The second block of training runs anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks, and I begin putting in comp movements, and multiple general specific movements aimed at improving different ranges of the comp movements. During this block, and the final realization block I have been using rpe based training, and a form of autoregulation made popular by Mike T. During the second block of training I typically program reps of 4,5, and an occasional 6. I keep a relative intensity of 76 - 86 % during this block for each exercise. I train 4 days a week, and on 2 additional off days, I will focus on mobility/flexibility, and maybe (just maybe) throw in some biceps training. I have found that doing so has helped alleviate elbow pain during my pressing movements. During my final block I use specific movements, usually the comp movements themselves, and the general intensity is between 86-92%. I also drop my workouts to 3 days per week beginning week 10. I hope this write up made sense of my training.
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Isn't that kinda what block periodization is?
 
Strength and Power said:
Since I have been training this past year for raw strength, I have been programming with a modified form of traditional concurrent periodization. Not the so called concurrent popularized by Louie Simmons at westside barbell. My macrocycles typically last for a period of 3 months, broken into 3 mesos. The first block typically lasts between 3-4 weeks, and is used to implement different trainings means other than the specific, and general specific exercises I will use during the remaining 2 blocks. This block is focused on gaining working function, and general volume in the primary working systems of the competition lifts. Many fail to actually implement this block because they feel their numbers suffer. Although it is possible that performance may slightly drop during this block, it is important to allow yourself time away from the heavy comp movements to heal. This block allows rest and repair of many physiological systems. (Injury prevention in the long term) Where as many will actually spend a LARGE amount of time in the block because hypertrophy training is commonly utilized here (and who doesn't like more muscle mass for aesthetic reasons),but performance will drop significantly. Nuerological efficiency in sporting form will degrade when long periods of time are spend away from the comp movements. Sorry about that short rant. Lol. The second block of training runs anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks, and I begin putting in comp movements, and multiple general specific movements aimed at improving different ranges of the comp movements. During this block, and the final realization block I have been using rpe based training, and a form of autoregulation made popular by Mike T. During the second block of training I typically program reps of 4,5, and an occasional 6. I keep a relative intensity of 76 - 86 % during this block for each exercise. I train 4 days a week, and on 2 additional off days, I will focus on mobility/flexibility, and maybe (just maybe) throw in some biceps training. I have found that doing so has helped alleviate elbow pain during my pressing movements. During my final block I use specific movements, usually the comp movements themselves, and the general intensity is between 86-92%. I also drop my workouts to 3 days per week beginning week 10. I hope this write up made sense of my training.
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What type of exercises do you do in that first block?
 
ruckin said:
Isn't that kinda what block periodization is?
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The conjugate sequence model of training is more commonly known as block periodization. So I would say you nailed it bro :) the conjugate method is of Simmons design, taking various methods of training from his research and making his own model. Sounds like you are fimilar wth block?
 
Perrin Aybara said:
What type of exercises do you do in that first block?
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Each cycle is different, but I use many dumbbell movements. I of course still use some barbell movements. Front squat, occasional high bar, overhead press, etc. I use what most would consider mass or hypertrophy style work. If I have an area that has given me trouble in my prior macro, I will focus on strengthening that area as well.
 
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