Meso Powerlifting Corner

I realize I'm significantly younger then you J but I was told I'd never be able to lift weights at one point and that I wouldn't be able to touch my toes again or bend properly but after a lot of stretching and regular yoga (lots of attractive girls in yoga classes just saying and a lot of the time the instructors look like @Devika ) I gained the flexibility I needed and then some. Just took a while and I had to treat flexibility as if it was in itself an actual workout and have a plan and goals of what I wanted to do, my starting goal after the injury was to be able to bend over straight legged and touch my knees... My current goal is now to be able to do hurdle splits cold so that's how far I've come.

The knees though I do get that and I get that years in your line of work might be a bit hard on them but don't let flexibility be the reason to stop you from squatting and like Perrin said even if you become a push/pull guy still work on your squats because quads play a roll in both deadlift and bench when done correctly

Im still working it. Just thinking ahead. The physical therapist has me doing 2 days of "power" stretching and 2 days of yoga a week. Its embarassing how flexible Im not. I havent stretched regularly since I was 180, and I just hit 250 last week :oops:
 
Im still working it. Just thinking ahead. The physical therapist has me doing 2 days of "power" stretching and 2 days of yoga a week. Its embarassing how flexible Im not. I havent stretched regularly since I was 180, and I just hit 250 last week :oops:

Shit you got to 250 congratz man! That was eluding you for a bit there eh. Ya I definitely break the typical stereotype on this one being 5'8 200lb now and doing the splits I get some odd looks for sure
 
Shit you got to 250 congratz man! That was eluding you for a bit there eh. Ya I definitely break the typical stereotype on this one being 5'8 200lb now and doing the splits I get some odd looks for sure

Yea. Its crazy. Im on a mild cruise / cycle and eating less. Once I dropped the tren the weight came quick.

On a side note: Im one and done with the tren. I only did one vial and Ill never touch it again. I thought superdrol was bad, but tren had me feeling like death was coming.
 
Yea. Its crazy. Im on a mild cruise / cycle and eating less. Once I dropped the tren the weight came quick.

On a side note: Im one and done with the tren. I only did one vial and Ill never touch it again. I thought superdrol was bad, but tren had me feeling like death was coming.
how much tren were you using that made you feel that shitty?
 
Jay, my squat has been hampered by knee issues for years. I have had 1 reconstructive surgery and a scope on my left knee and a lot of mileage on both knees and ankles due to wrestling and the marines. Adding some kind of cardio seemed to help a bit. I used a rowing machine.

Next i changed my knee wraps. I was using sissy wraps after 400 prior to yesterday, but had been having problems the whole workout. Nothing sucks the life out of a squat workout like knee pain. Well, maybe back pain is worse, but i digress. 135 - yea that is annoyingly painful on the knees, 225 - still sucks and is uncomfortable, 315 - same deal, 365 - maybe i'm warm by now. Well , i got tired of it and tried the slingshot bands i have seen talked about a bit on here. Fucking A, where have these been for the past 10 years? I put the damn things on 5 minutes prior to working out and bee bop around the house. 135 - easy peasey. 225 - holy crap my knees are sweating and warm as hell. 315 - damn, this is the best my knees have felt in years.

Ok, so maybe mileage will vary on this, but for guys who have a hard time getting their joints warmed up i highly recommend the slingshot knee wraps. Biggest single piece of equipment that has helped me in a long time. My belt is cool too, but that was a purchase 26 years ago. I went from having to slather my knees in icy hot and downing 4 naprosyn to squat to needing nothing but the wraps. Just not having the nagging crap in the background has given me room to grow again. Whatever i lost in support from the titan wraps i gained in confidence and getting warmed up. The slingshots won't take the place of serious wraps, but i am damn sure keeping them in my toolbox from now on. Hell, i might buy a second pair in case they quit making them.
 
Only 400mg/wk
Yea. Im a pussy. It was one that came up over on anaboliclabs. But still.
I was also doing a gram of test, 600mg EQ, and 12.5 mg/day of sdrol. So the combo didnt help.
oh. Well that's a decent amount. I'm planning to try 175/wk for my first time with it. I'm desperately trying to avoid negative mental sides for my first time and find where my threshold is.
 
oh. Well that's a decent amount. I'm planning to try 175/wk for my first time with it. I'm desperately trying to avoid negative mental sides for my first time and find where my threshold is.

I had a bottle given to me awhile back and if/when I decide to try it I'm going to do something similar. I've had very bad reactions to a few street and prescription drugs in the past in terms of mental sides and I prefer to be cautious these days.
 
I had a bottle given to me awhile back and if/when I decide to try it I'm going to do something similar. I've had very bad reactions to a few street and prescription drugs in the past in terms of mental sides and I prefer to be cautious these days.
Exactly. I'm not willing to ruin my personal relationships for some body recomp. If 175 works well without sides then maybe I'd up it to ~250 next time.
 
Exactly. I'm not willing to ruin my personal relationships for some body recomp. If 175 works well without sides then maybe I'd up it to ~250 next time.

I think it was Pete Rubish that made a video saying how tren ruined his relationship with his girlfriend. I'm not willing to do that either. I've done it due to substances in the past. I'm getting married next year, can't jeopardize that.
 
oh. Well that's a decent amount. I'm planning to try 175/wk for my first time with it. I'm desperately trying to avoid negative mental sides for my first time and find where my threshold is.

I really didnt get any mental sides. No rage. No tren boners either. But I had appetite loss. It was more than loss, I just wasnt hungry at all.

And I just felt sick all day. It took me a second to realize it was the tren and something else.

When sdrol sucks you feel it on the outside. Muscle aches. Back hurts. Etc.

With tren it was all inside.
 
Exactly. I'm not willing to ruin my personal relationships for some body recomp. If 175 works well without sides then maybe I'd up it to ~250 next time.

I started out with tren e at 350mg ew which was a mistake because I didn't realize it would trigger my youth insomnia again. But since then I did tren A at 525mg ew and currently on tren e 600mg (hasn't kicked in yet) everyone handles tren a bit different but for myself there's no way it would wreck a relationship it makes me happier and more outgoing no negative emotional sides, my only sides are sleep issues and not being able to eat as much as I want easily.

That all being said this will also be my final run with tren, the strength gainz are great but I don't want to become a full on insomniac again for half the year. Test EQ dbol for bulking and test mast var for cutting after this cycle is done
 
I started out with tren e at 350mg ew which was a mistake because I didn't realize it would trigger my youth insomnia again. But since then I did tren A at 525mg ew and currently on tren e 600mg (hasn't kicked in yet) everyone handles tren a bit different but for myself there's no way it would wreck a relationship it makes me happier and more outgoing no negative emotional sides, my only sides are sleep issues and not being able to eat as much as I want easily.

That all being said this will also be my final run with tren, the strength gainz are great but I don't want to become a full on insomniac again for half the year. Test EQ dbol for bulking and test mast var for cutting after this cycle is done
That's good to know. I doubt I'll be a dick on it cause I'm always happy and calm and have a lot of self control, but I won't know for sure til I try it obviously. So I want to be cautous.
 
Question for my fellow PL'ers (especially @Masters Power):

Short background:
As we all know I stress off my squats and getting low enough. I had a major back injury many years ago and some knees that have gotten progressively worse.

Because of my job I have access to a personal trainer and physical therapist who Ive been working with on form and flexibility lately. While Im getting better, the PT says I may never be able to get as low as I want to.

I still want to compete, but it may end up just being bench and DL.

So FINALLY to my question:
How should I change my training? Should I keep it the same (because I do like squats) or change it to focus less on squats and more on DL?

Continue squatting Jay. Even if you are a little short of parallel you will gain plenty of benefits from squatting. I will need both knees replaced within the next 10 years. I can hit depth, barely, up to around 350, anything heavier I'm about an inch high. My knees just won't stand up to a full meet training cycle in order to compete full power.

Doctors have told me squatting is okay as long as you can handle the pain and the extra muscle carried in your quads and hamstrings actually helps to stabilize the knees so I would stick with it.
 
I have a friend who had BOTH knees replaced and he's one of the strongest squatters I know. He's definitely a freak and an outlier but it can be done.

I have a feeling I will be a better squatter once my right knee (which will be the first) gets replaced. Pain and swelling just make squatting heavy more than once ever couple of weeks impossible and you aren't going to make much progress squatting heavy only twice a month.
 
I'm officially a member of the 4 plate deadlift club today. Never thought I'd be able to pick up this much weight in my 40's. Getting to 5 might take a little bit.

Congratulations my man it's a big day! Treat yo self to a nice meal and your fine lady because you'll remember the first day you pulled 4 plates.
 
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