My PCT Journal to kickstart HPTA post HRT

BigAk said:
Yeah... you may be right eeso.... That's what my wife says.... I think the reason is that I have no visual aspect as to what my hormone levels at any given time. Therefore, I rely too much on how I'm feeling. I'll be doing blood work towards the end of next week.

your wife and chap are right bigak... but that's cool. when this is all over, everyone here will back you up when you blame it on the clomid;)

still following,
van
 
Day 24:

Today has been a good day overall. No anxiety and no depression. I didn't even feel lazy in the morning which leads me to believe that my slugishness the past few days was caused by St. John's Wort. Since I stopped it yesterday, this morning I was a different person; in terms of mood and energy.

I didn't have libido urges today, but I spent a really busy day at work and then meeting friends for dinner..

Overall... I think I feel like things are getting better and I'm having more good times than bad times.
 
I should probably state that a small percentage of the population has the reverse effect from st johns wort. ie it makes u more anxious and stressed rather than reducing it. Odd.
 
Yeah... I don't know why I'm different... But, I just didn't feel right on St. John's Wort.. The stuff just messed me up mood wise and energy wise.
 
BigAk:

Did your doctor prescribe you these medications? My doctor seems to be very hesitant about putting me on this protocol. It looks like Anabolic Pharma has everything I need online. Due to the successful treatment of yourself and Chap, I am very motivated to begin the protocol myself.
 
BigAk said:
Yeah... I don't know why I'm different... But, I just didn't feel right on St. John's Wort.. The stuff just messed me up mood wise and energy wise.

You might want to try SAM-e instead, which increases dopamine, rather than seratonin. SAM-e gives me a great sense of wellbeing & improved energy. I take one 400mg enterically coated tablet on an empty stomach 1/2-1hr before breakfast & feel happy & energetic all day. Its effects are very powerful in me.
 
bigcat10 said:
BigAk:

Did your doctor prescribe you these medications? My doctor seems to be very hesitant about putting me on this protocol. It looks like Anabolic Pharma has everything I need online. Due to the successful treatment of yourself and Chap, I am very motivated to begin the protocol myself.
No bigcat... My doctor was very skeptical when I mentioned to him the treatment.. I didn't want to waste time. I had to act on my own.

Liquid research serms seem to be very popular and they do the job very well.
 
SprintR said:
You might want to try SAM-e instead, which increases dopamine, rather than seratonin. SAM-e gives me a great sense of wellbeing & improved energy. I take one 400mg enterically coated tablet on an empty stomach 1/2-1hr before breakfast & feel happy & energetic all day. Its effects are very powerful in me.
I'm not sure I want to try anything right now.... I'm feeling better and better by the day.. Thank God!!
 
SprintR said:
You might want to try SAM-e instead, which increases dopamine, rather than seratonin. SAM-e gives me a great sense of wellbeing & improved energy. I take one 400mg enterically coated tablet on an empty stomach 1/2-1hr before breakfast & feel happy & energetic all day. Its effects are very powerful in me.


I wasn't sure that st johns wort acted on seratonin? I know 5-htp is basically seratonin, but he wasn't on that.

I'd love to try SAM-e but it's so expensive. I like taking l-tyrosine which is like a dopamine precurser supplement though, and it's cheap.
 
Day 25:

Today started out just fine... No anxiety and no trouble. Then I read a thread of someone who's been on AAS for years and the troubles he's had getting normal again... Suddenly I was in a very bad mood... I think his story impacted me negatively. It took me a good part of the day and a nap to shake the bad mood. I think I need to avoid bad stories that can discourage me and stifle my good efforts here. I mean; just last night, I was so happy I felt great... had dinner with friends and was joking and living happily. Today, merely reading someone's else's circumstance put me in a very bad mood.

That, and I think I am coming down with a cold. I felt low energy most of the day until after my nap. My nose is stopped up, ears stopped up, and my throat is scratchy........ I hope this cold won't degrade my recovery in any way..

Oh.. This morning I was easily able to obtain an erection and successfully ejaculated. However, my libido is still very low.

Today marks an exact a month and a half since my last intake of external testosterone (200mg of test enth).. I am happy about the fact that I feel good and, no depression, and no anxiety. I just wish I didn't have to read that negative story this morning... :)
 
Hey guys... Due to my Cold, I'm having a slight headache.. Would taking some Motrin interfere with the Clomid/Nolva function?? I don't want to do anything that may compromise my recovery efforts.
 
Day 26:

Not sure what to say about today.. I felt shitty all day, but I don't know if it's caused by the Cold or hormonal. My cold is bad today though... My head feels so stuffy, my nose dripping, and my voice is very scratchy. Also my energy level is very low. I just really didn't need this added to the mix of everything else. Now, I can't assess what's causing me to feel terrible.

I'm going to take some theraflu and hit the sack early. Hopefully, I'll recover by tomorrow.
 
I got sick too this week, and as it came on I actually paniced and took a nolvadex cap thinking that it might work as a bit of a booster and reminder to my hpta to stay strong and not age :)

got the cold anyway, major head cold, sometimes you just can't avoid it

stay the course I say

I remember when Dan Duchaine used to stay on nolvadex 365 days a year saying it was a safe 'natural' way to have higher test year round.
 
chap said:
I got sick too this week, and as it came on I actually paniced and took a nolvadex cap thinking that it might work as a bit of a booster and reminder to my hpta to stay strong and not age :)

got the cold anyway, major head cold, sometimes you just can't avoid it

stay the course I say

I remember when Dan Duchaine used to stay on nolvadex 365 days a year saying it was a safe 'natural' way to have higher test year round.
Sorry to hear about your illness chap.. How are you feeling today??

My only concern is that my cold is pushing me backward is term of my recovery. I just don't have a clue if I'm feeling bad due to this cold or my recovery.

Yeah.. I also remember reading Duchaine's comment about year-around Nolvadex. :)
 
Don't worry about it mate - you'll be right in a couple of days.

If you're that worried about it, just extend your recovery protocol for the number of days that u are sick.
 
I dont see how the cold can push back recovery.

Many people get sick, many people get sick after a cycle too when immune system is low.

All that will pass bro and try and not look at things that will make you fearfull.
It will all be good in the end, trust me.
 
hackskii said:
I dont see how the cold can push back recovery.

Many people get sick, many people get sick after a cycle too when immune system is low.

All that will pass bro and try and not look at things that will make you fearfull.
It will all be good in the end, trust me.
HACKSKII..... I was wondering where you were this weekend bro...... I had a shitty weekend myself and needed your encouragement. I'm glad you're here today though... :)
 
Day 27:

Today was pretty easy all day long... I slept realllly hard last night.. sweated some fever, then woke up refreshed. Although I'm still not over the cold, I think I'm feeling much better today. I had a productive work day, and took it easy.

This morning though, I had that ol' pop quiz feeling again... See; all the terrible feeling I had during the weekend caused this. I had mixed feeling as to why I felt pretty bad... Was it the cold or is it my recovery. Suddenly I made a decision to get some bloodwork drawn. I thought this was the only true way in guaging my actual recovery progress.

My libido is on vacation still... That's expected with all the shit happening to me.

I have decided to reduce my clomid dose to 75mg/day today and for the rest of the 3 days left. Then I'm going to taper off the clomid throughout next week. I'm hoping that reducing the clomid dose will probably enhance my mood a bit.

Testes size is good... even better than when on the HCG two weeks ago.

I will be doing more blood work towards the end of the program... I know it's an expense... But.... sometimes a man will do anything for a piece of mind. Just the fact that I'm heading blindfoldedly is enough to cause me anxiety. Those blood tests are about 80 bucks a pop (no insurance)... I had to do it this way cause my doctor won't help me with the protocol.

Anyways.... That's all the update for today... I am going to take some theraflu and hit the sack early again tonight...
 
BigAk said:
HACKSKII..... I was wondering where you were this weekend bro...... I had a shitty weekend myself and needed your encouragement. I'm glad you're here today though... :)

Well, when we were getting e-mail notifications I was in the loop every day.
Now, we dont get them.
sorry for not being there for ya bro.


Those nuts are a good sign that they are doing their job.
Maybe they are just a bit lazy after their layoff.

Do you take ZMA at night before bed?
Or zinc and magnesium?

Just checking.

Beings as you are sick, that zinc could come in handy.
Oh, your sickness will not slow your rocovery or hinder your success.
 
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