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Cause of no results?

  • Bad training program

    Votes: 10 22.2%
  • Poor nutrition

    Votes: 22 48.9%
  • Lack of consistency

    Votes: 11 24.4%
  • Believing the magazines contain "information"

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Following what the pros do

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 4.4%

  • Total voters
    45
I felt like having you guys debate all the factors, see a few heated discussions, and then have a big group hug at the end.

I have succeeded.
 
Bob Smith said:
I felt like having you guys debate all the factors, see a few heated discussions, and then have a big group hug at the end.

I have succeeded.

You're an evil man, Bob.
 
lol u conniver sp?
Bob Smith said:
I felt like having you guys debate all the factors, see a few heated discussions, and then have a big group hug at the end.

I have succeeded.
 
Now that Gavin put it that way, I think he is right. I am a convert! Training is probably the biggest single factor.

[MK]

P.S. Freddy, that is why I mentioned Scot Mendelson. I know he has a six pack when he competes, so I was just trying to make the point that not all powerlifters are fat. Or course, Scot's Pectorals are the size of boulders!
 
Gotcha.

Mark Kerr said:
Now that Gavin put it that way, I think he is right. I am a convert! Training is probably the biggest single factor.

[MK]

P.S. Freddy, that is why I mentioned Scot Mendelson. I know he has a six pack when he competes, so I was just trying to make the point that not all powerlifters are fat. Or course, Scot's Pectorals are the size of boulders!
 
damn you fucking guys!!! now you really got me thinking and jonesin' over that potato Chip & soda diet. i haven't had any chips in months, trying to stay away from the fat and sodium but, hey, it just might work right? :D

and i might just start 'streetwalking' at nights to earn a couple of extra bucks to send the kids off to college... who needs sleep?... ;)
 
Freddy said:
I feel cheap, used and manipulated. And I like it. Does that make me a whore?
Freddy, you can be my whore anyday. ;)

Chip, instead of chips and soda, why not to the Krispy Kreme and milk diet? Very tasty! Though Dunkin Donuts and Milk would be much better.
 
Bob Smith said:
Freddy, you can be my whore anyday. ;)

Chip, instead of chips and soda, why not to the Krispy Kreme and milk diet? Very tasty! Though Dunkin Donuts and Milk would be much better.

aaaah, you're fucking killing me bob!!! i feel a binge coming on bro.... dunkin' donuts, krispy cremes, chips, milk, soda... mmmmmmmm.... :D
 
i have some sourcream and onion ruffles right here bro. Taco pizza and dorito's at home. Everyday is a cheat day for me woohoo
 
I would love to dive into a dozen Boston Cream from Dunkin Donuts. Mmm, washed down by a Great One latte.
 
Dunkin' Donuts pisses me off anymore. Fuck them people. Years ago the donuts were an acceptable size. Now? Shit, they've shrunk 40%. Piss on that, is what I say.

The same goes for Dove Bars. They used to be huge and now they're miniscule. Of course, they still cost more. Those bastards!
 
i can't stand donuts anyways so who cares and wtf is a dove bar? you missed a helluva thread today big boy
 
I say Lack of consistency... Prisoners are perfect examples. They train,eat(although not the best food),and sleep at the same times ED
 
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thick said:
i can't stand donuts anyways so who cares and wtf is a dove bar? you missed a helluva thread today big boy

Dove Bars are premium ice cream on a stick surrounded by premium chocolate. Maybe it's an Illinois thing. There were several Dove icecream stores around the Chicagoland area, but they've all been changed to Cupid Candies.
 
Freddy said:
Training.

Definitely training. You can practically starve yourself and not sleep at all and make good gains on the 5x5. As long as your training is really good, you're fine.

Chip you had a valid argument after this post and I 100% agree with you, I suppose Phreezer said what Freddy meant because I don't really think Freddy meant what he said in this post. IMHO I still beleive nutrition is #1, maybe I'm just bias, as I will get no gains off of potato chips and soda, unless maybe I ate 10 pounds worth but I don't think that's realistic. Thick about you saying that I am wrong, here's somethin for ya. :)
 

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dolfe1 said:
Chip you had a valid argument after this post and I 100% agree with you, I suppose Phreezer said what Freddy meant because I don't really think Freddy meant what he said in this post. IMHO I still beleive nutrition is #1, maybe I'm just bias, as I will get no gains off of potato chips and soda, unless maybe I ate 10 pounds worth but I don't think that's realistic. Thick about you saying that I am wrong, here's somethin for ya. :)

No, I meant what I said. Phreezer said the same exact thing as I did, just in a less abbrassive manner.
 
dolfe, freddy, when i replied i was speaking for myself, for my particular circumstances. i'm 38 years old and an ectomorph. so for me, it's just not possible to do it without spot-on nutrition, regardless of how hard i'm lifting.

in high school i weighed 140lbs, in college i weighed 165lbs (after a couple of years of lifting b/w the ages of 17-19) and up until my late 20's i weighed 175lbs. all at the height of 5'11". over the last 8-9 years i've gone from 175 to 215 and fairly lean; now i'm 208lbs. but the only way i did it was via non-stop eating of quality food. i've tried all types of lifting over the years: 5x5, 8x8, 10x10, heavy duty, volume training, high-reps, low-reps, etc. the only time i made good gains is when i stuffed my face with a lot of 'good' food consistently.

if i were to go back to eating 3 meals a day, even very 'good' food, i would go right back down to 175 within a matter of just a few months regardless of how i trained. believe, it's happened to me twice. so i'm never going back to 3 meals a day, unless i want to drop weight real quickly. for others, like freddy and phreezer, this may not be the case but for me it most certainly is.
 
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