Pharmacom (Darius) non-stickered Test E

[flenser]

Fuck I forgot i am color blind. Too

I use a color detector app like this one..

http://www.cosmin.com/colordetector/

 

[Wunderpus]

I had a few years ago Balkan pharmaceutical test enan, it came on labmax test similar like yours.

Lab testing later confirmed it to be test cyp.

I do not believe that they would substitute test enan with deca or something like that on purpose. So I am guessing it is contaminated test enan or cyp

Do bloods and see what happens.

honestky, merc, I'm not going to run this product and do bloods. I want what I ordered and paid for, and I am very confident this is not it. I have done many transactions with Darius and have publicly Spoken kindly about him and his products multiple times. This is an opportunity for him to resolve a shitty situation.

I wish I had more labmax tests (I'm going to order them now) as I'm going to retest all my new products from Darius. Formerly the EQ, Deca and Dbol all passed when I tested them months ago. Now, I worry there might be an internal issue at their warehouse, as products are being improperly labeled and packaged. @Fouts had an issue where his test E was most likely test P. Mine is most likely test cyp. How does the product run into so many labeling issues?

I realiZe cyp and enanthate are mostly interchangeable. But, I would've ordered cyp if that's what I wanted. I have a personal preference towards enanthate, and I'm sticking to that.

I would be interested to see what's actually in these vials, however I am not interested floating $1K of my own money to get them tested, in hopes I get paid back or for a credit.

This is really putting a damper on my whole cycle. Between the delay (which I believe was out of Darius conteol) and now these products being incorrect....

 

[mercury]

see my test of galenika, this is good test enan

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/galenika-test-enan-labmax.134362425/

you can see that blue residue

 

[Flounder]

Honestly @Wunderpus to me they both look like test cyp with the new one even more so. One thing is for certain, neither one is test enth. Funny how we all have our favorite esters. Mine is test cyp.

 

[RThoads]

@Wunderpus I believe I have seen Darius post n his thread that he would support Simec testing -- ask him for reimbursement and send it in for HPLC. It is a win-win because if he stands by his product and knows it is legit then the results will be great to show his quality and you obviously benefit from learning what you are working with; any good source should jump on it as an opportunity! If you need any info or help reading how to send it etc feel free to PM me anytime brother.

 

[Wunderpus]

@Wunderpus I believe I have seen Darius post n his thread that he would support Simec testing -- ask him for reimbursement and send it in for HPLC. It is a win-win because if he stands by his product and knows it is legit then the results will be great to show his quality and you obviously benefit from learning what you are working with; any good source should jump on it as an opportunity! If you need any info or help reading how to send it etc feel free to PM me anytime brother.

I emailed simec about a week ago for an unrelated matter. Do you have a better way to contact them? They never got back to me.

@Flounder it would be like ordering a Dr. Pepper and getting a Pepsi. At the end of the day, it's close to the same thing, but not what I wanted.

I feel like it is test cyp, as after a few weeks on it I'm starting to blow up. Which is good, but still a little irritating. If this was deca instead, or EQ, whatever, it could realy jack someone's cycle up. I think there needs to be something done in-house regarding the labeling/quality control.

All in all it bums me out because I actually like doing business with Darius. He is professional, fast and fair. I hope we can resolve this in a way that makes us both happy, and we can continue back down the path we were on.

I still intend to test the other products I have once the LM'a show up. It might further confirm an in-house labeling/packaging issue.

Darius is in a far different time zone than us, I am curious to see how he replies. I do expect him to be understanding and fair, as he has been in the past.

 

[Dema]

I don't understand here.... You said the old vial was verified test E?? And yet labmax looks like c so now why would you be having thoughts about the new stuff saying labmax says its test c, when you know labmax was wrong with the old stuff? ...

 

[Wunderpus]

I don't understand here.... You said the old vial was verified test E?? And yet labmax looks like c so now why would you be having thoughts about the new stuff saying labmax says its test c, when you know labmax was wrong with the old stuff? ...

Verified by anecdotal results I knew it was test, and long estered. Turns out it probably was, just cyp. I guess I really CANT tell the difference as much as I thought I could. It does appear to be dosed more or less correctly as I'm on 2mgs/day of pharmacy adex. If this was drastically underdosed my E2 would be crashed to shit. I will try and get bloods in the next week or so if I can.

I wish I had more labmaxes as I have some other Test E I received from him a while back and id like to see what that looks like.

I am beginning to wonder, since test e is their most popular product, if they fill in the gap with test cyp when the E is out of stock? Most people, including myself, wouldn't know unless they tested.

 

[Flounder]

Yeah I understand how you feel. We want what we bought and nothing different. It does appear Darius is having some quality control issues in regards to labeling. His saving grace is his willingness to correct issues as they arise, but there seems to be too many lately for my taste.

 

[Dema]

I've noticed a lot of pharamcom having bad labmaxed almost all Round on there products.. I don't know maybe some of the labmaxs vets can chime in but could it be the eo causing these bad readings?

 

[ROB581211]

i was always under the impression that if your were taking test e and switched to test c you would have to wait the normal time for it run its course through your system. Meaning you would have a little bit of "down time" where your test levels would be off. Is this true or not

 

[mercury]

I've noticed a lot of pharamcom having bad labmaxed almost all Round on there products.. I don't know maybe some of the labmaxs vets can chime in but could it be the eo causing these bad readings?

you should go to labmax web site and read about the test, they explain everything.

if you get the right colors then you have pharma grade except you do not know the potency.

If your sample is contaminated which is common issue with most UGL, it will fool labmax test. even if you have the right hormone but it is mixed with other hormone it will show as fail. Maybe I should not say fool it says that it is not pharma grade and you should consider it as fake or bunk.

 

[Dema]

you should go to labmax web site and read about the test, they explain everything.

if you get the right colors then you have pharma grade except you do not know the potency.

If your sample is contaminated which is common issue with most UGL, it will fool labmax test. even if you have the right hormone but it is mixed with other hormone it will show as fail. Maybe I should not say fool it says that it is not pharma grade and you should consider it as fake or bunk.

I have read the website and understand that but I beilieve I never read anything about having eo in the oil... Maybe the eo is contaminating the testing process

 

[Dema]

you should go to labmax web site and read about the test, they explain everything.

if you get the right colors then you have pharma grade except you do not know the potency.

If your sample is contaminated which is common issue with most UGL, it will fool labmax test. even if you have the right hormone but it is mixed with other hormone it will show as fail. Maybe I should not say fool it says that it is not pharma grade and you should consider it as fake or bunk.

And you wording isn't the best.... You can have the right color and it can be far from pharma grade

 

[Flounder]

I am beginning to wonder, since test e is their most popular product, if they fill in the gap with test cyp when the E is out of stock? Most people, including myself, wouldn't know unless they tested.

This is most likely what is happening since they receive the gear unlabeled.

 

[Fouts]

i was always under the impression that if your were taking test e and switched to test c you would have to wait the normal time for it run its course through your system. Meaning you would have a little bit of "down time" where your test levels would be off. Is this true or not

Test is test. Those 2 Esthers are similar enough that it should not matter. Now maybe from say test prop to test e. Of course you have down time, so you have to start the test e well before u finish the prop. If you're planning to cruise after the prop for example.
If not then you just start your pct in a couple days as opposed to a couple weeks for long Esthers.

 

[Fouts]

you should go to labmax web site and read about the test, they explain everything.

if you get the right colors then you have pharma grade except you do not know the potency.

If your sample is contaminated which is common issue with most UGL, it will fool labmax test. even if you have the right hormone but it is mixed with other hormone it will show as fail. Maybe I should not say fool it says that it is not pharma grade and you should consider it as fake or bunk.

Is there any way this could be phenylprop or prop? That is what mosy likely happened to me or I got some majorly underdosed test e which doesnt seem to be the case for most orders in that time frame.

This is why I need to get that bottle tested ASAP. Not labmax but spec tested. I had a concern when mine showed up without scratch codes. My concern ended up being substantiated through my BW.

i just don't want @Wunderpus going through what I did. If it's test c ok not that big of a deal (but I fully agree with you on preferred Esthers and getting what you paid for) but on that much adex and u start running prop like you would test e. Big problems! Not as big of a problem if it's test c.

 

[Fouts]

So, I received these test E's from Darius. Seemed a little odd they didn't have boxes or security codes. Wanted to labmax them. Does vial A have a weird purple color to it, or is it me?

I will compare it to some security coded and boxed test E, shortly.

Something is up with that. Ok here's something I will say my test e that was bad was almost clear. Looks almost identical to the pharmacom prop I got. Your bottles are clearly a darker liquid. That's a good sign I think?

Then again those failed LM's are a little worrisome. Let's see what Darius says.

 

[mercury]

Is there any way this could be phenylprop or prop?

It is not test prop for sure, test prop has very nice strong blue - greenish glow in vial B and the initial color in A is olive green (test E, C is right away orange)

so you would know right away if it is prop.

so we are guessing at this point, I am leaning towards test cyp but it can be anything.

I have seen before enan replace with cyp so I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[rpbb]

It is not test prop for sure, test prop has very nice strong blue - greenish glow in vial B and the initial color in A is olive green (test E, C is right away orange)

so you would know right away if it is prop.

so we are guessing at this point, I am leaning towards test cyp but it can be anything.

I have seen before enan replace with cyp so I wouldn't be surprised.

glad to see you back mercury, always appreciate the contributions