Pharmacom (Darius) non-stickered Test E

[Steroidify]

The incorrect packaging is a worse sign than the LM test IMO. If that's not a legit package, it means someone faked it on purpose. I'm thinking it has more to do with stealth packaging, though. If they sent the vials and labels separately, they might not use scratch codes.

I think both your LM tests fail. The wife isn't here to back up my color blind eyes, but I don't see any blue in either b-vial.

This is most likely what is happening since they receive the gear unlabeled.

All the vials were labeled. It was just a missing sticker (not the product label) and a box for several Test vials. Wunderpus received 2 orders this week, 6-7 in the last couple of months and I think those had proper packaging.
I've explained the packaging glitches multiple times and the fact that they don't have a correlation with bad batches, different reshippers/resellers etc.
Pharmacom anti counterfeiting measures are top of the line, making it impossible to be replicated. Embedded logo on the plastic cap, ceramic logo on the vial, silver foil on the label, hologram etc.
At this moment 20% of my packages are shipped from Asia - Internationally, directly from the factory and the rest from my warehouse, where I can offer a premium delivery service.
Same packaging for both shipping methods. Products are imported to our warehouse in their original packaging.

honestky, merc, I'm not going to run this product and do bloods. I want what I ordered and paid for, and I am very confident this is not it. I have done many transactions with Darius and have publicly Spoken kindly about him and his products multiple times. This is an opportunity for him to resolve a shitty situation.

I wish I had more labmax tests (I'm going to order them now) as I'm going to retest all my new products from Darius. Formerly the EQ, Deca and Dbol all passed when I tested them months ago. Now, I worry there might be an internal issue at their warehouse, as products are being improperly labeled and packaged. @Fouts had an issue where his test E was most likely test P. Mine is most likely test cyp. How does the product run into so many labeling issues?

I realiZe cyp and enanthate are mostly interchangeable. But, I would've ordered cyp if that's what I wanted. I have a personal preference towards enanthate, and I'm sticking to that.

I would be interested to see what's actually in these vials, however I am not interested floating $1K of my own money to get them tested, in hopes I get paid back or for a credit.

This is really putting a damper on my whole cycle. Between the delay (which I believe was out of Darius conteol) and now these products being incorrect....

Why is this a shitty situation? You've ordered multiple times and results were always positive. Did you used a Labmax test for all your PharmacomStore previous successful purchases?

Fouts indeed had a serious issue, but that's from a 5-6 months ago order. I understand your problem and I'll take care of it with maximum attention but let's not make it sound like a day to day basis event.

You said you were going to order more Labmax tests to retest all the new products you got. Let me know the cost for those and you'll have the money sent through wire transfer plus the lab testing cost for sending that vial to SIMEC or any other facility you choose.

 

[Flounder]

@Darius PharmacomStore What are your thoughts on the Labmax results that we are seeing? Personally I'm not a fan of Labmax, but these results certainly do not look like Test E. Most likely Test C.
I know you will take good care of Wunderpus because you are excellent about correcting issues.

 

[manafest]

Blah more LM results and people talking trash..send to simec and get reimbursed before posting anymore about it.. RT did about that NPP Fail and guess what everyone who just assumed it was shit was totally wrong...when will people learn

 

[Wunderpus]

@Darius PharmacomStore What are your thoughts on the Labmax results that we are seeing? Personally I'm not a fan of Labmax, but these results certainly do not look like Test E. Most likely Test C.
I know you will take good care of Wunderpus because you are excellent about correcting issues.

Darius privately messaged me with a fair resolution to this issue, as we expected.

@Darius PharmacomStore you are right, in the past everything has been very positive, as you know. That is why this particular situation stood out. I am happy with your solution and offer to simec one of these, as I would think it could be helpful to see if labmax was right or wrong here in saying its Test C. What're your thoughts on that?

As I explained in our PM's, I will continue to order from you due to this being one glitch in an overall positive chain of orders. Every other product I have received has worked as planned or labmaxed well, this was a weird one.

To me it's a perfect opportunity to see if labmax truly does hold any weight.

 

[Wunderpus]

Blah more LM results and people talking trash..send to simec and get reimbursed before posting anymore about it.. RT did about that NPP Fail and guess what everyone who just assumed it was shit was totally wrong...when will people learn

I'm sorry, but I don't really understand your condescending position towards this, at all. I have every right to labmax this product. In fact, the source openly supports it! So why the fuck not?

This can be used as another example to either discredit labmax are prove a bit of credibility for it. Also, simec takes time and a temporary "loan" of my own money. Not everyone has that much time to wait, or the much disposable income to float. Some people may not wish to wait a week or two for their gear, then float ~300 bucks and wait another week or two just to start their cycle or verify the product is legit.

Few people claim labmax as the word of God, I don't, but it does seem like a somewhat inexpensive and fast way to at least get a somewhat reasonable idea of what's in those vials. I'm sorry again if this is particular offensive to you, but keep in mind this is my money, gear, time and cycle, not yours.

Thanks.

 

[manafest]

I'm sorry, but I don't really understand your condescending position towards this, at all. I have every right to labmax this product. In fact, the source openly supports it! So why the fuck not?

This can be used as another example to either discredit labmax are prove a bit of credibility for it. Also, simec takes time and a temporary "loan" of my own money. Not everyone has that much time to wait, or the much disposable income to float. Some people may not wish to wait a week or two for their gear, then float ~300 bucks and wait another week or two just to start their cycle or verify the product is legit.

Few people claim labmax as the word of God, I don't, but it does seem like a somewhat inexpensive and fast way to at least get a somewhat reasonable idea of what's in those vials. I'm sorry again if this is particular offensive to you, but keep in mind this is my money, gear, time and cycle, not yours.

Thanks.

You are most likely right about the fact it will help discredit expose LM weakness in testing aas not nearly as black and white as some assume it is. Simec while being the concrete proof without doubt does cost a bit more money, however at least when you make a thread about questionable gear and go with the simec route the results wont be questionable as they are with LM and you don't have people running rampant with saying the gear is complete shit or not what its supposed to be.. In all cases that seems to be what happens when people LM and post meanwhile do they really have 100% conviction? I say no and things end up running wild.. >: )

 

[Wunderpus]

You are most likely right about the fact it will help discredit expose LM weakness in testing aas not nearly as black and white as some assume it is. Simec while being the concrete proof without doubt does cost a bit more money, however at least when you make a thread about questionable gear and go with the simec route the results wont be questionable as they are with LM and you don't have people running rampant with saying the gear is complete shit or not what its supposed to be.. In all cases that seems to be what happens when people LM and post meanwhile do they really have 100% conviction? I say no and things end up running wild.. >: )

What RT did is great. I would be interested to send these in as well, as this is either a false positive for cyp., or something else unusual. Shit, it might even BE test E, who knows? I'm all for more in depth testing, as well.

I truly hope labmax isn't as shitty as you think it is. If it's even PRETTY credible, it can be a decent resource for most users. I still believe it is more accurate for some tests than others.

 

[Flounder]

You are most likely right about the fact it will help discredit expose LM weakness in testing aas not nearly as black and white as some assume it is. Simec while being the concrete proof without doubt does cost a bit more money, however at least when you make a thread about questionable gear and go with the simec route the results wont be questionable as they are with LM and you don't have people running rampant with saying the gear is complete shit or not what its supposed to be.. In all cases that seems to be what happens when people LM and post meanwhile do they really have 100% conviction? I say no and things end up running wild.. >: )

Like I said before, I am not a fan of Labmax but it does have it's place in this world. I'm fairly certain everyone posting on this thread is aware of Labmax's flaws and that it is not 100% foolproof. Everyone I see is saying it "looks" like Test Cyp, not that it is. We don't know what it is, just that it doesn't "look" like Test E. Even @mercury didn't say it was Test E, just that it may be Test C.
Labmax's flaws are becoming well known, so there appears to be a shift in how most are applying it's results. Simec is the only way to resolve this issue.
EDIT: Damn my bad. I did state earlier that it was NOT Test E. That certainly was not my intention. I apologize for that. It certainly could be Test E. Only Simec will give us the answer to that.

 

[Wunderpus]

Like I said before, I am not a fan of Labmax but it does have it's place in this world. I'm fairly certain everyone posting on this thread is aware of Labmax's flaws and that it is not 100% foolproof. Everyone I see is saying it "looks" like Test Cyp, not that it is. We don't know what it is, just that it doesn't "look" like Test E. Even @mercury didn't say it was Test E, just that it may be Test C.
Labmax's flaws are becoming well known, so there appears to be a shift in how most are applying it's results. Simec is the only way to resolve this issue.
EDIT: Damn my bad. I did state earlier that it was NOT Test E. That certainly was not my intention. I apologize for that. It certainly could be Test E. Only Simec will give us the answer to that.

I mean shit, I will still use labmax to even confirm a present hormone and for a quick test in the future.

This can be an opportunity to put another nail in LM's coffin, in a sense. Or, if this comes back test cyp., maybe vindicate it to some degree. Either way, I don't think testing like this and holding different testing methods accountable is bad at all.

 

[mercury]

I mean shit, I will still use labmax to even confirm a present hormone and for a quick test in the future.

This can be an opportunity to put another nail in LM's coffin, in a sense. Or, if this comes back test cyp., maybe vindicate it to some degree. Either way, I don't think testing like this and holding different testing methods accountable is bad at all.

it works well on some, take example of tren, there is nice green glow, nothing else gives this results. so you should never be mistaken when testing tren and a few others.

only some ASS seem to be harder to test.

 

[Steroidify]

@Darius PharmacomStore What are your thoughts on the Labmax results that we are seeing? Personally I'm not a fan of Labmax, but these results certainly do not look like Test E. Most likely Test C.
I know you will take good care of Wunderpus because you are excellent about correcting issues.

Unfortunately, I lack the knowledge to interpret a Labmax. You guys have much more experience with LM and as long as a similar debate will happen, marked by uncertinty, I'll always pay for a proper SIMEC testing.

Me, as a seller, trusting the Labmax or not is irrelevant. What customers think is the most important. It's quite popular here, the cheapest and most accessible way you (the customer) can assume some kind of a hormone is present there, so for me there are enough arguments to promote it ... that's why I decided long time ago to offer 100$ Free Store Credit for each Labmax result shared.

During the course of the last months all Pharmacom reports were positive, not just on MESO but on all major steroid boards we're present.
Multiple blood tests, LM, HGH serums, customer's feedback and also SIMEC ( results published for Pharmacom products can be also verified through their contact address ).

 

[Wunderpus]

Gents,

It looks like I will be sending in this vial labeled test enanthate for further testing (simec).

Awaiting to hear back from the Simec rep, I will keep you all in the loop. I am curious to see how this plays out.

Thanks.

 

[flenser]

Gents,

It looks like I will be sending in this vial labeled test enanthate for further testing (simec).

Awaiting to hear back from the Simec rep, I will keep you all in the loop. I am curious to see how this plays out.

Thanks.

See if he will include the raw data with the report.

 

[Wunderpus]

See if he will include the raw data with the report.

Okay, anything else I need to ask for? I have NO idea what I'm doing with this shit, LOL.

 

[flenser]

Okay, anything else I need to ask for? I have NO idea what I'm doing with this shit, LOL.

I think the raw data should at least answer whether there are other hormones present, though not what or how much.

 

[Wunderpus]

I think the raw data should at least answer whether there are other hormones present, though not what or how much.

Okay, I will see if that's more expensive or not. And if it is, make sure Darius will cover the costs before I pull the trigger.

 

[flenser]

Okay, I will see if that's more expensive or not. And if it is, make sure Darius will cover the costs before I pull the trigger.

Since they are already doing it for AnabolicLab, hopefully the process of saving a couple of plots will be a minor issue by now.

 

[mercury]

here is example of raw data, the sample contained a lot of contaminations, it still contained the right hormone but it was fail on labmax because of the contaminations.


you can call it bunk but you can still inject there was nothing unsafe just a lot of shit due to poor lab practices.

 

[Wunderpus]

Okay, I just emailed the rep back. He said it was ~290 EU for the basic analysis, I asked if that included the raw data. Apparently the cost can go higher if that don't have a standard, but I have to assume they will for Test Enan..

 

[mercury]

Okay, I just emailed the rep back. He said it was ~290 EU for the basic analysis, I asked if that included the raw data. Apparently the cost can go higher if that don't have a standard, but I have to assume they will for Test Enan..

seriously stay with products which have been tested and passed like

alpha pharma
asia pharma
Baltic pharmaceutical

good quality but there are fakes too, brand names and some guys are counterfeiting them.

if you want to send every new shit to the lab which shows on the black market it will bankrupt you.