Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

Danex87

Junior Member
It just seems like miscommunication that is all. Tren-E is one of the most expensive compounds so clearly the source is not trying to scam or rip you off if they did send that to you.
And, Frank just posted they will still try to send Test-E as well.
Clear to anyone that reads along that this source does care and does try to take care of things to help its customers.

Looks like a lot of confusion from trying to switch items in an already submitted/shipped order and CV delays etc. and I am not sure how customer service would be able to alter an order; they likely are trying to help you (we can all see that because they are replying and sent you more items) but once the order is outside of the computer system automated process, there is room for confusion.
In my humble opinion, the source should have just re-sent whatever you were owed and declined a request for switching items or warehouses or whatever -- maybe not perfect but would have eliminated language barriers, the need for a person to attempt to manually try to change order contents, and confusion with info being relayed to warehouse workers.

I have no authority or ability to make policies so it really does not matter what I think, but my suggestion to is that the source simplify things by just having an automated system for reship requests whereas a customer may log into his or her account and submit a customer service ticket if a pack is lost or seized.
Then the request could send a notification to a customer service workers to quickly review tracking and/or any evidence, and approve or decline the re-ship. With one click, if approved, the computer system should automatically generate a duplicate order and send packing/shipping info to the warehouse that shipped the original order – just a true exact repeat of the order but without any additional cost to the customer (if customer service approved the reship request).

Anyway, as inefficient and confusing as the old-fashion way of emails, PMs, and posts/replies etc. is, the good thing here is we once again see Basicstero (Frank) with open communication, genuine (no bullshit or marketing, even says if someone does not like the terms, go find another source), and most importantly the willingness to still help a customer with an offer to send out products to make things good.

@Danex87 take Frank up on the offer for the Test-E (you will likely need to contact the source directly and lets them know of his offer here, unless you already have emails going with Frank) -- may as well get those because it is some high quality gear and never hurts to have more -- even if you do opt to find another source for the future.

That’s the thing though it hadn’t already been shipped when the changes were made, and they asked to make some changes as some items (caber) weren’t in stock. This was during the time when orders were all held as they couldn’t ship.

I don’t think they are trying to scam me, just that they should own up to the mistake rather than shifting the blame onto me. I just feel like I’ve been made out to be a problem customer and like I’ve done something wrong or trying to scam them when all I wanted is what was ordered.
 

Pharmacom Labs

Member
AnabolicLab.com Supporter
Right, Im going to paste emails I received and you can check this on your end to confirm.

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"No test e here at all, how come you are asking for test e now if your order did not even have it?"
After months of no word on my order, I inquired about it and was informed I could have it shipped from another warehouse and that it may take 30 days but that some items would have to be switched. As you can see, I switched the Test P to Test E and Caber was out of stock so I switched it for more Proviron.

"Second, you are saying the bonuses did not come. There were 2 packages shipped at the first time.
Your main order contains just 7 items which all actually easily get into one single package. We shipped 2. So, if you say bonuses were not shipped, what was in the second package?"


The first package was a bubble envelope containing only Proviron. The second package contained 5 vials of tren which I sent a picture of. Its obviously wrong if I only ordered 3 and end up with 5. No test at all included.

The reship contained 3 tren, 1 test p and 2x proviron. After emailing about it I was told that's the only part of my order that was reshipped as the rest was bonus. I never was sent the bonus in the first place.

I have pictures of the packages and what was contained inside but I won't post them as it would expose the "secure" packaging that was used, however I can send them to you. Yes, I didn't video myself opening the packages as Ive never had to do that with any supplier ever. Its obvious it was wrong though when after the first packages arrive I have 5 vials of your tren. I don't appreciate being made out to be a liar trying to scam some test, Im not that broke. Yes the items missing were bonus items, but don't offer that bonus if you don't want to deliver on it and blame it on the customer for not recording a video of themselves opening packages of illegal substances.
Im not about to sit and argue though, it is what it is and like you say I should just go elsewhere.
Obviously there was some misunderstanding and I am more than sure test e was not shipped exactly because it was not in the original list. Yes, our mistake. Sorry for this. We reship test e asap.
 

luissp

Member
Hi all
Have there been recent tests on the Pharmatropin or experience to share?
Need to restock GH as I´ll soon be out of pharma grade (used to be able to buy it in hospitals but no longer, at least not enough to be able to keep some for myself :( )
Familiar with Supertropin but I don´t like the GH serum tests coming out with crazy high numbers, and while I suspect Pharmacom´s GH is some standard chinese generic, I´d trust them more than most sellers to make sure it´s not crap.
I live in the EU btw.
Any feedback ?

Thanks in advance
 

Lilarnie

Member
Hoping someone here could help me out. First I want to state that the deca I’m about to ask about was bought from my source and not basic.
anyway my source (who I trust) told me he has deca left. The only reason I came here and started ordering from basic in the first place is because my source stop selling pcom. And he sold it cheaper than I can get from basic too, somehow?

anyway the only reason I’m asking is because of how hard it was to scratch of the code bit. The first one I tried I scraped off half the code. And the second;

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Whats the 5th digit? is it a zero 0, or a O.

at first i put 0 and it came back as fake. but with O it comes back as legit. and i fucked the second code so i cant check.

I just want to hear what someone else thinks..
 

RThoads

Member
Hi all
Have there been recent tests on the Pharmatropin or experience to share?
Need to restock GH as I´ll soon be out of pharma grade (used to be able to buy it in hospitals but no longer, at least not enough to be able to keep some for myself :( )
Familiar with Supertropin but I don´t like the GH serum tests coming out with crazy high numbers, and while I suspect Pharmacom´s GH is some standard chinese generic, I´d trust them more than most sellers to make sure it´s not crap.
I live in the EU btw.
Any feedback ?

Thanks in advance

I do not know of any very recent test results posted anywhere. But I will ask around -- maybe on Russian boards someone has tested more recently. IF/when I get any info, will reply to my own comment here again and tag you.
 
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RThoads

Member
Hoping someone here could help me out. First I want to state that the deca I’m about to ask about was bought from my source and not basic.
anyway my source (who I trust) told me he has deca left. The only reason I came here and started ordering from basic in the first place is because my source stop selling pcom. And he sold it cheaper than I can get from basic too, somehow?

anyway the only reason I’m asking is because of how hard it was to scratch of the code bit. The first one I tried I scraped off half the code. And the second;

View attachment 136188
Whats the 5th digit? is it a zero 0, or a O.

at first i put 0 and it came back as fake. but with O it comes back as legit. and i fucked the second code so i cant check.

I just want to hear what someone else thinks..

Basicstero is the only direct from manufacturer (Pharmacom) source; as such, it is very unlikley anyone may be able to sell genuine Pharmacom products at any lower price than BAsicstero's intl (keep that in mind, because unless it is some special sale and they are taking a loss or they just like to be a charity and lose money to provide items at a lower cost, there is no way they can have any room for profit because Basicstero has no middle-men and Basicstero intl warehouse has the lowest price).

As for teh codes, I will ask Frank if he may come have a look. I do not have much experience with codes but he is usually an expert.
 

RThoads

Member
Hello everyone,

I have posted before some results from wikibolics, that shows many tests underdosed, like tren E tested twice 50% underdosed

Pharmacom Labs officials and our Basicstero.com store

So I checked by sending a tren E 200 to Janoshik, I don't trust wikibolics results, another guy verified their meditech results.

Wikibolics lab tests can't be trusted.

Mfg date: 2017-01
Exp date: 2022-01
Batch Nr: PHTR00002EV

Janoshik Analytical

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Thank you for sharing this result.

I agree the wikibolics does not look reputable (I asked around and even PM'd Millard here on MESO which he replied that he never heard of it).

Also, I question if wikibolics even had genuine Pharmacom products -- we do not know wher ethey pruchased products etc. and there are many fakes.

With Basicstero you know you have genuine Pharmacom products direct from the manufacturer.
 
Hello everyone,

I have posted before some results from wikibolics, that shows many tests underdosed, like tren E tested twice 50% underdosed

https://thinksteroids.com/community...ro-com-store.134363986/page-1263#post-2651910

So I checked by sending a tren E 200 to Janoshik, I don't trust wikibolics results, another guy verified their meditech results.

Wikibolics lab tests can't be trusted.

Mfg date: 2017-01
Exp date: 2022-01
Batch Nr: PHTR00002EV

Janoshik Analytical

View attachment 136198
I have a question.. and I’m only asking because it’s something I’ve wondered. Was the same a blind sample? I know Pcom requires that it’s not a blind sample in order to get credit for it.. but reason I ask and this has nothing to do with pcom could b any supplier.. but if it’s not blind and Jano knows the lab, how do we know there isn’t some sort of agreement that he isn’t paid to give good results for certain labs etc? I’m not accusing him or anyone of anything, this is honestly just something I’ve thought about and wondered.
 
I have a question.. and I’m only asking because it’s something I’ve wondered. Was the same a blind sample? I know Pcom requires that it’s not a blind sample in order to get credit for it.. but reason I ask and this has nothing to do with pcom could b any supplier.. but if it’s not blind and Jano knows the lab, how do we know there isn’t some sort of agreement that he isn’t paid to give good results for certain labs etc? I’m not accusing him or anyone of anything, this is honestly just something I’ve thought about and wondered.

Hello sir,

Yes it was a blind sample, Jano had no ideas about the lab or molecule tested, less drama for everyone.
So no credits for this, just to be sure if what I have is legit.
 

Lilarnie

Member
I have a question.. and I’m only asking because it’s something I’ve wondered. Was the same a blind sample? I know Pcom requires that it’s not a blind sample in order to get credit for it.. but reason I ask and this has nothing to do with pcom could b any supplier.. but if it’s not blind and Jano knows the lab, how do we know there isn’t some sort of agreement that he isn’t paid to give good results for certain labs etc? I’m not accusing him or anyone of anything, this is honestly just something I’ve thought about and wondered.


Hello sir,

Yes it was a blind sample, Jano had no ideas about the lab or molecule tested, less drama for everyone.
So no credits for this, just to be sure if what I have is legit.

I read through the forums a lot so I’m really confused and hope one of you can clear it up for me.
There is literally a thread called jano the ultimate conman And liar, and it’s a sticky. Is this a different jano? If not why would people still use him after he was caught red handed faking results?
 

Trena100

Member
Hello sir,

Yes it was a blind sample, Jano had no ideas about the lab or molecule tested, less drama for everyone.
So no credits for this, just to be sure if what I have is legit.
That’s dumb as hell man you should get credit 100%, any other source in the world would give you credit. Part of the testing is for there to be no indication of what hormone is being tested so you know 100% the results you get back are legit. @Pharmacom Labs
 
That’s dumb as hell man you should get credit 100%, any other source in the world would give you credit. Part of the testing is for there to be no indication of what hormone is being tested so you know 100% the results you get back are legit. @Pharmacom Labs

i disagree about the credit. There's too many ways to manipulate the system. The policy of sending in the entire sealed vial eliminates those ways and is why they've implemented it.
 
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i disagree about the credit. There's too many ways to manipulate the system. The policy of sending in the entire sealed vial eliminates those ways and is why they've implemented it.
I tend to agree with this as well.. because then anyone could get a bad result and just say it was pcom or whatever lab they wanted. I do see the other side because if he sees pcom he could have an agreement with them..but even so I agree with the current policy
 

limitphobic

Member
I tend to agree with this as well.. because then anyone could get a bad result and just say it was pcom or whatever lab they wanted. I do see the other side because if he sees pcom he could have an agreement with them..but even so I agree with the current policy

Just curious, but what if the label was removed but the pcom flip top was still intact? Then we’d be (fairly) sure it’s pcom but the test would have to be done correctly, like, take a pic with a crumpled piece of paper with Meso and the current date next to the code before it’s peeled off and another pic after? Something along those lines...
 

Lilarnie

Member
Basicstero is the only direct from manufacturer (Pharmacom) source; as such, it is very unlikley anyone may be able to sell genuine Pharmacom products at any lower price than BAsicstero's intl (keep that in mind, because unless it is some special sale and they are taking a loss or they just like to be a charity and lose money to provide items at a lower cost, there is no way they can have any room for profit because Basicstero has no middle-men and Basicstero intl warehouse has the lowest price).

As for teh codes, I will ask Frank if he may come have a look. I do not have much experience with codes but he is usually an expert.

as for the codes I’ve Googled a lot and it seems pcom zeros have a line through them which means the picture is a O. Can you confirm this please?

like this ?

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RThoads

Member
as for the codes I’ve Googled a lot and it seems pcom zeros have a line through them which means the picture is a O. Can you confirm this please?

like this ?

View attachment 136259

I sent message to Frank and ask him for help with your code.
But is weekend now and people maybe are off work (so I might not hear back for a few days). I will try again and as soon as I get info from Frank I will reply to you.
 
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