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Are the expiration dates accurate on the stealth? Just got my stuff and they expired on 6/2020.
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RThoads
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How/why many people's packs last show tracking update within the USA?
While it is best no one publicly posts any exact locations, I am sure some of you checked your tracking and saw the last update (I know mine was last updated in the same location as multiple others I spoke to privately -- all in the same location -- all in a "wonderful" state that is a flagship example of how corrupt government overreach and communist run politics works out to ruin a state).
IF the source was suddenly going to throw away a hard-earned decade long reputation of good business and just not send orders (to do what? scam $10? 100k? how much? all the orders in this thread do not add up to one month’s overall global volume; why throw that away? good business year after year is worth far more than scamming a few packs), then why would it care to suddenly send them just because you complained?
Think about it; they are either sending them (what they did do) or scamming you and NOT sending them.
IF they are willing to suddenly send them now, just because a few posts asked about the tracking (which anyone that actively decided to NOT send a pack knows customers would ask about), why wouldn't they just have sent them to begin with?
If they were just not going to send them at all (your accusation), then clearly people would complain -- why suddenly send them?
What logical sense would that make?
You know what does make a lot of sense -- they shipped them out, tracking was updating, then they got stuck (maybe even lost or seized) and now the source is looking into the issue.
Pretty obvious these packages were sent and simply delayed/stuck (hopefully not seized but it can happen) at a location.
You guys really reach far out with the conspiracy theories lol.
It’s cool, no one is mad at you
Just please, if you do get your pack, come back and post an update to be fair because, unless you post an update, others that read along can only the complaint but not the resolution.
Hopefully it is all resolved soon -- I really need mine too
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Aestheticstqwe98
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If you look at my previous posts on this thread you'll see that I was also having trouble with USPS tracking, it said USPS was still waiting for item for about 5 days until it updated. I thought it would never come until I finally got my pack in the mail today after 12 days, everything as promised. My advice is have patience...USPS sucks. Pharmacom has my business dog
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RThoads
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I actually do not know that myself. IF I had to guess, I would think they are not accurate because stealth is not a real label and I did not even think stealth had the batch number listed. but I could be wrong (maybe Frank or Pharmacom Support will see and can offer better info).
Regardless, the expiration date really has little significants (and I would also guess many small UGLs simply print up new exp dates -- shit, I wouldn't even put it past the big Phrama Corporation do do the same, after all they have been caugh in lawsuits many times for deceit and corruption).
As long as these products are stored properly, the contents are good for a long time past any printed date:
check out this article from Harvard Medical School:
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything? - Harvard Health
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything?
FDA study gets to the heart of expired medicine and safety
Updated: August 13, 2018
Published: November, 2003
This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in Psychopharmacology Today offers some advice.
It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.
Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.
So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state if expired medicine is safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.
Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. And, really, if a drug manufacturer had to do expiration-date testing for longer periods it would slow their ability to bring you new and improved formulations.
The next time you face the drug expiration date dilemma, consider what you've learned here. If the expiration date passed a few years ago and it's important that your drug is absolutely 100% effective, you might want to consider buying a new bottle. And if you have any questions about the safety or effectiveness of any drug, ask your pharmacist. He or she is a great resource when it comes to getting more information about your medications.
Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything? - Harvard Health
Are expired drugs safe and does the medicine expiration date really matter?...
www.health.harvard.edu
DannyP
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How/why many people's packs last show tracking update within the USA?
While it is best no one publicaly posts any exact locations, I am sure some of you checked your tracking and saw the last update (I know mine was last updated in the same location as multiple others I spoke to privatelty -- all in the same location -- all in a "wonderful" state that is a flagship example of how corrupt government overreach and communist run politics works out to ruin a state).
IF the source was suddenly going to throw away a hard-earned decade long reputation of good business and just not send orders (to do what? scam $10? 100k? how much? all the orders in this thread do not add up to one months overall global volume; why throw that away? good business year after year is worth far more than scamming a few packs), then why would it care to suddenly send them just because you complained?
Think about it; they are either sending them (what they did do) or scamming you and NOT sending them.
IF they are willing to suddenly send them now, just because a few posts asked about the tracking (which anyone that actively decided to NOT send a pack knows customers would ask about), why wouldn't they just have sent them to begin with?
If they were just not going to send them at all (your accusation), then clearly people would complain -- why suddenly send them?
What logical sense would that make?
You know what does make a lot of sense -- they shipped them out, tracking was updating, then they got stuck (maybe even lost or seized) and now the source is looking into the issue.
Pretty obvious these packages were sent and simply delayed/stuck (hopefully not seized but it can happen) at a location.
You guys really reach far out with the conspiracy theories lol.
Its cool, no one is mad at you
Just please, if you do get your pack, come back and post an update to be fair because, unless you post an update, others that read along can only the complaint but not the resolution.
Hopefully it is all r
Not neccesarily a conspiracy theory, I just made the observation it's strange that many people packages just "disappeared" while in transit.How/why many people's packs last show tracking update within the USA?
While it is best no one publicaly posts any exact locations, I am sure some of you checked your tracking and saw the last update (I know mine was last updated in the same location as multiple others I spoke to privatelty -- all in the same location -- all in a "wonderful" state that is a flagship example of how corrupt government overreach and communist run politics works out to ruin a state).
IF the source was suddenly going to throw away a hard-earned decade long reputation of good business and just not send orders (to do what? scam $10? 100k? how much? all the orders in this thread do not add up to one months overall global volume; why throw that away? good business year after year is worth far more than scamming a few packs), then why would it care to suddenly send them just because you complained?
Think about it; they are either sending them (what they did do) or scamming you and NOT sending them.
IF they are willing to suddenly send them now, just because a few posts asked about the tracking (which anyone that actively decided to NOT send a pack knows customers would ask about), why wouldn't they just have sent them to begin with?
If they were just not going to send them at all (your accusation), then clearly people would complain -- why suddenly send them?
What logical sense would that make?
You know what does make a lot of sense -- they shipped them out, tracking was updating, then they got stuck (maybe even lost or seized) and now the source is looking into the issue.
Pretty obvious these packages were sent and simply delayed/stuck (hopefully not seized but it can happen) at a location.
You guys really reach far out with the conspiracy theories lol.
Its cool, no one is mad at you
Just please, if you do get your pack, come back and post an update to be fair because, unless you post an update, others that read along can only the complaint but not the resolution.
Hopefully it is all resolved soon -- I really need mine too
Based on my past interactions with these guys, I assume they will make it right as they always have in the past.
I did read on here that they supposedly were using a new foolproof delivery method and maybe that has something to do with it.
In the meantime I will remain patient and update you guys on this board if the package does show up.
RThoads
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Good to hear
The update is appreciated.
But I might miss your posts because activity helps bump the thread and justifies my income
Seriously tho, most only come to post if they have a concern (its natural and I Would do the same) but when all goes as expected and no concerns, people do not have much motivation to post (again, natural, they paid for something and it showed up as expected -- why post? just a normal sequence of events).
But the trouble is, it creates an inaccurate perception because in a given month there may be thousands of happy customers but when you come here to read, we see the 3 guys that are upset.
You know what I mean? It looks like there are issues because we only see people that thought they have an issue. But all the orders that go smoothly are not talked about.
Think about it, the few guys here with worries are not enough orders to support a big world-wide business -- might not even be enough to pay workers for one week... so clearly there are a great many orders just going as expected without anyone ever coming to post their success.
Anyway, it is what it is and I guess just part of any business -- no Biggy either way.
Thanks again for posting the update and showing all is good. I hope you enjoy a good cycle brother.
RThoads
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Sorry brother, I did not mean that "conspiracy" specifically only at you nor was I meaning it as an insult (I meant more light-hearted but tyoing does not show mood -- if we were talking in person it would come across better); it is just in general everyone comes up with ideas as if the source is making up these big lies, but I don't underdstand why Frank is so dounted when all I have seen him do is be open, communicate, and helpful.
I admit, I consider Frank a friend (he has gone out of his way in the past to really help me) and as such I am bias myself -- I am not too proud to be aware of that fact.
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I understand maybe your own tracking never updated.
If your never showed some steps in the USA, then I completely understand your concern (as I said, I would be concerned too).
Always feel free to post any concern etc. I strongly support that and strongly support your freedom to always speak your mind even if/when I may not agree.
I respect your concern and I agree this tracking situtaion is strange.
I also respect Frank and Basicstero's track-record (and I saw some of the tracking, including my own, had updates in teh USA).
Good point regarding teh new shipping courier; that may very well be playing a roll.
Hopefully Frank gets some info and resolves this for all of us who are waiting on that batch of orders.
RThoads
Subscriber
Let me just add, I really do not even care at all about a delay -- my worry is about seizures.
I am fine with months of delays (I underdstand teh source has no control over shipper and postal services) as long as it is consistent and I can plan ahead. But seized sucks for everyone involved (source losses all the value too).
The source has always offered a free reship with proof of seizure.
but even though they are rare, and it gets resolved, seizures just do not sit well with me.
Let hope these are just delayed and in route -- no seizures.
And, as I stated many times, please post any update if you guys see things moving again or if your pack lands.
Touch Down posts are really appreciated.
I am fine with months of delays (I underdstand teh source has no control over shipper and postal services) as long as it is consistent and I can plan ahead. But seized sucks for everyone involved (source losses all the value too).
The source has always offered a free reship with proof of seizure.
but even though they are rare, and it gets resolved, seizures just do not sit well with me.
Let hope these are just delayed and in route -- no seizures.
And, as I stated many times, please post any update if you guys see things moving again or if your pack lands.
Touch Down posts are really appreciated.
beastWolf
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Hey, what's going on with int.basicstero.ws ? The site has been down all day (same with the US version) and I'm hoping there isn't any trouble in paradise!
Read above. Server is down.
RThoads
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Hi, I am glad to hear it, thank you for your feedback, as I said earlier, there is no reason to worry, everything will be fine, we always do our best to make the customer happy.
RThoads
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The Basicstero site seems to be working much better today.
I just tried it, and at least on my end everything seem smooth and loading quickly right now.
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Do you have lab results on your guys tren e 200? not sure where i would look to find the lab work if you guys had it done. looking to put a order in . let me know . thank you
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RThoads
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Here are the only centralized places I know of to find multipel results (links below); however, I do not think there have been any recent tests posted on Tren-E. Customers sometimes share their own testing results on various boards but I do not know of any centralized searchable collection of customer results.
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2021-04-01 Update From Basicstero site:
"currently we receive many questions and complains regarding not moving packs shipped by the new shipping way from warehouse 2. Some packs did not update since February 28th and even disappeared.
USPS said one of their branch have lock-downed due to covid. This was exactly the branch our packages were going through. Packs are not lost. We are working on taking packs out from there and rerouting though another way. It may take 7-10 days.
Packs shipped later after 28th of February should not have this issue. They are routed though other ways.
Sorry for inconvenience, but we could not foresee it. it is force majeure.
In the worst case, even if some packs get lost, we reship them. No worries."
SOURCE (see link in "code" box below):
"currently we receive many questions and complains regarding not moving packs shipped by the new shipping way from warehouse 2. Some packs did not update since February 28th and even disappeared.
USPS said one of their branch have lock-downed due to covid. This was exactly the branch our packages were going through. Packs are not lost. We are working on taking packs out from there and rerouting though another way. It may take 7-10 days.
Packs shipped later after 28th of February should not have this issue. They are routed though other ways.
Sorry for inconvenience, but we could not foresee it. it is force majeure.
In the worst case, even if some packs get lost, we reship them. No worries."
SOURCE (see link in "code" box below):
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https://int.basicstero.ws/news
Sites down again
