Pristine Anabolics Intro

[stevonov]

im just confused. he has a price to test a sample why does he care what someone might have done to it? unless he wants to prevent people from blending four of their bottles so they can only pay for one test. if so just have a price based on the amount of compounds in it?

 

[Cityofgrit]

I have 6 bottles of test from this source and 3 NPP. Why would I send in an entire bottle of each? I would do a sample... but I’d just go to another source and replace it at that point. For less money anyway

I get it, bro. It would be better if you just had to send a sample in a sterile fragerance vile like Analyzer always took.

 

[stevonov]

I guess the only way to fool proof it would be continuous video of you popping the cap filling the sample throwing in an envelope and keeping the camera roll as you drop it off to the post office. not gonna happen lol

 

[SmallWoody]

Tossing your whole stash instead of sending in one bottle for testing? That seems economically inefficient as fuck, unless you only have a couple bottles or something.

@Weights & Measures, just out of curiosity, why doesn't a clean fragerance vial with the compound in it work? I bought a whole lot of them off Amazon. That's what Analyzer accepted and there didn't ever seem to be a problem.

Lastly, when did Jano become a trusted option? He likes to stir shit up and his record is far from clean.

The dude is the middle man. Simple as that. That's why he wants a full bottle because it's out of his pocket if shit happens. Should of had the lab tester post on here instead.

 

[bolder]

There’s two testing labs at Meso offering their services. So it’s not like there’s no options here...

@janoshik will take samples from a small vial and has instructions on how to do so....

@Weights & Measures now only excepts full unopened vials...

If you don’t wanna send in an entire vial then send it to Jano.
If a full vial doesn’t bother you then send it to W&M.

The testing that is done on products from a source is where the store credit incentive comes into play.
When a source offers store credit for testing, then it should be generous enough that a vial or a small sample wouldn’t matter.

 

[stevonov]

hopefully you buy enough. nothing worse then finding out you have a good batch and then they are on another number when you re order

 

[Brawny]

There’s two testing labs at Meso offering their services. So it’s not like there’s no options here...

@janoshik will take samples from a small vial and has instructions on how to do so....

@Weights & Measures now only excepts full unopened vials...

If you don’t wanna send in an entire vial then send it to Jano.
If a full vial doesn’t bother you then send it to W&M.

The testing that is done on products from a source is where the store credit incentive comes into play.
When a source offers store credit for testing, then it should be generous enough that a vial or a small sample wouldn’t matter.

Only thing that concerns me with shipping to Jano, is shipping the sample internationally. Maybe I’m just being paranoid

 

[Mdubbs]

Lol! Yes, the samples are kept; but I have no access to them. I mean I could get them sent back to me, I guess; but they stay at the lab. I don't know how long they are kept. Maybe depends on his available space?? I'm not sure.

I do realize that requiring new vials isn't ideal. But it has to be this way for me.
I am not suggesting that this would be a general opinion of sources, but if I were a source of finished product; I would be willing to replace a vial if it were sent in for testing and the results posted in my thread.

I understand your reasoning for this but you do realize you're going to lose a shit ton of business dont you? Is this the first time these procedures have affected you?

 

[Kel995]

Your analogy stinks. Trusting the safety of your child/children to a family friend vs trusting a fictitious handle on a PED forum is a ridiculous comparison.

Whether dude has been here for 1 year or 10 years doesn't negate the fact that he's an anonymous, just like everybody else.

There's been several long standing members that have been caught up in behind the scenes shenanigans. Just because they've stuck around through the years doesn't exactly make them trustworthy.

I hear you. Not exactly a perfect world Is it?

I’ll let it be. I can only hope to acquire your flawless viewpoints and angles one day.

 

[stevonov]

Only thing that concerns me with shipping to Jano, is shipping the sample internationally. Maybe I’m just being paranoid

customs to deal with and shipping isn't cheap.

 

[Brawny]

im just confused. he has a price to test a sample why does he care what someone might have done to it? unless he wants to prevent people from blending four of their bottles so they can only pay for one test. if so just have a price based on the amount of compounds in it?

Blending wouldn’t be a wise decision. Because there’s no way you could accurately dose .5mL of 4 compounds with a plastic syringe.

Your percentages would be all over the place

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Lol! Yes, the samples are kept; but I have no access to them. I mean I could get them sent back to me, I guess; but they stay at the lab. I don't know how long they are kept. Maybe depends on his available space?? I'm not sure.

I do realize that requiring new vials isn't ideal. But it has to be this way for me.
I am not suggesting that this would be a general opinion of sources, but if I were a source of finished product; I would be willing to replace a vial if it were sent in for testing and the results posted in my thread.

Crimped and capped doesn’t mean it hasn’t been tampered with anyway. If nefarious goals are in mind they could just put in a new vial with cheap rubber stopper and crimp. It’s not expensive at all, just another step is all.

I don’t think the majority of your customers are looking to fuck over a UGL. So you’re making it more expensive for the average Joe to just confirm what he has. The 1 ml perfume/essential oil vials are cheap on amazon at $0.20. It’s asking a lot to send 10 ml. Your business will only be with the labs themselves at that point. Is that what you’re going for?

 

[bolder]

Only thing that concerns me with shipping to Jano, is shipping the sample internationally. Maybe I’m just being paranoid

No that’s a valid concern man!
I’d recommend, Fake name and fake return address...
You just have to weight your options and do whichever one you’re most comfortable with.

As far as costs for each lab I think they both equal out for USA customers.

I think it’s $90usd and shipping? for Jano
Not sure what shipping costs is exactly but guessing no more than $50usd ?
So estimated at $140

I think W&M is $145 per sample?

So the cost are pretty similar for anyone in the USA.

If I’m incorrect on cost anyone please feel free to correct me. I’m just going on memory so yeah...

 

[Brawny]

Crimped and capped doesn’t mean it hasn’t been tampered with anyway. If nefarious goals are in mind they could just put in a new vial with cheap rubber stopper and crimp. It’s not expensive at all, just another step is all.

I don’t think the majority of your customers are looking to fuck over a UGL. So you’re making it more expensive for the average Joe to just confirm what he has. The 1 ml perfume/essential oil vials are cheap on amazon at $0.20. It’s asking a lot to send 10 ml. Your business will only be with the labs themselves at that point. Is that what you’re going for?

This is pretty much what I’m thinking.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

I hear you. Not exactly a perfect world Is it?

I’ll let it be. I can only hope to acquire your flawless viewpoints and angles one day.

Good luck!

 

[bolder]

Crimped and capped doesn’t mean it hasn’t been tampered with anyway. If nefarious goals are in mind they could just put in a new vial with cheap rubber stopper and crimp. It’s not expensive at all, just another step is all.

I don’t think the majority of your customers are looking to fuck over a UGL. So you’re making it more expensive for the average Joe to just confirm what he has. The 1 ml perfume/essential oil vials are cheap on amazon at $0.20. It’s asking a lot to send 10 ml. Your business will only be with the labs themselves at that point. Is that what you’re going for?

This is pretty much what I’m thinking.

I must have looked right over this! My bad... valid points!
I’m just trying to see the silver lining with all this... if there even is one?

 

[Mdubbs]

@Weights & Measures anything you put it in place can be questioned and isnt fool proof. Also why does it matter to you whats in the vial isnt it your job to test it and tell us. No one thinks you tampered with it. The only question was why jano detected other compounds that you didn't. The vials could've been unopened and sealed and we would still be having this conversation. I'm not sure what this new method fixes for you except less clientele.

 

[Kho]

Well, MESO saves my ass one more time. I was about to pull the trigger on some pristine gear. Shit like is are things no one says on other forums. Always on top of talks shit guys. Much appreciated

 

[Weights & Measures]

The dude is the middle man. Simple as that. That's why he wants a full bottle because it's out of his pocket if shit happens. Should of had the lab tester post on here instead.

Honestly guys, this is spot on for part of my rationale. I cannot afford to pay for retests of spurious results.

I don’t like it either; and I know it will turn lots of people away from my service. I don’t make my living from this, so I am OK with it.

I had figured I was a target a good while back; and post #6003 proves that.

I just can’t keep risking being set up to lose my own money now that I know at least two people corroborated for the purpose of attacking my efforts. I do not think it was intentional for one of them; but it still happened.

In all honesty, I really like MESO and all they guys here that are just trying to get by. But since I started doing this, I have been accused, lied to, and even had my security threatened…..all for something that I swear on my life is a genuine attempt to help the community of guys that are just as much at the mercy of UGL products as I am.

I hope this makes sense and you can see my perspective.

I’m truly sorry to all the good guys my decision will effect; but it is truly in my best interest and not a knee-jerk reaction.

 

[Trenity]

@Brawny and anyone else concerned with sending in unopened vials, I will replace whatever product you send in on top of the testing credit.

For the record, just so it's stated outright, the past few vials I've had tested and every vial moving forward has been/will be randomly pulled from the batch I just completed. I don't see the point in creating a sample strictly for testing. That will just blow up in my face when a member sends in a vial from the same batch and the results come back different. The truth is that good gear sells itself and is highly profitable without having to pull any underhanded shenanigans.

I also want to say that from the conversations I've had with @stevonov and @Weights & Measures, I believe them both to be genuine guys trying to help out the community as a whole. I don't know if it's possible to make the testing process 100% infallible, but if the end result is better gear through more testing and accountability, then it serves its purpose either way.