Pristine Anabolics Intro

[88general88]

Batch numbers need to be accounted for so no one is retesting old shit or shit that has been tested already. Again not playing captain save a hoe, and some might see this as shilling so take from it what you may, I have been in trenity’s corner since havingused his gear, not because his customer service was special, or that he is on the board 24/7 but because his gear brought success , and my bloods prove that, people make mistakes, jail in not inevitable especially in this game. Whether or not he was really in or on hiatus is besides the Point, the guy is soo g what is necessary and has been asked if him minus being on here more, so why are people testing old shit when then know that there has been shown to have been problems. 2 reasons I can’t think of. Only 1 makes sense. Testing old gear continues to put him in a position of weakness, and to be easily manipulated by customers, or so they think. The other is that customer only has old gear, wants the new good gear so they have old shit tested knowing that there is probably a good chance that it is in fact blemished, in order to get store credit to get new and improved prestige. Both reasons are doh g nothing to help meso at the moment, and might possibly kill off one of the only other domestics that has the potential to make it.
Personally I don’t care if you guys think i am off my rocker, I am a realist. The majority of you guys I have to admit are among some of the most intelligent people I have ever communicated with. And then there are the ones that come out of the wood work it seems to either stir up or fill there pockets at the expense of drama. Those are the people whose intentions need questioning. RANT FINISHED

 

[Electrician family man]

Im just happy you got some good shit.

Haha that’s absolutely true. I can’t be to upset right? If I had zero sides I’d be even more pissed thinking my gear was no good lol

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Batch numbers need to be accounted for so no one is retesting old shit or shit that has been tested already. Again not playing captain save a hoe, and some might see this as shilling so take from it what you may, I have been in trenity’s corner since havingused his gear, not because his customer service was special, or that he is on the board 24/7 but because his gear brought success , and my bloods prove that, people make mistakes, jail in not inevitable especially in this game. Whether or not he was really in or on hiatus is besides the Point, the guy is soo g what is necessary and has been asked if him minus being on here more, so why are people testing old shit when then know that there has been shown to have been problems. 2 reasons I can’t think of. Only 1 makes sense. Testing old gear continues to put him in a position of weakness, and to be easily manipulated by customers, or so they think. The other is that customer only has old gear, wants the new good gear so they have old shit tested knowing that there is probably a good chance that it is in fact blemished, in order to get store credit to get new and improved prestige. Both reasons are doh g nothing to help meso at the moment, and might possibly kill off one of the only other domestics that has the potential to make it.
Personally I don’t care if you guys think i am off my rocker, I am a realist. The majority of you guys I have to admit are among some of the most intelligent people I have ever communicated with. And then there are the ones that come out of the wood work it seems to either stir up or fill there pockets at the expense of drama. Those are the people whose intentions need questioning. RANT FINISHED

MESO is not a source board. It is a harm reduction forum. Dudes forget that all the time. The sources that are here don’t need to be here and they pay nothing. Source boards charge up to $1,000 a month to be there. I look at it as that’s a lot of money that can be put back into quality control and lab upgrades (not just cash for their pockets).

There are a lot of guys on here that are making solid efforts to make sure that the UGLs that are here provide exceptional service and product. If dudes don’t care about the quality of their gear they can go over to Brotherhood of Pain where there’s a huge list of “sponsors”.

Part of it is holding these UGLs accountable. If a member here has an issue I’ll personally side with that member unless it’s obvious they are scamming. I haven’t seen any indication of that here. So the UGL can go fuck themselves for all I care. They don’t need anyone to protect them. They’ll stay here as long as they have money to be made.

I see members plunk down money on lesser quality gear. Why? Nobody is stopping you but why are you doing that? Is it desperation? There’s other UGLs available if you read. Is it to save a few bucks? Just manage your money better. It’s inexcusable for gear to be off-dosed. “Close enough” definitely doesn’t indicate that care is being taken. There’s other options and that motivates everyone to step up their game.

And I’ve never ever received anything free from any of the UGLs here. I think we’re all smart enough to figure out when that goes on. As in the case of Superman’s son schilling for the piece of cunt ARL

 

[Weights & Measures]

You could've simply came in here when @jano tagged you initially and explained all this without needing to perform a retest and get your panties in a bunch.

If you would've said your chemist does and did test for multiple compounds and found none that would've cleared it all up at least on your guys results being different.

If you got offended because your chemist was questioned you should get over it. You started the business and since your essentially a reshipper you may be questioned on occasion, not as big of a deal as you're attempting to make it out to be.

I hadalready said, in this thread, about the same compound, that the chemist does test for multiples.
That was good enough that day; then not yesterday.
And my chemist wasn’t questioned. My actions were accused.
“Panties in a bunch”? No, it was you that said I need to retest for free because I was in error so it pissed me off.

 

[Brawny]

I hadalready said, in this thread, about the same compound, that the chemist does test for multiples.
That was good enough that day; then not yesterday.
And my chemist wasn’t questioned. My actions were accused.
“Panties in a bunch”? No, it was you that said I need to retest for free because I was in error so it pissed me off.

A chemist is no different than a source. You’re providing a service and you’re making money from it.

You’re going to be asked questions and you should be willing to answer those. You are in fact being paid to test these compounds.

 

[Weights & Measures]

Not trying to be captain save a hoe here, but I think his point in stating the 18gauge needle issue was in regards to what (your right) hypothetically seemed like 20 or so mgs could have come from. Something else to take away from the fact he started all this shit by accepting a fucked up sample. Talk about greed.

Personally, i don’t get why he would even accept samples that are sent in used containers. That’s setting himself up for scrutiny. So the poor pity me shit is in fact incredibly immature, if maturity is being brought up. Hey W&M ever heard of taking responsibilities for your own actions. Should have pulled out the stops long ago.

How about you try to gather some respect for other people when you type? Or just not type at all.
Also, if you are in the mood to punk me out in text; tag me so I don’t come across this by happenstance. Or did you intend to be rough and tough; but eliminate my counter by not tagging me?
The sender and I discussed the validity of the test before it was performed; and he agreed to proceed.

You are right; I should have required unopened vials long ago.

 

[Sp2.0]

I hadalready said, in this thread, about the same compound, that the chemist does test for multiples.
That was good enough that day; then not yesterday.
And my chemist wasn’t questioned. My actions were accused.
“Panties in a bunch”? No, it was you that said I need to retest for free because I was in error so it pissed me off.

I couldn't care less about your feelers.

I believe I posted you owe a retest and or an explanation. So you could've simply come in and giving the explanation of your guys testing and said for that reason a re test isn't necessary and I and most reasonable people would've accepted that. You chose to come in with fake outrage and try to lay it down like you're a boss. You missed the mark.

You're no different then a source in my eyes and should be questioned if something needs clarified. If something @jano posts gets questioned he addresses it, I'll give him that credit. You act like it's an inconvenience or a direct slight on you and that you shouldn't be bothered with. Most likely because you're not doing the testing.

I think as long as you're on the up and up you provide a good service here but don't get it twisted, you simply provide a service and if you can't or unwilling to address concern's like an adult it's a poor reflection on that service.

 

[Weights & Measures]

A chemist is no different than a source. You’re providing a service and you’re making money from it.

You’re going to be asked questions and you should be willing to answer those. You are in fact being paid to test these compounds.

I completely agree with you.

However, I do not have to sit idly by while I am accused- not questioned.

It was stated multiple times that I screwed up and I owe a free test.

It is only that type of language that I object to.

Just for example, which is a more reasonable and communication generating sentence:
1) Hey W&M messed up and he needs to offer a free retest.
2) Hey W&M, how can we be sure there was no test-e in your sample?


Option #1 is the most frequently chosen here; and it is ignored by too many, too often.
Yes, I am a source; but I don’t have to sit still when I am insulted.
Question me all you want and I will do my best to answer.
Accuse me once, and communications are gone.

 

[Weights & Measures]

I couldn't care less about your feelers.

I believe I posted you owe a retest and or an explanation. So you could've simply come in and giving the explanation of your guys testing and said for that reason a re test isn't necessary and I and most reasonable people would've accepted that. You chose to come in with fake outrage and try to lay it down like you're a boss. You missed the mark.

You're no different then a source in my eyes and should be questioned if something needs clarified. If something @jano posts gets questioned he addresses it, I'll give him that credit. You act like it's an inconvenience or a direct slight on you and that you shouldn't be bothered with. Most likely because you're not doing the testing.

I think as long as you're on the up and up you provide a good service here but don't get it twisted, you simply provide a service and if you can't or unwilling to address concern's like an adult it's a poor reflection on that service.

 

[Brawny]

I completely agree with you.

However, I do not have to sit idly by while I am accused- not questioned.

It was stated multiple times that I screwed up and I owe a free test.

It is only that type of language that I object to.

Just for example, which is a more reasonable and communication generating sentence:
1) Hey W&M messed up and he needs to offer a free retest.
2) Hey W&M, how can we be sure there was no test-e in your sample?


Option #1 is the most frequently chosen here; and it is ignored by too many, too often.
Yes, I am a source; but I don’t have to sit still when I am insulted.
Question me all you want and I will do my best to answer.
Accuse me once, and communications are gone.

And don’t get me wrong, I’m planning on having some stuff tested. But if I have questions, I want to have confidence that my questions will be answered.

Can I purchase small vials and have those tested? This is stuff for personal use, which would defeat the purpose if I send you an entire vial to be tested.

 

[Weights & Measures]

It seems like you and I were reading in a different thread. I wasn’t addressing concerns in my whole post. Much of it was addressing accusations.

 

[Weights & Measures]

And don’t get me wrong, I’m planning on having some stuff tested. But if I have questions, I want to have confidence that my questions will be answered.

Can I purchase small vials and have those tested? This is stuff for personal use, which would defeat the purpose if I send you an entire vial to be tested.

Could you email me. I completely forgot that I was tagged in to someone else’s thread and all this conversation has been going on.
I apologize for that @Trenity .

 

[Weights & Measures]

It seems like you and I were reading in a different thread. I wasn’t addressing concerns in my whole post. Much of it was addressing accusations.

@Sp2.0
Sorry, not sure how I messed it up but that was supposed to be a reply to you.

 

[Sp2.0]

@Sp2.0
Sorry, not sure how I messed it up but that was supposed to be a reply to you.

If you took what I said as an accusation, maybe re read it with a fresh set of eyes.

My only issue was that supposedly to testers tested the same sample with different results.
If you don't believe that deserves clarification and instead it's a direct shot at you man I don't know what to tell you.

@jano explained his results and even posted a graph, which wasn't on my g.e.d test so it's out of my league. An explanation was all that was required from you. So yes we were reading the same thread, it seems the comprehension was different

 

[Brawny]

Could you email me. I completely forgot that I was tagged in to someone else’s thread and all this conversation has been going on.
I apologize for that @Trenity .

This actually is pertaining to this thread. I have gear on hand from this source and I want to have it tested for peace of mind. If I send you an unopened vial, then it defeats the purpose. I’m willing to purchase small sterile vials, but sending in an entire vial does nothing to verify my personal amounts.

If I have 3 on hand and I send in an entire vial, then I’m down to 2 vials. Not even worth testing at that point. But I’d be willing to send in .5mL from my current stash.

 

[MiaRage22]

I know these are old batches, but those who have them would rather not want to toss gear out/money for that matter.

Yes, the new batches are being tested but like some said; it’s all about trust. The source could be sending anything (hell pharm grade) or could be sending the real deal. The testers could be analyzing correctly or have agendas themselves.

The members sending samples as well.

And so on, and so on....

I know @Trenity said day times were tough for him to be active, but at times like this is when your presence is most needed. The internet/forum/your thread is blowing up, get in here!!!!

This is a crazy situation where everyone, and I mean everyone (for the most part) has a valid point.... WOW

 

[Weights & Measures]

This actually is pertaining to this thread. I have gear on hand from this source and I want to have it tested for peace of mind. If I send you an unopened vial, then it defeats the purpose. I’m willing to purchase small sterile vials, but sending in an entire vial does nothing to verify my personal amounts.

If I have 3 on hand and I send in an entire vial, then I’m down to 2 vials. Not even worth testing at that point. But I’d be willing to send in .5mL from my current stash.

I'm sorry man; but I've made up my mind about this.
I swear, it is nothing personal at all. You have been genuine, respectful, and reasonable in your communication: and I am appreciative of that. I'm just unable to go around in these circles with so many variables again. The only sure way I know of to remove one of the variables of contamination is to remove one of the hands that touch the material.
I understand, this is very inconvenient; but this new policy will remain.

 

[TX_Hempknight]

I'm sorry man; but I've made up my mind about this.
I swear, it is nothing personal at all. You have been genuine, respectful, and reasonable in your communication: and I am appreciative of that. I'm just unable to go around in these circles with so many variables again. The only sure way I know of to remove one of the variables of contamination is to remove one of the hands that touch the material.
I understand, this is very inconvenient; but this new policy will remain.

As much as I understand where you are coming from, some samples can get pretty costly. Then adding your service plus shipping, this can get pretty expensive and put alot of potential clients out. I dont have a dog in the fight, just my observation.

What do you do with the samples after you have tested them?

If they tested well, I know what I might do with them....GAINZZZZ!!!

 

[88general88]

How about you try to gather some respect for other people when you type? Or just not type at all.
Also, if you are in the mood to punk me out in text; tag me so I don’t come across this by happenstance. Or did you intend to be rough and tough; but eliminate my counter by not tagging me?
The sender and I discussed the validity of the test before it was performed; and he agreed to proceed.

You are right; I should have required unopened vials long ago.

I have an opinion guy, if you dont like it, i don't really care. I had you back regarding you 18gauge hypothesis. i did not intentionally not tag you. i knew you were involved in the conversation, no reason to tag you. If you call me asking you to be accountable, punking you, then i think you are extremely sensitive. i don't have an issue with you per se, i have an issue with how conducted business, in that situation. Nothing else. If you and the sender had a prior arrangement dont you think that would be something you might want to let people know?????? I am not a chemist, and it doesnt sound like you are either. i have a great amount of respect for people of science. Its okay for me to point things out, such as how you made comments on maturity, and were willing to almost give a lesson in business eithics yet, but yet you thought it was appropriate to allow a sender to send in a botched sample. agreement or not. doesnt come off as very responsible. If you dont like what i have to say then change it. all it is is feedback. If it doesnt apply, let it fly.

i applaud you for acknowledging, that you should have change method for collecting samples long ago.

 

[Weights & Measures]

If you took what I said as an accusation, maybe re read it with a fresh set of eyes.

My only issue was that supposedly to testers tested the same sample with different results.
If you don't believe that deserves clarification and instead it's a direct shot at you man I don't know what to tell you.

@jano explained his results and even posted a graph, which wasn't on my g.e.d test so it's out of my league. An explanation was all that was required from you. So yes we were reading the same thread, it seems the comprehension was different

Man you are right.
I read in your post "deserve a retest" and completely overlooked "or explanation". My fault. Please accept my apology.