Proof that SF (and/or) Sciroxx gear is good to go.

You are only taking 100mg Test Prop EOD and your test levels are in the 4000 range? If this is the case your Test Prop is way overdosed. For me this is a problem!!!

mands

Yeah I thought that was a little high. I'm not sure the reason for this. I got bloods the day after pinning, about 12 hours later, does that have anything to do with it, was the release of test at its peak?

Theres not much research on it, but I found something that state those taking a similar dosage as me with Test Prop only received increases of 1200-1600 ng/dl. So I don't know how the hell mine is so high, I've only been cycling for 3 weeks, maybe I'm still producing test naturally?

I'd love some input on this, what kind of increases would one normally see from 100mg prop EOD?

Also I've been taking no AI for my estrogen as it hasn't been a problem in terms of nipple sensitivty and bloat doesn't bother me, but are my levels high enough to warrant taking an AI preventatively? Is there a certain level of estriadol that most people hit to somehow eventually trigger gyno? Its weird that my estrogen is only 3x my baseline yet my test around 6.5.

More validation
after 6 weeks use
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thanks SF, working as expected

They don't tell you you're exact levels? Thats no fun.
 
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You are only taking 100mg Test Prop EOD and your test levels are in the 4000 range? If this is the case your Test Prop is way overdosed. For me this is a problem!!!

mands

This is a problem for me as well. I'm using their test p for TRT and I have blood work scheduled for Friday. :confused:
 
I have been taking only 300mg a week for 6 weeks and i am having a great time.
Feels like I am 20 again. More strength, more sex and I feel great about myself. I am just sad I only have 6 weeks left.
 
I have been taking only 300mg a week for 6 weeks and i am having a great time.
Feels like I am 20 again. More strength, more sex and I feel great about myself. I am just sad I only have 6 weeks left.

Well, if you say you feel like you're 20 again, you must be at LEAST 30? Why the fuck don't you just stay on the shit? Fucking lame ass posts/advertising....you're a dick.
 
32 to be exact... What the fuck crawled up your vag...?

I apologize, zeno. I do. I'm on a sick one and getting fed up with some shit. I disrespected you. My paranoia got me there....I forgot who you were and should've checked your posts before I made an assumption.
I'm in SoCal....you're around here somewhere kinda close? I've got this banging surena purring right here next to me. If I could hand her to you, I would. Again, I'm sorry.
 
That's WHY I said they were PEAK levels, BUT I didn't notice the dosage of 100mg of T-p QOD, lol!

Ive been ordering labs a LONG TIME and MANDS is on spot someone is lacing products, perhaps for reviews, IMO!

[:o)]
 
Curious TA were u provided a "free" $250.00 cycle as originally described in the original SF thread?
 
OP now let's make sure I understand U correctly, when were the labs drawn AFTER U last pinned? 12 hours are U sure?
 
I apologize, zeno. I do. I'm on a sick one and getting fed up with some shit. I disrespected you. My paranoia got me there....I forgot who you were and should've checked your posts before I made an assumption.
I'm in SoCal....you're around here somewhere kinda close? I've got this banging surena purring right here next to me. If I could hand her to you, I would. Again, I'm sorry.

You are similarly incorrect when you make the same assumption about other members.


That's WHY I said they were PEAK levels, BUT I didn't notice the dosage of 100mg of T-p QOD, lol!

Ive been ordering labs a LONG TIME and MANDS is on spot someone is lacing products, perhaps for reviews, IMO!

[:o)]


I completely agree. 4000+ is off the charts, and much more than I would expect from 350mg/wk.

Overdosed? Perhaps. Only Karl and/or his brewer(s) would know for sure.

I am glad that we have at least one other customer who is on prop and expecting bloodwork in the very near future. So, we will have another test from which to draw conclusions.
 
Curious TA were u provided a "free" $250.00 cycle as originally described in the original SF thread?


Damn Jim....can I get 48 hrs?? [:o)]

lol. The OP will receive any and everything promised. Since he was the first to post bloodwork.

Crazy we go from 0 to 2 sets of results in one day.
 
You are similarly incorrect when you make the same assumption about other members.





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My apology was not extended to any other "members". You may not like me.....but you also know I'm not an idiot.
I also know you're not an idiot and know where I'm coming from and what I'm talking about.
You don't need to be the mouthpiece for every swinging dick that shows up in a thread about your business. I've said good things about your stuff.
I may have an ego and perhaps I'm wrong, but my tone in your threads is doing more good for your business than any "member" that has just signed up sucking you off. No?
 
Well lets see SF
1 test above 4K (should be thrown in the junk pile)

2nd test above 1.5K yet WO serial dilution performed (So WHO KNOWS what the value really is. (Should be chunked in the indeterminate file)

3rd test is pending, thus in actuality we would be relying on one PENDING assay at best to determine legitimacy? (Should be thrown into the pending file)

Wasn't that EXACTLY the point of my original criticism, the reliance on a singular test same from one individual to determine if a "lab or source was GTG"? YEP!

Oh and good God SF stop the incessant "protecting my sheep" nonsense, it really diminishes YOUR credibility.

I mean after all the OP posted HIS results let HIM defend them!

Jim
 
Well lets see SF
1 test above 4K (should be thrown in the junk pile)

2nd test above 1.5K yet WO serial dilution performed (So WHO KNOWS what the value really is. (Should be chunked in the indeterminate file)

3rd test is pending, thus in actuality we would be relying on one PENDING assay at best to determine legitimacy? (Should be thrown into the pending file)

Wasn't that EXACTLY the point of my original criticism, the reliance n a singular test same from one individual to determine if a "lab or source was GTG"? YEP!

Oh and good God SF stop the incessant "protecting my sheep" nonsense, it really diminishes YOUR credibility.

I mean after all the OP posted HIS results let HIM defend them!

Jim

I didn't think we needed any defending.

Or his results needed defending. I was just trying to respond to the "overdosed" comment with the fact that I am even more curious now to see the results of our other customer because he is also on a propionate cycle, which makes his results extremely intriguing.
 
Oh and one more point of contention, I believe it a rare occurrence BB is/was unduly critical of ANY mate, especially noobs or novices, on this forum but he most certainly does not coddle them as future business bedfellows with dollar signs in those eyes!

How refreshing and unbiased, don't you think SF!

:)
 
"Extremely intriguing" LMAO! Is that the best you can do?

Hint, give unreliable a try.
Goodness your bias rings as bells on Christmas.

Oddly u never mentioned "how intriguing" those levels were in spite of throwing the OP several "likes" until after other Meso mates became incredulous about their validity!

A certain degree of objectivity may prove useful, IMO!
 
Oh and one more point of contention, I believe it a rare occurrence BB is/was unduly critical of ANY mate, especially noobs or novices, on this forum but he most certainly does not coddle them as future business bedfellows with dollar signs in those eyes!

How refreshing and unbiased, don't you think SF!

:)

I see your point, but not the contention.

BB is rarely overly critical of noobs. I do however, feel he jumps the gun with the "shill label" at times.

We are all biased. If I have a friend, or a friend of a friend, who is a source, I am going to be biased towards that source. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing evil about it.

Ben recently questioned a noob on his nutrition, and cycling experience when the noob called into question the legitimacy of HCL. A lab Ben had previously been supportive of. I would venture a guess that Ben knows someone involved with HCL whether it be a REP or otherwise....and due to that personal knowledge, combined with HCL being good 2 go for some time led Ben to assume the noob who called HCL into question may be doing something else wrong ( nutrition...overtraining...etc..) which would cause him to blame the potency of the gear.

My point is simply, that anyone can be wrong. Ben, Millard, Jim, Mands....or any other vet is capable of assuming a first time poster is a shill....or assuming a lab that was good 2 go last month is still good 2 go this month.

What I appreciate about Ben is his honesty. Ive always known right where I stand
 
"Extremely intriguing" LMAO! Is that the best you can do?

Hint, give unreliable a try.
Goodness your bias rings as bells on Christmas.

Oddly u never mentioned "how intriguing" those levels were in spite of throwing the OP several "likes" until after other Meso mates became incredulous about their validity!

A certain degree of objectivity may prove useful, IMO!

I'm not going to allow the future to emulate our past Jim.
 
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