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looking to make a sizeable order of primo / test but im worried about dropping that much $.. is there a way to help guarantee quality of my specific batch of raws coming my way? primo is notoriously faked and i dont wanna drop that cash unless im sure

no disrespect meant whatsoever
 
Kamon said:
looking to make a sizeable order of primo / test but im worried about dropping that much $.. is there a way to help guarantee quality of my specific batch of raws coming my way? primo is notoriously faked and i dont wanna drop that cash unless im sure

no disrespect meant whatsoever
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Do you have a reason to not trust the quality of our raws? This isn't meant as bragging, but the number of labs that use our raws is staggering. There'd be problems worldwide if we're were sending out problematic products.
 
PandaRep said:
Do you have a reason to not trust the quality of our raws? This isn't meant as bragging, but the number of labs that use our raws is staggering. There'd be problems worldwide if we're were sending out problematic products.
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when orders go into 4 digits for personal use it becomes a necessary question i feel to ask, no disrespect but it helps knowing the same gusto is given to a homebrewer as a full company.. espiceally with such a notoriously faked compound

i hope you can see it from my perspective
 
Kamon said:
when orders go into 4 digits for personal use it becomes a necessary question i feel to ask, no disrespect but it helps knowing the same gusto is given to a homebrewer as a full company.. espiceally with such a notoriously faked compound

i hope you can see it from my perspective
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Dude you're good. I get it.
And not to be disrespectful, again I don't think people realize the staggering amount of labs that we supply. Many labs on this forum. Our raws totally stand on their own. If there was a problem with say our primo, the forums would be burning with complaints, that just aren't there.

What can I say to help with your concern?
 
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Remember we do have some domestic raws here
Test Cyp and test E
Cialis raws.
The tests are $3/gm
Cialis is $2/gm
$150 min
$15 shipping
Packs will ship within 48hrs of payment. Priority usps
 
Is no one going to mention the added inventory? A number of lab stuff got put up. Nice for newbies and small timers. Who knows maybe some of the shit head labs here who last a week can now last a whole month.

Most of it is straight but I love the no news/announcements. Like it's all no big deal and it was an afterthought to mention it. "Oh yeah we got new products. I forgot my bad."
 
newphonewhodis said:
Is no one going to mention the added inventory? A number of lab stuff got put up. Nice for newbies and small timers. Who knows maybe some of the shit head labs here who last a week can now last a whole month.

Most of it is straight but I love the no news/announcements. Like it's all no big deal and it was an afterthought to mention it. "Oh yeah we got new products. I forgot my bad."
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We were waiting for you.
 
Recently switched from cypionate to enanthate after having meh.bloods results on total t score with the cyp, after a couple shots on the enanthate immediately feel a surge in strength and libido, have posted on another forum and it got swept under the rug as always but thought id share my insight
 
kangacamel said:
Recently switched from cypionate to enanthate after having meh.bloods results on total t score with the cyp, after a couple shots on the enanthate immediately feel a surge in strength and libido, have posted on another forum and it got swept under the rug as always but thought id share my insight
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What exactly is your insight?
 
kangacamel said:
Possibly a bad batch of test cyp raws? Dare i say that anyway noone actually cares enough, for whatever reason the enan 'feels' better
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So here's the deal.... When we buy raws, especially high demand stuff like test cyp, we buy drums of it. Not a few kilos, thousands of kilos. We supply man labs around the world. Along with, as you'd imagine, thousands of home Brewers and little local labs. So when one guy buys 50gms of test or something me other raw and claims it didn't do anything, or it didn't brew right, it's met with a massive amount of skepticism. That whole purchase, which was tested for purity and content prior to sale, would be bad. That equates to millions, and that's a true number , of vials of bad gear. Either brewed by one of the major labs we supply, or Joe Home Brewer. And that just doesn't happen.

I get these messages alot. Once I start asking questions they always fold, or cannot provide real data on their purchase and process.

So if the our test cyp didn't work right for you, and forgive the harshness, it's probably on you. If you can provide some data to back up your claim, namely independent lab tests from a sealed container then we need to talk.


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And I'll saw this, there's a large amount of trust here, you trust us with your hard earned money to send you real products and we trust you not to totally BS us if something goes wrong.

We also don't work off of feelings. Or side effects.
I cannot feel the difference between 500mg of test and a gram. Blood work shows a clear difference though. The only time I "feel" the difference is when I've been on for say 2 months, and drop back down to 200mg/week, then after a few weeks I can feel it.

Get some blood work, send some picks of the Raws, tell us your brewing process. No one's sweeping you under the rug.
 
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PandaRep said:
So here's the deal.... When we buy raws, especially high demand stuff like test cyp, we buy drums of it. Not a few kilos, thousands of kilos. We supply man labs around the world. Along with, as you'd imagine, thousands of home Brewers and little local labs. So when one guy buys 50gms of test or something me other raw and claims it didn't do anything, or it didn't brew right, it's met with a massive amount of skepticism. That whole purchase, which was tested for purity and content prior to sale, would be bad. That equates to millions, and that's a true number , of vials of bad gear. Either brewed by one of the major labs we supply, or Joe Home Brewer. And that just doesn't happen.

I get these messages alot. Once I start asking questions they always fold, or cannot provide real data on their purchase and process.

So if the our test cyp didn't work right for you, and forgive the harshness, it's probably on you. If you can provide some data to back up your claim, namely independent lab tests from a sealed container then we need to talk.


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And I'll saw this, there's a large amount of trust here, you trust us with your hard earned money to send you real products and we trust you not to totally BS us if something goes wrong.

We also don't work off of feelings. Or side effects.
I cannot feel the difference between 500mg of test and a gram. Blood work shows a clear difference though. The only time I "feel" the difference is when I've been on for say 2 months, and drop back down to 200mg/week, then after a few weeks I can feel it.

Get some blood work, send some picks of the Raws, tell us your brewing process. No one's sweeping you under the rug.
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And look i get it, there is always a element of fault on my part, and there is a level of trust which is why when i say i bring this matter upon the board it isnt to start shit because i have a vendetta, its actually the opposite, ive ordered from PPL for years now and i only get frustrated with bad blood scores because i want to believe bo matter what im going to get what i payed for and to a high quality

Ive had the bloods and this is the deal, i was running more total milligram than a previous blood test and got less than 2/3 the total t score than the 1st bloods

I was running 800mg deca solo from ppl raws backa while ago and got a total t score of 309ish n/mol which is awesome (for those that dont know, deca is picked up as total t in a non lcms test)

Fast forwars to a month ago i scored only 178 total t running 750mg test cyp, 600mg deca and 400mg tren e all PPL raws, so 1350 total mgs of raws that pick up as total t on an assay vs 800mg yet i got a much lower total t value

It made me question the cyp raws because 750mg test alone pharma puts me at higher than the 179

Also e2 was 10x the reference range but that is what i could only put down to trens interference on the assay

Ill post pics of the bloods

See my issue? More total mg of gear and much less total t score, it just makes me question is all, im not bashing ppl but i have the hard evidence and im just confused
 
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