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[kangacamel]

It reads as TT, therefore it’s skewed. It’s inaccurate. I said SOME only test to 52, the one I personally get is capped at 120, due to inaccuracy above that amount. If you want to keep this intelligent, start with you reading comprehension. Then start with getting your raws analyzed instead of just your feelz report.

Feelz report? I literally have blood work... hard factual evidence.. you need to learn some common sense no offence, if im taking xyz milligrams of testosterone amd get xyz total t readin and ADD nandrolone which is PROVEN clinically to falsely elevate total t readings and i get a score that is lower than expected even for the testosterone alone you expect me to not want to raise a question?

Im genuinely a fair guy and im not here to pick fights i just want some intelligent answers???

If someone said to me oh when you take those drugs together and showed me evidence it lower the result or something then ok cool, but so far all i get is "nah your mixing compounds you cant trust the bloods" and its frustrating..

Frustrating because ive used panda for many years without hiccup and put alot of faith into his services so ofcourse if something doesnt come up right im gonna ask some questions.. but not one person is yet to chime in with some common sense..

Fark me...

 

[Villain]

Feelz report? I literally have blood work... hard factual evidence.. you need to learn some common sense no offence, if im taking xyz milligrams of testosterone amd get xyz total t readin and ADD nandrolone which is PROVEN clinically to falsely elevate total t readings and i get a score that is lower than expected even for the testosterone alone you expect me to not want to raise a question?

Im genuinely a fair guy and im not here to pick fights i just want some intelligent answers???

If someone said to me oh when you take those drugs together and showed me evidence it lower the result or something then ok cool, but so far all i get is "nah your mixing compounds you cant trust the bloods" and its frustrating..

Frustrating because ive used panda for many years without hiccup and put alot of faith into his services so ofcourse if something doesnt come up right im gonna ask some questions.. but not one person is yet to chime in with some common sense..

Fark me...

Bloodwork is subjective. The only way to know is to have your brew or raws tested or both.

 

[Masterofron]

Since when is bloodwork considered factual evidence lol?

 

[kangacamel]

Since when is bloodwork considered factual evidence lol?

So you get less than desireable blood values and your ok with it??

This is whats wrong with people you have no care for real world data, broscience is all you need apparently...

 

[PandaRep]

So you get less than desireable blood values and your ok with it??

This is whats wrong with people you have no care for real world data, broscience is all you need apparently...

No sir. Deca doesn't show up as testosterone on blood work. Neither will tren. You don't like that reply so you're still going.

You're one of like 10,000+ people that got raws from that batch. You're the only one that's complaining that it was bunk. Ponder that. The only one.

Please provide the data that shows deca raising total test levels.

 

[kangacamel]

No sir. Deca doesn't show up as testosterone on blood work. Neither will tren. You don't like that reply so you're still going.

You're one of like 10,000+ people that got raws from that batch. You're the only one that's complaining that it was bunk. Ponder that. The only one.

Please provide the data that shows deca raising total test levels.

It does, i will dig it up, and if it doesnt (which im certain it does) then the bloods showing 309 above were running your deca by ITSELF....

Many people on here know it has cross reactivity in roche/eclia assay and shows a false high on total t, the fact you refuse to believe it shows how much you really know

 

[kangacamel]

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/reviews/k093421.pdf

Page 7 of FDA approval showing Nandrolone has cross reaction on Roche ECLIA reads high testosterone

 

[kangacamel]

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[Konrev]

Yah everybody knows nandrolone shows up as total test in non-LC/MS blood tests. Same as tren shows up as E2 in non-sensitive readings.

 

[kangacamel]

Yah everybody knows nandrolone shows up as total test in non-LC/MS blood tests. Same as tren shows up as E2 in non-sensitive readings.

Apparently not @PandaRep ...

 

[PandaRep]

It does, i will dig it up, and if it doesnt (which im certain it does) then the bloods showing 309 above were running your deca by ITSELF....

Many people on here know it has cross reactivity in roche/eclia assay and shows a false high on total t, the fact you refuse to believe it shows how much you really know

Here's what I believe, I personally have blood work from npp showing no difference in total test vs blood work with no npp, same test dose. It's not a high npp dose, but never the less

I've also asked you at least 3, and probably more times to provide a unboxing video of the product, you sent me picture of a zip lock bag and an empty container. (Do not discuss stealth here)

Deca is one of those substances that we sell thousands of kilos. To different labs around the world to home brewer's. That equates to millions of finished vials. Yet you're the only one that complains.

At the beginning your complaint was about bad test e, and apparently you took that somewhere else and they blew you off. Then it was about test cyp. And now it's about the deca. Or is it about the cyp?

It's been stated by here a few posts back that the blood work is subjective, meaning you've run 3 different compounds and you won't get black and white results. You've posted blood work that shows 6x the max natural levels on 750mg of test. 6 times man. I suggest you run a baseline 500-750mg cycle and see just how your body reacts. It won't be 6X the natural maximum limit.

I'm sorry you haven't gotten the results you have been seeking. Either through our products or my customer service. Maybe home brewing isn't for you. Maybe you should stick to finished good, because the millions of vials ,with our products in them show no issue.

 

[kangacamel]

Here's what I believe, I personally have blood work from npp showing no difference in total test vs blood work with no npp, same test dose. It's not a high npp dose, but never the less

I've also asked you at least 3, and probably more times to provide a unboxing video of the product, you sent me picture of a zip lock bag and an empty container. (Do not discuss stealth here)

Deca is one of those substances that we sell thousands of kilos. To different labs around the world to home brewer's. That equates to millions of finished vials. Yet you're the only one that complains.

At the beginning your complaint was about bad test e, and apparently you took that somewhere else and they blew you off. Then it was about test cyp. And now it's about the deca. Or is it about the cyp?

It's been stated by here a few posts back that the blood work is subjective, meaning you've run 3 different compounds and you won't get black and white results. You've posted blood work that shows 6x the max natural levels on 750mg of test. 6 times man. I suggest you run a baseline 500-750mg cycle and see just how your body reacts. It won't be 6X the natural maximum limit.

I'm sorry you haven't gotten the results you have been seeking. Either through our products or my customer service. Maybe home brewing isn't for you. Maybe you should stick to finished good, because the millions of vials ,with our products in them show no issue.

I told you like 6 times i could show you a video unboxing them because how the hell can i when i unboxed and brewed it up weeks ago?? Thats fucking stupid

What do you mean do i meam deca or cyp? All my arguments are leading to the same fucking point, are you afraid to admit you were wrong that nandrolone shows up as test on a total test assay that isnt sensitive lc-ms? Because i posted evidence and i havent heard a whisper from you about it after that..

Im seriously done everytime i try to deal with you guys its just SWEEP IT UNDER THE RUG

you have 0 clue about bloods or testing or multipliers and clearly lack even basic common sense

Highly dissapointed in your services as a rep and its a shame someone so unknowledgable is even a rep...

I tried to be reasonable and showed all avenues in which i was leading to the one point but you seem to love to either believe your own broscience bullshit OR just ignore fact

Be warned people if you have an issue with product you will not be helped, you will just be led through hoops that lead to nowhere and in the end just be told "youre wrong"

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Highly dissapointed in customer service

 

[BodyMechanic]

@kangacamel of you read the PPL site it explicit tells you to record your unboxing. No matter when it happened.

If you have any of the gear left send it out to have it tested and post it. Any other argument is moot.

 

[kangacamel]

@kangacamel of you read the PPL site it explicit tells you to record your unboxing. No matter when it happened.

If you have any of the gear left send it out to have it tested and post it. Any other argument is moot.

What would that do anyway you can see by the way its being handled id just be told im wrong anyway... the rep of a fucking lab didnt even know deca falsely raises tt on a non sensitive assay... and we 'trust' this guy with customer service..

 

[PandaRep]

What would that do anyway you can see by the way its being handled id just be told im wrong anyway... the rep of a fucking lab didnt even know deca falsely raises tt on a non sensitive assay... and we 'trust' this guy with customer service..

Why would we ask for a video? Chain of custody. Proof. You're still not getting it. Which is why whom ever you spoke to before didn't listen to you either, we sell a large amount to all sorts of labs, and some labs receive raws from the same factories, it's no secret. And you're the only one with a problem. Literally, the only one of the millions of vials of oils produced from the same Raws.

If you're so "educated" you'd think you'd know the golden rule of buying AAS, video the unboxing. Video the weights. Hell, video the melt test. It prevents scammers from barking about bunk gear or crying when 750mg of test only yeilding 6x the max baseline.

We're done here man. I'm sorry you haven't had a good experience. Again I'd suggest you purchase some finished oils, and run a baseline lab.

 

[BodyMechanic]

What would that do anyway you can see by the way its being handled id just be told im wrong anyway... the rep of a fucking lab didnt even know deca falsely raises tt on a non sensitive assay... and we 'trust' this guy with customer service..

Bro I totally understand your dilema, but the only way to put this to bed is hplc. And trust me I have no affiliation with PPL.

I have been in your spot a couple of times. I took a different approach.

I am by no means implying my issues where with PPL, it was other ugls.

First experience- I sent my gear to test. Got results, they were bad. Ugl refunded me.

Second time- I dragged these ugl dudes through the mud posted all kinds of LabMax results and was pissed. They refunded me, I agreed to return the gear. I kept a couple of tablets at their suggestion. Months later I sent those two tablets for hplc (once I found affordable lab) and results were 100% good. I also posted those results and ate my crow. I deserved it.

In the end, have it tested bro. 3rd party will prove your suspicions. By the way, the best way to try and persuade someone is to do it nicely and in private. If that fails go public. Not sure if you did that, but just advice.

 

[kangacamel]

Bro I totally understand your dilema, but the only way to put this to bed is hplc. And trust me I have no affiliation with PPL.

I have been in your spot a couple of times. I took a different approach.

I am by no means implying my issues where with PPL, it was other ugls.

First experience- I sent my gear to test. Got results, they were bad. Ugl refunded me.

Second time- I dragged these ugl dudes through the mud posted all kinds of LabMax results and was pissed. They refunded me, I agreed to return the gear. I kept a couple of tablets at their suggestion. Months later I sent those two tablets for hplc (once I found affordable lab) and results were 100% good. I also posted those results and ate my crow. I deserved it.

In the end, have it tested bro. 3rd party will prove your suspicions. By the way, the best way to try and persuade someone is to do it nicely and in private. If that fails go public. Not sure if you did that, but just advice.

If i spent the hundreds to send it off to get tested i doubt they would refund me if it was wrong because apparently i should have videod the fucking unboxing

 

[BodyMechanic]

Communication bro. Talk to PPL. Ask em what lab testing they would go honor. jano or lab4tox?? I know it's expensive, but worth the pease of mind. Also the reason I do raws. You can test a large batch with one test. Instead of a bunch of individual vials etc...

 

[kangacamel]

Why would we ask for a video? Chain of custody. Proof. You're still not getting it. Which is why whom ever you spoke to before didn't listen to you either, we sell a large amount to all sorts of labs, and some labs receive raws from the same factories, it's no secret. And you're the only one with a problem. Literally, the only one of the millions of vials of oils produced from the same Raws.

If you're so "educated" you'd think you'd know the golden rule of buying AAS, video the unboxing. Video the weights. Hell, video the melt test. It prevents scammers from barking about bunk gear or crying when 750mg of test only yeilding 6x the max baseline.

We're done here man. I'm sorry you haven't had a good experience. Again I'd suggest you purchase some finished oils, and run a baseline lab.

With what ive provided you would you honour a reimbursement of testing fees if i sent off 1. The actual raws of the cyp 2. The finished product i brewed

If not fine but i have to ask

If the raws come back good and my brew off ill eat my words and say i fucked up the brew, but if raws are off have i provided you enough evidence you would even do a reimbursement and if so which analytic?

 

[PandaRep]

With what ive provided you would you honour a reimbursement of testing fees if i sent off 1. The actual raws of the cyp 2. The finished product i brewed

If not fine but i have to ask

If the raws come back good and my brew off ill eat my words and say i fucked up the brew, but if raws are off have i provided you enough evidence you would even do a reimbursement and if so which analytic?

Do you have a video of the unboxing?