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[AnTabolic73]

Ony did DNP once. I didn't get the "heat" from it like many say. However it did for sure work. However, I don't think I would ever use it again as when I got to the point where I was taking a dose that really started to make a real dramatic difference, I felt like such garbage it wasn't worth it.

It has its place for some, but I will for sure not use it again.

I tried it once too. Got hives from it. I will never use again either.

 

[Sampei]

The fact you say agree to disagree , like a gentleman , YET in the following sentence say "only ppl fucked up in the head would use it" Is quite ironic - I will go with the gentleman route ... I have gotten in TRUE contest shape ( 5 +- % bodyfat) For at least 6 times before ever trying DNP. Whenever I implemented it it was NEVER to get as shredded as possible but RATHER to crunch down the Minicut phase / insulin re sensitization phase in an offseason for 2 weeks Max . Something a GLP cannot and will not achieve in just 2 weeks. I definitely dont consider myself " Fucked in the head " but at the same time - let's face it - we are all enhancing for MOSTLY aesthetic reasons to varying degrees - so perhaps sure - we are a bit fucked in the head . But to say there is NO PLACE for it is moronic .... I find blanket statements / True absolute statements to be moronic in general ... It's the right tool for the right job ... Now if you are inexperienced and pop 800 migs of DNP coz you read somewhere you should - then there is where I agree - you are fucked up..

DO YOU NEED DNP ? Absolutely not.... but then I would argue - DO you NEED GLP's ? im not one of those typical lads saying " OH You dont need glp's just put the fork down "

Unless clinically hypo - DO YOU NEED TEST? DO YOU NEED TREN ? DO YOU NEED MAST? ... Where do you draw the line mate?

You don't need anything in the end but you could have increased back your insulin sensitivity with more time and in a healthier approach.

I draw personally a line on risk ratio benefit and DNP is well beyond that line.

You can do whatever you want with your body but you will not convince me that DNP is a good instrument in our arsenal, it is an effective instrument? Sure as hell, it works very well, is it worth the risk? For me no. It's crazy shit and I'll always advocate against.

You can't compare a toxic POISON SUBSTANCE with a glp1 or even fucking tren. I mean tren compared to DNP it's a candy

 

[nullandvoid]

DNP worked for me but felt more brute force than necessary. Lost a good amount of fat, probably around double the rate of a reasonable deficit for me, but it just wasn't worth the discomfort. Also had to work through some neuropathic itching afterwards on my feet, where I'd end up scratching sores because the itching was so bad. Fortunately, it went away.

 

[youwhat?]

I personally didnt think reta was better than Tirz and I absolutely hated sema. Reta actually made me ravenously hungry for the first 2 weeks.

Reta made me crave sweets which is a rarity for me. Had to stop it for that reason.

 

[pipo]

You don't need anything in the end but you could have increased back your insulin sensitivity with more time and in a healthier approach.

I draw personally a line on risk ratio benefit and DNP is well beyond that line.

You can do whatever you want with your body but you will not convince me that DNP is a good instrument in our arsenal, it is an effective instrument? Sure as hell, it works very well, is it worth the risk? For me no. It's crazy shit and I'll always advocate against.

You can't compare a toxic POISON SUBSTANCE with a glp1 or even fucking tren. I mean tren compared to DNP it's a candy

What risk are you referring to? DNP is like a gun. It's not dangerous it's dangerous if who handle the gun has no idea what he is doing.
DNP can be used very effective without problems. Poison is in dosage but you can't OD on this if you read only for 5 minutes how to administered.

But again bro science

 

[exilol]

What risk are you referring to? DNP is like a gun. It's not dangerous it's dangerous if who handle the gun has no idea what he is doing.
DNP can be used very effective without problems. Poison is in dosage but you can't OD on this if you read only for 5 minutes how to administered.

But again bro science

Exactly my point! The devil is always in the dose! T3 is medicine - Certainly not seen as a "poison" Take enough of it and watch your heart fail... Clen ? The same. Insulin? Used to preserve life and wasting away - od on it and you die .... I have no doubt some people cant tolerate DNP - and for those I'd say - best not to use it .. Now if you CAN tolerate it and are educated enough ... Use it responsibly when you " Need " to

 

[BalticSea]

We all have different risk tolerances in terms of our use of various drugs discussed here. For many, yes, DNP can be used effectively. I have seen this play out countless times on bodybuilding forums. Both in terms of contest prep and otherwise. However, this tends to be very seasoned veterans to this lifestyle with years if not decades of practical experience.

The problem? Look around this forum. There are many users who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. People like that messing with DNP is a recipe for disaster. This is why there is such a cautionary tone surrounding it and drugs like it. Somebody fucks around and lands themselves in the ER from DNP and there is very little emergency docs can do for them other than supportive care and hope they don't die.

After i use DNP in low dosage (400mg ed) in the year 2018, i lose my pump feeling 4 ever. No joke!
Since them, i need Viagra or Cialis for a good pump feeling in the gym or a rest time between the sets of only 15-30 seconds.
Thanks DNP

 

[pipo]

Exactly my point! The devil is always in the dose! T3 is medicine - Certainly not seen as a "poison" Take enough of it and watch your heart fail... Clen ? The same. Insulin? Used to preserve life and wasting away - od on it and you die .... I have no doubt some people cant tolerate DNP - and for those I'd say - best not to use it .. Now if you CAN tolerate it and are educated enough ... Use it responsibly when you " Need " to

You can't kill yourself with insulin. Is a documented case of a guy trying to commit suicide and took 3 ml of insulin and ended in er. After he was released the next day he took a whole box 15 ml and in ended in hospital again and released in 2 days.

 

[iris]

Exactly my point! The devil is always in the dose! T3 is medicine - Certainly not seen as a "poison" Take enough of it and watch your heart fail... Clen ? The same. Insulin? Used to preserve life and wasting away - od on it and you die .... I have no doubt some people cant tolerate DNP - and for those I'd say - best not to use it .. Now if you CAN tolerate it and are educated enough ... Use it responsibly when you " Need " to

It's like a gun, it's all in the dose, it's just a tool, etc.
Fair enough.
If one wants to use it, it can be easily found.
The same way the potential for things to go wrong are there to be investigated and assessed, with one's own risk tolerance.
One may have a very different experience than yours, on the same dose, in any case.

What I think, since everyone here looks at the "pros", how many grams of gear they may take, etc.. is that those are people for whom numbers and outcomes in relation to their body are fundamental and approached methodically.

Sure, that's the only thing they have to do, but I am pretty sure that, nowadays, nobody that does bodybuilding for a living touches this stuff or would put themselves in a position where they have to lose fat in 2 weeks or else.
In 2024, there is a lot more knowledge and better tools to achieve that with better health outcomes, without having to resort to the unpredictability of utilising a tool you refer to as "a gun".

But for the ones that are training just because and absolutely need to lose fat in 2 weeks flat, in what for them is the "educated way", just crack on.

 

[pipo]

After i use DNP in low dosage (400mg ed) in the year 2018, i lose my pump feeling 4 ever. No joke!
Since them, i need Viagra or Cialis for a good pump feeling in the gym or a rest time between the sets of only 15-30 seconds.
Thanks DNP

400 mg is not a low dosage...

 

[Middus]

Exactly my point! The devil is always in the dose! T3 is medicine - Certainly not seen as a "poison" Take enough of it and watch your heart fail... Clen ? The same. Insulin? Used to preserve life and wasting away - od on it and you die .... I have no doubt some people cant tolerate DNP - and for those I'd say - best not to use it .. Now if you CAN tolerate it and are educated enough ... Use it responsibly when you " Need " to

The poison is in the safety margins. The narrower the safety margin the less useful it is outside of a well regulated setting

 

[BuildABro]

DAMN dude, are you for real?

After i use DNP in low dosage (400mg ed) in the year 2018, i lose my pump feeling 4 ever. No joke!
Since them, i need Viagra or Cialis for a good pump feeling in the gym or a rest time between the sets of only 15-30 seconds.
Thanks DNP

 

[BP_6]

DNP probably has one of the greatest direct correlation with dosage in terms of effectiveness and sides. The more you take, the better it works and the sides also get much worse as well.

 

[iris]

After i use DNP in low dosage (400mg ed) in the year 2018, i lose my pump feeling 4 ever. No joke!
Since them, i need Viagra or Cialis for a good pump feeling in the gym or a rest time between the sets of only 15-30 seconds.
Thanks DNP

What you took is a lot, isn't it, especially when you consider the half life.

Yet, someone gave the thumbs up to this post.
Yay

 

[DugPrime]

DNP probably has one of the greatest direct correlation with dosage in terms of effectiveness and sides. The more you take, the better it works and the sides also get much worse as well.

Consider the benefit-to-side effect ratio when picking a drug. GLP/GLP-1 agonists have a much better profile—the benefit-to-risk comparison for DNP isn't worth it at all; GLP/GLP-1 agonists have helped more people while simultaneously killing fewer people than DNP.

 

[Grey Spartan]

So does QSC sell DNP hence the debate?

 

[BP_6]

So does QSC sell DNP hence the debate?

Yea, they sell it in raw form which means someone has to have a good mg scale and measure it out correctly as it is not something you can eyeball for sure.

 

[DugPrime]

So does QSC sell DNP hence the debate?

 

[DECLAN]

He's also a charlatan who is getting kickbacks for talking about this and the other shit that amino place sells.

So it’s Amino, imagine if he reps for one of these Chinese vendors lol.

 

[Grey Spartan]

OH, ok.