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[exilol]

What risk are you referring to? DNP is like a gun. It's not dangerous it's dangerous if who handle the gun has no idea what he is doing.
DNP can be used very effective without problems. Poison is in dosage but you can't OD on this if you read only for 5 minutes how to administered.

But again bro science

Exactly my point! The devil is always in the dose! T3 is medicine - Certainly not seen as a "poison" Take enough of it and watch your heart fail... Clen ? The same. Insulin? Used to preserve life and wasting away - od on it and you die .... I have no doubt some people cant tolerate DNP - and for those I'd say - best not to use it .. Now if you CAN tolerate it and are educated enough ... Use it responsibly when you " Need " to

 

[BalticSea]

We all have different risk tolerances in terms of our use of various drugs discussed here. For many, yes, DNP can be used effectively. I have seen this play out countless times on bodybuilding forums. Both in terms of contest prep and otherwise. However, this tends to be very seasoned veterans to this lifestyle with years if not decades of practical experience.

The problem? Look around this forum. There are many users who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. People like that messing with DNP is a recipe for disaster. This is why there is such a cautionary tone surrounding it and drugs like it. Somebody fucks around and lands themselves in the ER from DNP and there is very little emergency docs can do for them other than supportive care and hope they don't die.

After i use DNP in low dosage (400mg ed) in the year 2018, i lose my pump feeling 4 ever. No joke!
Since them, i need Viagra or Cialis for a good pump feeling in the gym or a rest time between the sets of only 15-30 seconds.
Thanks DNP

 

[pipo]

Exactly my point! The devil is always in the dose! T3 is medicine - Certainly not seen as a "poison" Take enough of it and watch your heart fail... Clen ? The same. Insulin? Used to preserve life and wasting away - od on it and you die .... I have no doubt some people cant tolerate DNP - and for those I'd say - best not to use it .. Now if you CAN tolerate it and are educated enough ... Use it responsibly when you " Need " to

You can't kill yourself with insulin. Is a documented case of a guy trying to commit suicide and took 3 ml of insulin and ended in er. After he was released the next day he took a whole box 15 ml and in ended in hospital again and released in 2 days.

 

[iris]

Exactly my point! The devil is always in the dose! T3 is medicine - Certainly not seen as a "poison" Take enough of it and watch your heart fail... Clen ? The same. Insulin? Used to preserve life and wasting away - od on it and you die .... I have no doubt some people cant tolerate DNP - and for those I'd say - best not to use it .. Now if you CAN tolerate it and are educated enough ... Use it responsibly when you " Need " to

It's like a gun, it's all in the dose, it's just a tool, etc.
Fair enough.
If one wants to use it, it can be easily found.
The same way the potential for things to go wrong are there to be investigated and assessed, with one's own risk tolerance.
One may have a very different experience than yours, on the same dose, in any case.

What I think, since everyone here looks at the "pros", how many grams of gear they may take, etc.. is that those are people for whom numbers and outcomes in relation to their body are fundamental and approached methodically.

Sure, that's the only thing they have to do, but I am pretty sure that, nowadays, nobody that does bodybuilding for a living touches this stuff or would put themselves in a position where they have to lose fat in 2 weeks or else.
In 2024, there is a lot more knowledge and better tools to achieve that with better health outcomes, without having to resort to the unpredictability of utilising a tool you refer to as "a gun".

But for the ones that are training just because and absolutely need to lose fat in 2 weeks flat, in what for them is the "educated way", just crack on.

 

[pipo]

After i use DNP in low dosage (400mg ed) in the year 2018, i lose my pump feeling 4 ever. No joke!
Since them, i need Viagra or Cialis for a good pump feeling in the gym or a rest time between the sets of only 15-30 seconds.
Thanks DNP

400 mg is not a low dosage...

 

[Middus]

Exactly my point! The devil is always in the dose! T3 is medicine - Certainly not seen as a "poison" Take enough of it and watch your heart fail... Clen ? The same. Insulin? Used to preserve life and wasting away - od on it and you die .... I have no doubt some people cant tolerate DNP - and for those I'd say - best not to use it .. Now if you CAN tolerate it and are educated enough ... Use it responsibly when you " Need " to

The poison is in the safety margins. The narrower the safety margin the less useful it is outside of a well regulated setting

 

[BuildABro]

DAMN dude, are you for real?

After i use DNP in low dosage (400mg ed) in the year 2018, i lose my pump feeling 4 ever. No joke!
Since them, i need Viagra or Cialis for a good pump feeling in the gym or a rest time between the sets of only 15-30 seconds.
Thanks DNP

 

[BP_6]

DNP probably has one of the greatest direct correlation with dosage in terms of effectiveness and sides. The more you take, the better it works and the sides also get much worse as well.

 

[iris]

After i use DNP in low dosage (400mg ed) in the year 2018, i lose my pump feeling 4 ever. No joke!
Since them, i need Viagra or Cialis for a good pump feeling in the gym or a rest time between the sets of only 15-30 seconds.
Thanks DNP

What you took is a lot, isn't it, especially when you consider the half life.

Yet, someone gave the thumbs up to this post.
Yay

 

[DugPrime]

DNP probably has one of the greatest direct correlation with dosage in terms of effectiveness and sides. The more you take, the better it works and the sides also get much worse as well.

Consider the benefit-to-side effect ratio when picking a drug. GLP/GLP-1 agonists have a much better profile—the benefit-to-risk comparison for DNP isn't worth it at all; GLP/GLP-1 agonists have helped more people while simultaneously killing fewer people than DNP.

 

[Grey Spartan]

So does QSC sell DNP hence the debate?

 

[BP_6]

So does QSC sell DNP hence the debate?

Yea, they sell it in raw form which means someone has to have a good mg scale and measure it out correctly as it is not something you can eyeball for sure.

 

[DugPrime]

So does QSC sell DNP hence the debate?

 

[DECLAN]

He's also a charlatan who is getting kickbacks for talking about this and the other shit that amino place sells.

So it’s Amino, imagine if he reps for one of these Chinese vendors lol.

 

[Grey Spartan]

OH, ok.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I

You don't recall the hgh sale a few weeks ago?

I do. But I was traveling and missed out.

 

[BP_6]

Consider the benefit-to-side effect ratio when picking a drug. GLP/GLP-1 agonists have a much better profile—the benefit-to-risk comparison for DNP isn't worth it at all; GLP/GLP-1 agonists have helped more people while simultaneously killing fewer people than DNP.

Not going to argue with you there. When I feel I really need to hit the diet hard in the future, that will be my go to.

 

[exilol]

You can't kill yourself with insulin. Is a documented case of a guy trying to commit suicide and took 3 ml of insulin and ended in er. After he was released the next day he took a whole box 15 ml and in ended in hospital again and released in 2 days.

Good luck living through that if its rapid lol

 

[BP_6]

Good luck living through that if its rapid lol

Actually, you likely would. Most people that truly die from hypoglycemia from insulin use are type 1 diabetics. There bodies have trouble making insulin and also glucagon, which is the counter to insulin when blood sugar drops too low. That is why the person who tried to commit suicide failed, his body kept releasing glucagon into his blood stream to keep it from being fatal.

Glucagon also what is actually in the emergency kit that type 1 diabetics carry around as an injection. A lot of people think it is some type of glucose injection when in fact it is a huge dose of glucagon.

 

[exilol]

Actually, you likely would. Most people that truly die from hypoglycemia from insulin use are type 1 diabetics. There bodies have trouble making insulin and also glucagon, which is the counter to insulin when blood sugar drops too low. That is why the person who tried to commit suicide failed, his body kept releasing glucagon into his blood stream to keep it from being fatal.

Glucagon also what is actually in the emergency kit that type 1 diabetics carry around as an injection. A lot of people think it is some type of glucose injection when in fact it is a huge dose of glucagon.

I know how glucagon works but IF IM NOT MISTAKEN I had read the person in question used a longer acting insulin like Lantus ( I might be wrong) 300 units Rapid that peaks in +-15 mins will PROBABLY out pace and over run any amount of glucagon your liver can release in that time frame .. Just speculating here of course ... anyways these are needles in a haystack ... you know what I was trying to deliver with my original statement that the devil is in the dose and misuse ...