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I'm gonna wait for the GLP-1 VS STEROIDS thread and debates, it's already beginning. Gym bros on roids telling fat people to learn to eat and not use GLP-1 drugs while fat loss fanatics telling bodybuilders to stop using drugs to build muscle and cut.

Everyone on each other's throats lol.
There is plenty of guys running this on cycle, I have a buddy running it on cycle and went from being fat to having abs pretty fast.
 
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Your argument will look flawed especially if you're using a group of people who will use diuretics and dnp to lose weight/fat, then use diabetic/muscle wasting drugs to put size. GLP-1 fanatics will find so much holes in your premise then add all the deaths related to aas on top of it.

Better find a more solid angle for your argument.
I don't think he or the other guy even remembered lean mass loss occurs even on a normal calorie restricted diet. There is no drug or anything that forces the body to use 100% fatty acids in a deficit. Tirzepatide and the like just speed up the weight loss faster than a prolonged less calorie restrictive diet.

So of course you lose some muscle on GLP products, you're dieting. It's to be expected, though can be minimized some by higher protein and sufficient weight training.

I find it hilarious some guys here on AAS so against others using these products, insulting them by saying they have no self control. So what if someone chooses to use it, why feel the need to cut people down because they don't personally need it.
 
Everything is assbackwards these days man. Glp1 drugs have proven in studies to cause significant lean mass loss and I guess that’s just A OK. I mean it’s 2023, having big muscles was so 2019. That shit went out of style along with bodybuilders tracking macros.
None-sense. I have had awesome results.
 
GLP-1 medications hold the promise to dramatically alter a person's life course. At 5 feet 7 inches, I weighed 270+ pounds, consumed alcohol daily, followed a poor diet, and exercised little to none. Within 7 months, I've shed 70 pounds, almost eliminated alcohol, fixed my diet, and now I'm hitting the gym 5+ times a week. My muscle mass has noticeably increased while my body fat percentage has significantly decreased. Additionally, starting testosterone replacement therapy has played a major role in this profound shift in my health and lifestyle. I know there is a tendancy to belittle those that use these compounds as taking a shortcut. Maybe, but the outcome speaks for itself. The countless hours of training, tracking macros, tracking PRs, and learning to love the effort all would not have happened for me without that kick start that it provided.
 
GLP-1 medications hold the promise to dramatically alter a person's life course. At 5 feet 7 inches, I weighed 270+ pounds, consumed alcohol daily, followed a poor diet, and exercised little to none. Within 7 months, I've shed 70 pounds, almost eliminated alcohol, fixed my diet, and now I'm hitting the gym 5+ times a week. My muscle mass has noticeably increased while my body fat percentage has significantly decreased. Additionally, starting testosterone replacement therapy has played a major role in this profound shift in my health and lifestyle. I know there is a tendancy to belittle those that use these compounds as taking a shortcut. Maybe, but the outcome speaks for itself. The countless hours of training, tracking macros, tracking PRs, and learning to love the effort all would not have happened for me without that kick start that it provided.
Phhh new influx. I'm happy for you all but it's a change. These forums use to be a dedication to diet and training. It's now hey this shit works I've changed my life. It's awesome but an easy street compared to the dedication this life use to take. For better, for worse all good though, drugs, more drugs.
 
Phhh new influx. I'm happy for you all but it's a change. These forums use to be a dedication to diet and training. It's now hey this shit works I've changed my life. It's awesome but an easy street compared to the dedication this life use to take. For better, for worse all good though, drugs, more drugs.
Can't we all just get along? I like sex, I like drugs, I like money, it's so silly but it ain't funny.
 
Can't we all just get along? I like sex, I like drugs, I like money, it's so silly but it ain't funny.
We totally can. I'll adjust with the times but hopefully we realize also taking aas didn't mean everyone is a bodybuilder.. also applies with expectations with the new weight loss craze... lots of reports at the clinical max or above of tiza.. time will tell in all
 
GLP-1 medications hold the promise to dramatically alter a person's life course. At 5 feet 7 inches, I weighed 270+ pounds, consumed alcohol daily, followed a poor diet, and exercised little to none. Within 7 months, I've shed 70 pounds, almost eliminated alcohol, fixed my diet, and now I'm hitting the gym 5+ times a week. My muscle mass has noticeably increased while my body fat percentage has significantly decreased. Additionally, starting testosterone replacement therapy has played a major role in this profound shift in my health and lifestyle. I know there is a tendancy to belittle those that use these compounds as taking a shortcut. Maybe, but the outcome speaks for itself. The countless hours of training, tracking macros, tracking PRs, and learning to love the effort all would not have happened for me without that kick start that it provided.
Aren’t you a big boy
 
So many shit heads wanting to starve themselves instead of get big and smash weights. What's up with that? When did people stop having money for food but have money for glp1 drugs..

There are a shit-ton more fat people.

There are not that many skinny guys, let alone those who want to pack on muscle.

It's a numbers game.
 
Who cares glp vs what

We just need Tren
We totally can. I'll adjust with the times but hopefully we realize also taking aas didn't mean everyone is a bodybuilder.. also applies with expectations with the new weight loss craze... lots of reports at the clinical max or above of tiza.. time will tell in all
If it makes you feel any better, I came for the GLPs, but have stayed for all of the hot tren talk.

Am looking to start my second cycle here shortly, and really hit the gym. And I love drugs, as mentioned. My first was just to figure things out a little, and I went to 1g test p/wk. I'll start another thread for further discussion/planning if you don't mind chipping in your thoughts, and would like "all tren, all the time" @mchammertime's input too. I'm thinking primo/tren/test. Also will need help with my GLP stack, and protocol ;).
 
If it makes you feel any better, I came for the GLPs, but have stayed for all of the hot tren talk.

Am looking to start my second cycle here shortly, and really hit the gym. And I love drugs, as mentioned. My first was just to figure things out a little, and I went to 1g test p/wk. I'll start another thread for further discussion/planning if you don't mind chipping in your thoughts, and would like "all tren, all the time" @mchammertime's input too. I'm thinking primo/tren/test. Also will need help with my GLP stack, and protocol ;).

I personally wouldn’t recommend Tren for a second cycle. I used Test primo hgh/ test masteron hgh for two years before I dipped my toes into the tren pool. This calendar year I started messing around with the 19nors, Tren was difficult to manage ie had to really work to manage BP and cholesterol markers. Tren was great when cutting, but if your trying to mass I would really recommend trying test primo HgH for 20-24 weeks depending on bloodwork.

Tren will shoot your bloodwork to shit very quickly. Also if you’re a high aromatizer you will have to keep a tight lid on your e2 to prevent prolactin issues.

Right now trying nandrolone for the first time in a blast, it’s also a different level of management, I’m learning to balance the DHN effects with the dose of DHT drugs to prevent the usual sides of NPP like ED and what not. It’s just a lot more involved and than my last bulk which was straight forward and allowed me to focus on getting my diet and training leveled up while the drugs worked in the background.

I will say Tren and nandrolone are very effective at what they do, but there is some dialing that has to happen compared to some of the more plug and play type drugs like test mast primo plus hgh.
 
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