You guys remember its holiday time tons of packages going thru the system. There will be delays now. However it is a good time to order int as customs is overloaded now. Better chances of getting stuff thru during this time. However better chance of delays and things going missing too. Thats why lots of sources take a break during this time due to missing and delay packs.
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GuerillaPete
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Iron_Yuppie
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Hey that’s super, I’m glad you’ve never experienced another human being making a simple error. But out here in reality these things happen and weirdly you’re more upset about it than either of the two parties who were involved. Now ask yourself why? And once you’ve examined that thoroughly go ahead and get back to fucking yourself as per my original instructions.
narta
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It is accurate for the same individual and the same body weight as it check B-subunit of HCG that is specific to HCG. And it is used in detecting exact age of fetus and cancer in males. Also it is used during invitro fertilisation, you may check pubmed.
There're also assays about using by males with serum HCG levels data
What is wrong with Quantitative HCG test?) If you're talking about language, then English is not my native, so I apologize
That'is not accurate at all) First of all the leydig cells atrophy is not visible in most cases, so it is your imagination. And second of all if you use pharma pregnyl and looking for UGL source you obviously do not have atrophy because of Pregnyl and you testicles will not get bigger as they're already normal size(despite the fact you cannot see atrophy in most cases)
Spaceman Spiff
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What is quantitative blood testing for hcg? What test do you order?
Iron_Yuppie
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You can test for HCG in blood or urine, but it’s never done on males because the test largely exists to confirm pregnancy in females. I suppose a male could request it on a blood panel, but you might get some odd looks from the person filling out the paperwork.
Labcorp offers it. I know a female who's got it done
Quantitative hCG Pregnancy Test | Labcorp OnDemand
The beta hCG quantitative test measures the amount of hCG in your blood for early detection of pregnancy.
www.ondemand.labcorp.com
Jiobani
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This is just a normal blood test, but looking for HCG. Same as you do with testosteron and others HCG can actually be tested via bloods, not only urine.
I don't think you can just order this. This is usually done on pregnant women if the doctor thinks there is something wrong with their pregnancy in very early stages.
It can spot twins, non-uterus pregnancy etc.
It is not accurate enough to determine if the hcg is correctly dosed or not.
You can, at least in most of the united states. There are no restrictions on this
Quest also offers it, I just searched on the website
You can order it in Labcorp and Quest Diagnostics) they cost like $30-40
you're just throwing opinion instead of explanation, it's worthless.
Spaceman Spiff
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My point is, you can't really test if the stuff is underdosed or not. Might as well send it in.
Jiobani
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Ah ok. Im in the EU and I haven't seen that test available here.
But yeah like others said. It is mostly a test for females though
You're not right, it is officially used for detecting exact age of fetus in females AND Detecting prostate cancer in MALES.
So it is not only for females.
Moreover you may find many assays on pubmed where they test males for HCG during HRT or for fertility.
Pinnacle Elements
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I’m not an expert in all this but I do remember reading a while back that @janoshik specifically reports the subunit of HCG that is important and neglects the other forms that are present.It is accurate for the same individual and the same body weight as it check B-subunit of HCG that is specific to HCG. And it is used in detecting exact age of fetus and cancer in males. Also it is used during invitro fertilisation, you may check pubmed.
There're also assays about using by males with serum HCG levels data
What is wrong with Quantitative HCG test?) If you're talking about language, then English is not my native, so I apologize
That'is not accurate at all) First of all the leydig cells atrophy is not visible in most cases, so it is your imagination. And second of all if you use pharma pregnyl and looking for UGL source you obviously do not have atrophy because of Pregnyl and you testicles will not get bigger as they're already normal size(despite the fact you cannot see atrophy in most cases)
I think Tracy had mentioned it when discussing joining QSC where they were advertising their HCG as 5000iu because that was the “total” where in reality that subunit is the one we care about. So Tracy stopped advertising their HCG as 5000iu and correctly adhered to Jano’s report of the 2500iu proper subunit.
I could be wrong but, this is what I recall. One of them can probably shed more light.
The serum levels of HCG for the same individual with the same body weight fluctuate, but around 10%.
Nobody is saying that if it shows 20% less then Pregnyl - then it's underdosed, but if it's less 5 times - obviously something is wrong.
And this test is widely used in Eastern Europe. And results are consistent.
For example my experience:
12h after 1500IU of pharma Pregnyl always show 45-55 mIU/ml. So we may consider it as a reference.
Before Pregnyl I tested 1 month ago:
AminoAsylum - 9mIU/ml. Obviously underdosed.
ZyHCG - 6 and 7 mIU/ml, underdosed
Ultima hcg - < 5
swiss chems - < 5.
2 years ago Indian ovidac showed 31-35 mIU/ml that is considered also good, but I had different body weight.
I won't list others as it's a long list, but anyway you can see that results 5-10 times less then Pregnyl.
And it's not just fluctuation, that's poor quality.
And regarding bioactivity Jano mentioned in HCG thread that one of the reliable methods is checking testosterone response of Leydig cells after HCG administration, So you may add Total Testosterone(that is also quantitative test) to the HCG Quantitative to make it even more accurate.
Nobody is saying that if it shows 20% less then Pregnyl - then it's underdosed, but if it's less 5 times - obviously something is wrong.
And this test is widely used in Eastern Europe. And results are consistent.
For example my experience:
12h after 1500IU of pharma Pregnyl always show 45-55 mIU/ml. So we may consider it as a reference.
Before Pregnyl I tested 1 month ago:
AminoAsylum - 9mIU/ml. Obviously underdosed.
ZyHCG - 6 and 7 mIU/ml, underdosed
Ultima hcg - < 5
swiss chems - < 5.
2 years ago Indian ovidac showed 31-35 mIU/ml that is considered also good, but I had different body weight.
I won't list others as it's a long list, but anyway you can see that results 5-10 times less then Pregnyl.
And it's not just fluctuation, that's poor quality.
And regarding bioactivity Jano mentioned in HCG thread that one of the reliable methods is checking testosterone response of Leydig cells after HCG administration, So you may add Total Testosterone(that is also quantitative test) to the HCG Quantitative to make it even more accurate.
Spaceman Spiff
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Most of the hcg is underdosed. But a blood test to determine if it is or not is a little ridiculous. Looking at this guy's post history he is trying to get hcg testing credit from using his blood work.
Just some obsessive nonsense. It's not like testosterone where we assuming a 5x multiplier is normal
Spaceman Spiff
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Then keep buying pregnyl
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