Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[ShamelessQuestions86]

The insanity of doing business like this one on WhatsApp is beyond any rational person comprehension. And whoever is actually ordering using WhatsApp is either an obtuse idiot, naive, or suicidal.
Quite frankly, this is enough reason not to even think of ordering here no matter what the bargain is.

I have a burner but I don't want to use it for this kind of stuff. I admittedly have not done OpSec research regarding WhatsApp or Telegram, I have never seen anyone else use it, but some fucking Dealers use cashapp, so who knows man lmao. One day I'll just buy a laptop with cash.

 

[nightprowler7]

I have a burner but I don't want to use it for this kind of stuff. I admittedly have not done OpSec research regarding WhatsApp or Telegram, I have never seen anyone else use it, but some fucking Dealers use cashapp, so who knows man lmao. One day I'll just buy a laptop with cash.

I don't imagine having a burner will help if you're typing your real name and address in the messages

 

[sfbizercer]

The insanity of doing business like this one on WhatsApp is beyond any rational person comprehension. And whoever is actually ordering using WhatsApp is either an obtuse idiot, naive, or suicidal.
Quite frankly, this is enough reason not to even think of ordering here no matter what the bargain is.

God you guys are fucking annoying. Truly nobody gives a fuck about you or anyone else ordering a couple kits of gear, you aren't el chapo buddy. If you're so deep in an investigation that the difference between Whatsapp and Protonmail is that important to you, you're already fucked. Take your cheap ass gear and be happy about it or order elsewhere. I've ordered so many drugs (PEDs and otherwise) off telegram and whatsapp and had no issues ever, buy from trusted sources, and understand the risk.

 

[HB_22]

The insanity of doing business like this one on WhatsApp is beyond any rational person comprehension. And whoever is actually ordering using WhatsApp is either an obtuse idiot, naive, or suicidal.
Quite frankly, this is enough reason not to even think of ordering here no matter what the bargain is.

I dont get it either. Law enforcement will have an easy time reading all that.

 

[gx52a]

I dont get it either. Law enforcement will have an easy time reading all that.

It's not this. I'm not worried about the messages, which are encrypted anyway.

For the below, I'm speaking specifically about US law, but it will probably be similar in any nation with a common law system.

There is a different "privacy standard" for the content of a message, versus the metadata of a message (information about the message itself).

Basically the cops need no justification to get your metadata, whereas the actual contents of your communications are highly privileged.

And boy are you fucked if the cops intercept a package full of illegal drugs addressed to you two weeks after the metadata indicates your cell phone messaged the WhatsApp number of a known vendor.

If you think you're too small fry to go to jail, that's okay. Live your best life. I guess I'm just one of those losers that wears a seatbelt and doesn't commit crimes via WhatsApp.

I should add that I'm not really blaming Tracy here, QSC probably (I hope) just got a nice new CRM package for WhatsApp and it's making his life so much easier he doesn't even want to use email anymore.

So, Tracy, I'm sorry if I'm fucking up a good thing for you here. But uh guys QSC transacts in illegal drugs, not party balloons. If you want me to use a messenger app, I'm willing to use Signal, that doesn't record any metadata. Meta is just about the least privacy-respecting company on the fucking planet. Using their product for drug deals is lunacy.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I don't imagine having a burner will help if you're typing your real name and address in the messages

There are people ordering/selling gear on Facebook an y'all are worried about this

 

[gx52a]

There are people ordering/selling gear on Facebook an y'all are worried about this

Yeah and there's 350,000 people in jail for drugs in the USA

at least make it hard for the cops wtf

 

[KLG]

well great I would love to order some if someone could answer my email

I sent in an order by email 3 days ago...no response. By the time they get around to responding to email orders, the domestic supply will be gone.

And I STILL have not received my internationally shipped November order. I let Tracy know but he ghosted me. Anybody ever do a chargeback? I think I'm at that point. 3 months is too long to wait.

This source is not worth the savings.

 

[KLG]

I'm legitimately alarmed that WhatsApp is abruptly being pushed so hard.

I'm going to stop short of making accusations but it's weird.

You are spot on...it's definitely alarming.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yeah and there's 350,000 people in jail for drugs in the USA

at least make it hard for the cops wtf

I'm not saying to not be careful, but let's be real.

How many of those are AAS?

 

[Blues]

God you guys are fucking annoying. Truly nobody gives a fuck about you or anyone else ordering a couple kits of gear, you aren't el chapo buddy. If you're so deep in an investigation that the difference between Whatsapp and Protonmail is that important to you, you're already fucked. Take your cheap ass gear and be happy about it or order elsewhere. I've ordered so many drugs (PEDs and otherwise) off telegram and whatsapp and had no issues ever, buy from trusted sources, and understand the risk.

My friend, you can order and do and say whatever the fuck your heart pleases 100000 times, but it takes one time, only one time with some bored guy doing a night shift to fuck up your life for good over few vials of Test to impress your next door girl or those few people on your Instagram.
Never feel too safe for your own good. That's all I'm saying. Stay safe and be smart everyone.

 

[gx52a]

I'm not saying to not be careful, but let's be real.

How many of those are AAS?

I think we all know the cops are on gear too, but let's not pretend like prosecutions don't happen.

And if you're not saying not to be careful, what are you saying? Nobody needs to be using WhatsApp, but Tracy has basically given us no option. I've been waiting 8 days, others have been waiting longer.

Again if your personal risk tolerance is that you're cool doing drug deals via WhatsApp upside down on a motorcycle in the rain, that's cool, but I'd appreciate having the option to use email instead

 

[Var1]

Can’t we have a separate section and call it ( paranoid yanks ) most of this source thread is yanks arguing amongst themselves over ordering, payment methods and thinking there some big hot shot smuggling $3m dollars worth of cocaine. Either just order via qsc rules or go natty! Ffs

 

[runway]

I think the whatsapp preference has something to do with weight loss drugs being the most profitable for them, don't think they give a lot of fucks about meso anymore.

WhatsApp = way more profit

 

[gx52a]

Can’t we have a separate section and call it ( paranoid yanks ) most of this source thread is yanks arguing amongst themselves over ordering, payment methods and thinking there some big hot shot smuggling $3m dollars worth of cocaine. Either just order via qsc rules or go natty! Ffs

Great, and the other section can be called ( source cucks )

 

[nightprowler7]

I think we all know the cops are on gear too, but let's not pretend like prosecutions don't happen.

And if you're not saying not to be careful, what are you saying? Nobody needs to be using WhatsApp, but Tracy has basically given us no option. I've been waiting 8 days, others have been waiting longer.

Again if your personal risk tolerance is that you're cool doing drug deals via WhatsApp upside down on a motorcycle in the rain, that's cool, but I'd appreciate having the option to use email instead

You do have an option. Wait for email reply, or shop elsewhere.

The complaining is annoying. Don't like walmart? Shop at target.

 

[Var1]

Great, and the other section can be called ( source cucks )

I will just stay in this one thanks and order whatever I like, to my home address using my real name but yeah I can see some members using the cucks one

 

[gx52a]

You do have an option. Wait for email reply, or shop elsewhere.

The complaining is annoying. Don't like walmart? Shop at target.

Right, yeah, how dare we hold sources to higher standards on Meso. So annoying.

For what it's worth Tracy already has my money for part of an order I'm trying to complete and I think I've been pretty patient. What's annoying is when he keeps popping in here to say he's active on WhatsApp and basically to go fuck myself.

Maybe Tracy will punish me for saying this stuff publicly, I don't know, but I feel pretty strongly that I have a duty to all y'all to call shots like I see them, and I'm really uncomfortable with what's happening here.

Flip side, if they do right by me, I'll be sure to let people know. I'm not a whiner by nature. Everybody can win here.

 

[nightprowler7]

Right, yeah, how dare we hold sources to higher standards on Meso. So annoying.

For what it's worth Tracy already has my money for part of an order I'm trying to complete and I think I've been pretty patient. What's annoying is when he keeps popping in here to say he's active on WhatsApp and basically to go fuck myself.

Maybe Tracy will punish me for saying this stuff publicly, I don't know, but I feel pretty strongly that I have a duty to all y'all to call shots like I see them, and I'm really uncomfortable with what's happening here.

Flip side, if they do right by me, I'll be sure to let people know. I'm not a whiner by nature. Everybody can win here.

Your analogy makes no sense. You're not concerned about the product, you are concerned about your PREFERENCE of communication. You don't decide what method of communication a source uses, They do. If you don't like that, Then I guess tough luck? This guy makes millions, I doubt he's going to miss you orders.

 

[gx52a]

Your analogy makes no sense. You're not concerned about the product, you are concerned about your PREFERENCE of communication. You don't decide what method of communication a source uses, They do. If you don't like that, Then I guess tough luck? This guy makes millions, I doubt he's going to miss you orders.

I actually agree with you, if a source says "WhatsApp only" then I can make a decision ahead of time not to use them, just like I'd make the decision not to use a source that only accepts bank transfers. And while I wouldn't suggest that anyone should, just for basic common sense opsec reasons, I respect their right to do it anyway.

The problem is when the source has been saying email is ok and putting it in their price list, and then just defacto moves over to WhatsApp only without any notice. Not even notice after the fact, rather just leaves everybody hanging for like what, 10 days now?

Meanwhile he's already got some of my money for a transaction we haven't actually completed via email.

You're right, their stuff is good, I've said so before and that's why I'm ordering it, and it's why I hope they decide they still want business from email-only users like me in the future.

But if you were in my situation you'd probably be frustrated too.