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[UncleBuns]

Isn't hcg degradation an urban legend? I think it should be good for 2 months even at room temp.

@Zebedee

HCG degradation testing after 30, 45, 60 days

This is a work in progress of testing reconstituted HCG for degradation after 30, 45 and 60 days stored between 2-8 degrees celsius as advised. Posting this with slight delay as I needed to check that it matched the contents of pharmaceutical HCG to exclude this as a variable. Was able to...

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So, my memory was a bit off. In this test reconstituted HCG stored in refrigerator temps was degraded ~18%. At 45 days it was more than 50% degraded.

 

[UncleBuns]

It's going to be around $15/vial. Does it really matter if you have to toss it after a month?

Yes and no. A 2500iu vial is 7 or 8 bucks and lasts a month. I don't see the point in buying vials for double the price that will only last a month. It's not like I don't have the cash but why waste the money when it's unnecessary?

I don't really care if he only sticks to the 10K vials as I have other sources as well. More of a suggestion as I would rather keep buying from QSC and I'm assuming others are a fan of the lower dose vials as well. Maybe I'm totally wrong. I guess we'll see.

 

[JeffroCat]

Unless you’ve used the same techniques & kit choices as I have & also done that for 20 years, I don’t see how you can be so certain that I haven’t any symptoms of scar tissue.

I'm not arguing wether or not you have symptoms of scar tissue. I'm simply saying that if you've inserted steal into your soft tissue for as long as you say you have, then you have scar tissue.

 

[Zebedee]

For some reason I thought reconstituted HCG was destroyed if frozen. Maybe I'm mixing that info up with a different peptide. Thanks for the info. I'll look into this. If it can be frozen then the 10K IU vials are clutch.

I’ve seen people some claim that, but there’s a lot of anecdotal evidence to the contrary, not just mine or @Eddie posts above.

Fingers crossed you come across more definitive evidence whilst you’re looking into it mate

As for the consequences of freezing other peptides - I honestly have no idea about that.

 

[bubba618]

NYE order showed up today but all the Test-C was crashed out of solution. Went back after some warm water but holding my breath that it holds.

Mine was crashed as well, but the candle warmer took care of that easily.

 

[Crashrandom]

Little bit of heat and we’re back. There were some floaters but all disappeared after about 12-15 mins of low heat.

 

[DECLAN]

Little bit of heat and we’re back. There were some floaters but all disappeared after about 12-15 mins of low heat.

If it disappeared after heating, those might not be foreign materials but the compound crashing. I had some crystals form when it was exposed to colder temperature, fixed it with heat too.

 

[drewDown432031]

Does anyone here contact QSC through whatsapp? I sent an email for an order but it's lagging and I was able to reach them through whatsapp and the order was processed. Debit/credit pay option is unavailable atm and I was given the option to send crypto to a wallet address. I'm hesitant because I honestly don't know if I'm talking to qsc for sure. Anyone ever run an order this way?

 

[kain]

hey guys, this thread is enormous. can someone please link me to the price list and ordering info?
thanks!

Maybe try just a little bit.

Search results for query: price list | MESO-Rx Forum (thinksteroids.com)

 

[gx52a]

@Zebedee

HCG degradation testing after 30, 45, 60 days

This is a work in progress of testing reconstituted HCG for degradation after 30, 45 and 60 days stored between 2-8 degrees celsius as advised. Posting this with slight delay as I needed to check that it matched the contents of pharmaceutical HCG to exclude this as a variable. Was able to...

thinksteroids.com

So, my memory was a bit off. In this test reconstituted HCG stored in refrigerator temps was degraded ~18%. At 45 days it was more than 50% degraded.

This is bizarre. Why does Pregnyl say it's good for 60 days in the refrigerator?

Pharma tends to be super conservative so that probably means much less than 10% loss of potency

 

[BigRed91]

Little bit of heat and we’re back. There were some floaters but all disappeared after about 12-15 mins of low heat.

Floaters do not dissappear. You need to put a flashlight under each vial and look for tiny fibers or specks of things not supposed to be there. Maybe u were lucky but I doubt it.

 

[Peeledbanana]

Why not just reconstitute 1 vial at a time... that's what I do. I do 6iu a day I have 12iu vials. I put 8 units water in and do half o e morning the other half the next. Keep vial in fridge overnight. Just curious why you would want to reconstitute 3 kits at a time?

How many times can you use a vial of Bac water for reconstructing 1 vial at a time? Or do you throw away the bac after reconstructing each vial? I’m using hospira brand which is $25 per 30ml and don’t want to have to buy a new vial for each 10iu vial. I figured I would use 3 10iu vials in 30 days which is the recommended amount of time for the bac to stay sterile

 

[UncleBuns]

This is bizarre. Why does Pregnyl say it's good for 60 days in the refrigerator?

Pharma tends to be super conservative so that probably means much less than 10% loss of potency

Maybe they use some kind of preservative? I think the test was done on Chinese UGL HCG.

 

[gx52a]

Maybe they use some kind of preservative? I think the test was done on Chinese UGL HCG.

That's an interesting theory. Now I'm curious if any of the Indian pharma HCG might have similar preservatives, meaning it keeps better than the UGL generics.

I'll see if there's any literature about whether there's anything in Pregnyl besides the HCG

Edit: looks like just sodium phosphate.
PREGNYL® (chorionic gonadotropin) for injection is a sterile, dried powder for intramuscular injection after reconstitution.

Each multiple-dose vial is only for use in one patient and contains 10,000 USP units of chorionic gonadotropin with dibasic sodium phosphate (4.4 mg) and monobasic sodium phosphate (5 mg). If required, pH is adjusted with sodium hydroxide and/or phosphoric acid.

Each package also contains a 10-mL vial of solvent containing: water for injection with 0.56% sodium chloride and 0.9% BENZYL ALCOHOL (preservative), WHICH IS NOT FOR USE IN NEWBORNS. If required, pH is adjusted with sodium hydroxide and/or hydrochloric acid

 

[Dirthand]

How many times can you use a vial of Bac water for reconstructing 1 vial at a time? Or do you throw away the bac after reconstructing each vial? I’m using hospira brand which is $25 per 30ml and don’t want to have to buy a new vial for each 10iu vial. I figured I would use 3 10iu vials in 30 days which is the recommended amount of time for the bac to stay sterile

You do not have to use all the bac water at once. It will last at least 30 days after Initial use.(in my opinion longer if you are drawing it out with a syringe cause you are not exposing it to air) Also you can purchase bac water on Amazon very cheap as well. I get 2 - 30ml packs for like 15$. I would not want my peptides reconstituted for longer than a day or too. Although they are probly fine as long as they are refrigerated it's just my preference.

 

[Crashrandom]

Floaters do not dissappear. You need to put a flashlight under each vial and look for tiny fibers or specks of things not supposed to be there. Maybe u were lucky but I doubt it.

Inspected it pretty throughly under a light, 2 out of the 40 have floaters. Those two also fell back out of solution in 20-30 minutes. Seems most of them are okay but not holding my breath they don’t crash again.

 

[jdubzzz44]

Inspected it pretty throughly under a light, 2 out of the 40 have floaters. Those two also fell back out of solution in 20-30 minutes. Seems most of them are okay but not holding my breath they don’t crash again.

Why would they crash again do you live in an igloo

 

[JeffroCat]

How many times can you use a vial of Bac water for reconstructing 1 vial at a time? Or do you throw away the bac after reconstructing each vial? I’m using hospira brand which is $25 per 30ml and don’t want to have to buy a new vial for each 10iu vial. I figured I would use 3 10iu vials in 30 days which is the recommended amount of time for the bac to stay sterile

For what it's worth, I've used rhe same hospira 30ml for longer than 8 weeks with no issue.

 

[AlexDavis43]

As for Vigorous Steve announcing refrigerated hcg is only good for 3 weeks, I’m wondering if he’s using Liska’s research to come to that conclusion.

Pretty sure Vigorous Steve is a lurker here, given some of the comments he makes - his videos often contain stuff that was talked about here recently.

Maybe he'll show himself like Chase Irons did.

 

[Dirthand]

How many times can you use a vial of Bac water for reconstructing 1 vial at a time? Or do you throw away the bac after reconstructing each vial? I’m using hospira brand which is $25 per 30ml and don’t want to have to buy a new vial for each 10iu vial. I figured I would use 3 10iu vials in 30 days which is the recommended amount of time for the bac to stay sterile

Tbh I was a an iv drug user on and off for 20 years of my life ( clean from narcotics, alcohol, and tobacco for over 5 years now) however I have Injected pond water, creek water and hell I even put 40 units of beer once on half a gram of meth and I yes it stung like a mf for a minute. So don't take my word for it. When I here you saying your worried about bac water might go bad I'm like wtf. Opps did i just say all that...Please don't judge me.