Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

If there's any tests I question it's vendors tests. If yours were perfect I wouldn't have thrown out over 30 kits of multiple peptides that either tested as being contaminated with sema or something completely different than I ordered. The tests you had posted on your price list at the time definitely didn't show that. But I do appreciate that you are honest and up front about bad tests now. That is a massive improvement over the way things were done in October and November.

Fair enough.

Customer is free to question vendors tests.
Vendor is free to question customers tests.

Take all results with a grain of salt. Do multiple tests to remove doubt.
Everyone makes their final opinion at the end. We are not perfect, and neither are our customers.

 

[hghlover]

If there's any tests I question it's vendors tests. If yours were perfect I wouldn't have thrown out over 30 kits of multiple peptides that either tested as being contaminated with sema or something completely different than I ordered. The tests you had posted on your price list at the time definitely didn't show that. But I do appreciate that you are honest and up front about bad tests now. That is a massive improvement over the way things were done in October and November.

Now you are making me kinda worried lol. I Just put in an order for their tb 500

 

[Ex0shear]

What do you mean by ignored? what am I supposed to do?

I don't know, I guess you would feel pretty or some shit, maybe even honored.

 

[Vinyard]

Now you are making me kinda worried lol. I Just put in an order for their tb 500

I would be too. They have great GH and oils if you don't mind refiltering sometimes. But I'd hold off on peptides until their cutoff for acceptable purity isn't 85% and they start putting batch numbers on them like it was mentioned months ago.

 

[hghlover]

I would be too. They have great GH and oils if you don't mind refiltering sometimes. But I'd hold off on peptides until their cutoff for acceptable purity isn't 85% and they start putting batch numbers on them like it was mentioned months ago.

They had toxic contamination or some shit in their bpc 157 or tb 500?

 

[Vinyard]

They had toxic contamination or some shit in their bpc 157 or tb 500?

Semaglutide. Enough to be a weekly low dose of sema. This was towards the end of last year though. But tb500 didn't look too hot recently either.

 

[hghlover]

Semaglutide. Enough to be a weekly low dose of sema. This was towards the end of last year though. But tb500 didn't look too hot recently either.

Thanks. There's a recent test of their tb 500 somewhere?

 

[SpaceForce]

Thanks. There's a recent test of their tb 500 somewhere?

I would look here or follow the link on the pricelist if it's blue. The date should be on the test.
Qingdao Sigma HPLC testing

 

[andyminion500]

I would look here or follow the link on the pricelist if it's blue. The date should be on the test.
Qingdao Sigma HPLC testing

Janoshik Analytical

Never met such a bunch of incompetent individuals using PEDs…..

Test the gear yourself when in doubt

It’s like busting your like crack dealer for a test before buying

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

Thanks for sharing.
I guess I was right when I said that those donnors in that discord group cannot be trusted.
I know that many of them are good customers and trustworthy, but unfortunately I have so much haters there who try to sully QSC reputation by all possible means, especially in reddit comments, and it often surprise me that I find sometimes they are testing some kits with some color of tops that were never produced by QSC.
That vial definitely didn't belong to us, 93% purity, large difference on quantity, that was a clear dishonest sample donation.

You must realize that those donors “who cannot be trusted” are the same donors who made a decision to do further testing. It is not a perfect process, but there are safety mechanisms to ensure any significant discrepancies, or errors, are researched to ensure a consistent, and hopefully accurate result.

If this group, which I am a part of (although not this specific test), were intent on causing damage to your reputation, there would not have been any attempt to do additional testing.

Do not discredit the work of the group, because of one mistake (or one potentially purposeful bad intention).

As I have always said, there are thing I really like about you and you operation, and there are things I don’t like. I don’t completely discredit you when you say or do things that I believe to be contrary to good customer service, but I keep an open mind because of all the good things you are trying to do.

Everything here is imperfect, as everyone here is also imperfect, but I generally believe the consensus is that we all, as a whole, feel we are all working to make these “illegal” activities as safe as realistically possible.

 

[RaddishPork]

You must realize that those donors “who cannot be trusted” are the same donors who made a decision to do further testing. It is not a perfect process, but there are safety mechanisms to ensure any significant discrepancies, or errors, are researched to ensure a consistent, and hopefully accurate result.

If this group, which I am a part of (although not this specific test), were intent on causing damage to your reputation, there would not have been any attempt to do additional testing.

Do not discredit the work of the group, because of one mistake (or one potentially purposeful bad intention).

Can you verify what went wrong with that wave of testing? I’d love to see more work from the group, but from my POV the only thing I’ve heard of it was someone sending in the wrong vial (possibly intentional) and then we never got an explanation to what actually happened. It just looked weird that the “off” test happened to be the exact dosage of another vial that QSC sells.

I think a lot of us were waiting on follow-ups for this incident but it died down. Would love clarity on it

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

Can you verify what went wrong with that wave of testing? I’d love to see more work from the group, but from my POV the only thing I’ve heard of it was someone sending in the wrong vial (possibly intentional) and then we never got an explanation to what actually happened. It just looked weird that the “off” test happened to be the exact dosage of another vial that QSC sells.

I think a lot of us were waiting on follow-ups for this incident but it died down. Would love clarity on it

As I was not part of this specific test, I do believe the only thing that exists is that additional testing was completed, and shared here, to try and clear up any confusion.

Regardless of the root cause, steps were taken to ensure integrity with the testing process.

 

[MadaFacor]

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Good stuff!!

 

[RaddishPork]

As I was not part of this specific test, I do believe the only thing that exists is that additional testing was completed, and shared here, to try and clear up any confusion.

Regardless of the root cause, steps were taken to ensure integrity with the testing process.

No offense but that is such a non-answer it doesn’t give the group any credibility at all. Just makes it sound even more sketchy. You’re affiliated with these guys but have no idea how they did something wrong and if it was intentional?

And we’re supposed to rely on “we have integrity trust me” as your defense for it? This is why nobody is taking it seriously. I’d genuinely like to know the truth before I place a big GH order next month. But as of right now there is no case against it.

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

No offense but that is such a non-answer it doesn’t give the group any credibility at all. Just makes it sound even more sketchy. You’re affiliated with these guys but have no idea how they did something wrong and if it was intentional?

And we’re supposed to rely on “we have integrity trust me” as your defense for it? This is why nobody is taking it seriously. I’d genuinely like to know the truth before I place a big GH order next month. But as of right now there is no case against it.

As I stated, I was not part of that testing. If you cannot accept that answer, then come to whatever conclusion you want! I really don’t care!

Place your order and send off for testing. You do not have to rely on the actions of others. Do whatever makes you happy!

 

[PoizenNoVA]

No offense but that is such a non-answer it doesn’t give the group any credibility at all. Just makes it sound even more sketchy. You’re affiliated with these guys but have no idea how they did something wrong and if it was intentional?

And we’re supposed to rely on “we have integrity trust me” as your defense for it? This is why nobody is taking it seriously. I’d genuinely like to know the truth before I place a big GH order next month. But as of right now there is no case against it.

I’m also part of the group and part of the 24iu GH test. Two vials were sent in, one from me and one from another user. My vial tested fine, but the other member’s vial tested extremely low. The other member did not intentionally send in an alternate vial. They sent in what they received. We are sending in a bunch of vials for a re-test and that is currently in process. QSC’s hGH is usually solid. I have a bunch of 10 IU blue caps and 24 IU grey caps. Their issues in the past are with peptide contamination/purity, and sometimes sending out the wrong peptide vials.

 

[RaddishPork]

As I stated, I was not part of that testing. If you cannot accept that answer, then come to whatever conclusion you want! I really don’t care!

Place your order and send off for testing. You do not have to rely on the actions of others. Do whatever makes you happy!

So you can vouch for everyone’s integrity of testing but you can’t vouch for the testing protocol or what happened? You don’t see how that makes no sense?

I’ll be placing my order regardless. I was just giving your group a chance to not look like they’re full of crap. Best of luck to y’all bud

 

[PoizenNoVA]

So you can vouch for everyone’s integrity of testing but you can’t vouch for the testing protocol or what happened? You don’t see how that makes no sense?

I’ll be placing my order regardless. I was just giving your group a chance to not look like they’re full of crap. Best of luck to y’all bud

We don’t run the tests, Janoshik does. We send in our vials for testing. You should place your order. All of us in that test group ordered from QSC as well.

 

[RaddishPork]

Do you speak English? Are you able to read and comprehend English? If not, I can attempt to communicate in your native tongue so you can grasp the concept of what I actually said! I don’t think I can better explain my point of view, but it is obvious you lack the ability to have a basic comprehension of what I did and did not say, and did or did not attempt to answer.

I believe PoizenNoVa likely gave more valuable information than I did.

Regardless, I really don’t care about you not being satisfied.

Things are not being done with the intention of satisfying your vast insecurities.

You weren’t a part of the testing group so sit this one out. I know that you want to feel involved and important in the great QSC bust, but you said it yourself, you weren’t a part of it and can’t say shit for it. You just know that your super cool discord friends are outstanding citizens and would never make mistakes because they have INTEGRITY! You also misspoke by saying the updates and new testing was finished. So again, maybe sit this one out if you don’t know what you’re talking about. You’ll get your shiny detective badge one day.

Anyways thanks @PoizenNoVA for clarifying. Would be great if y’all posted the updates when the next batches are tested. Like I said previously, I think most of us are wanting to keep up with this incident but the only people speaking on it are the ones who didn’t even send in their own vials like this knucklehead above. I doubt that anyone thinks it was intentional or user error but in all fairness you can’t rule out any possibilities until the rest of that batch is sent in. Best of luck to the group and hopefully y’all can do something helpful for the community with it.

 

[HereToTeachAndLearn]

You weren’t a part of the testing group so sit this one out. I know that you want to feel involved and important in the great QSC bust, but you said it yourself, you weren’t a part of it and can’t say shit for it. You just know that your super cool discord friends are outstanding citizens and would never make mistakes because they have INTEGRITY! You also misspoke by saying the updates and new testing was finished. So again, maybe sit this one out if you don’t know what you’re talking about. You’ll get your shiny detective badge one day.

Anyways thanks @PoizenNoVA for clarifying. Would be great if y’all posted the updates when the next batches are tested. Like I said previously, I think most of us are wanting to keep up with this incident but the only people speaking on it are the ones who didn’t even send in their own vials like this knucklehead above. I doubt that anyone thinks it was intentional or user error but in all fairness you can’t rule out any possibilities until the rest of that batch is sent in. Best of luck to the group and hopefully y’all can do something helpful for the community with it.

Dumbass! What you don’t get is that none of this is a knock on QSC you fucking illiterate asshole! Read and comprehend!