Nicolaus

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I take aromisin, I like it a lot, if I start getting a lump under my nipples I up my dosage and it goes away almost next day

So if you stop taking pct, is it a sure thing that your test will go back to its previous levels?

Also, lumps from what? Taking test?

Thank you
 

Dw725

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So if you stop taking pct, is it a sure thing that your test will go back to its previous levels?

Also, lumps from what? Taking test?

Thank you
Sounds like u got a lot of research to do before u jump into this. Just don't be one of the pin first ask later guys Dr Jim is always tearing apart.
 
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Forgot to add.

Why do not people just take the irreversible AI instead of reversible AI such as arimidex? Are there worse side effects on the aromasin?

I read that aromasin is steroidal and arimidex is non-steroidal. Not sure the significance of this statement.


Aromasin is generally more expensive and less available. That's probably the biggest reason other AIs get more recognition and use.
 
Okay wow, interesting. Ok so, Clomid stimulates FSH and LH levels because this drug is a competitive inhibitor of estradiol and blocks estrogen from binding to the hypothalamus. Since I have low test, fsh, and LH, I can only conclude that I may have secondary hypogonadism. That's what I need, an increase in FSH and LH which will ultimately increase testosterone levels. And like you said, stacking clomid with Exemestane will only help due to a possible sustained or decreased SGBH levels, which will help with more bioavailabile testosterone. And you are not taking nolvadex because clomid is good enough, correct?
Would you happen to know if clomid and nolvadex are very similar in action/chemical structure, thereby rendering the usage of both unncessary?

Also, would you happen to know the proper dosage and duration of clomid/AIs and if discontinued, I would go back to my normal test levels? I have read in some articles that the benefits are permanent, due to a "jumpstart" kind of effect from clomid on the hypothalamus-pituitary axis.


Thank you so much for the help



I don't think stacking Clomid and nolvadex is necessary but I've never seen any research studies where this was done. So who knows. Sone guys run a pct using both Clomid and nolvadex, but there's no actual clinical studies I've ever seen to support using both as superior to either one alone.

No one can say if your natty t levels would remain elevated after stopping SERM use or not. I've read it can but only anecdotal reports, but nobody knows for sure and each individual may be different. The only way to know for sure is blood work.

Dosage of 25mg/eod of Clomid is shown in studies to raise t levels impressively. I'm not sure if more Clomid would equal more testosterone. I'd want to dose as little as possible because of the potential vision side effects.

For AI I'd start exemestane at 6mg/Ed or maybe even eod and let blood work guide you from that point. You don't want to decimate your estrogen levels, you just want to keep them middle of the range really. They will rise when your testosterone rises from the Clomid. Low estrogen has negative effects on libido as well as your bone health, so you do want some, just not an excessive amount.
 

Nicolaus

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I don't think stacking Clomid and nolvadex is necessary but I've never seen any research studies where this was done. So who knows. Sone guys run a pct using both Clomid and nolvadex, but there's no actual clinical studies I've ever seen to support using both as superior to either one alone.

No one can say if your natty t levels would remain elevated after stopping SERM use or not. I've read it can but only anecdotal reports, but nobody knows for sure and each individual may be different. The only way to know for sure is blood work.

Dosage of 25mg/eod of Clomid is shown in studies to raise t levels impressively. I'm not sure if more Clomid would equal more testosterone. I'd want to dose as little as possible because of the potential vision side effects.

For AI I'd start exemestane at 6mg/Ed or maybe even eod and let blood work guide you from that point. You don't want to decimate your estrogen levels, you just want to keep them middle of the range really. They will rise when your testosterone rises from the Clomid. Low estrogen has negative effects on libido as well as your bone health, so you do want some, just not an excessive amount.

Have you been supplementing with anabolic steroids or just SERMs/AI.

And have you ever used the SERMs/AI long term to have an anecdote for yourself?

Could you please update me on how the clomid and aromasin works out for you. I figure the lack of actual clinical studies is due to the fact that treating men with SERMs and AIs is so unconventional and unpopular.

I'm going to purchase from the pharmacist soon. Have you received your products yet?

Thank you for the structured and great responses.
 
Have you been supplementing with anabolic steroids or just SERMs/AI.

And have you ever used the SERMs/AI long term to have an anecdote for yourself?

Could you please update me on how the clomid and aromasin works out for you. I figure the lack of actual clinical studies is due to the fact that treating men with SERMs and AIs is so unconventional and unpopular.

I'm going to purchase from the pharmacist soon. Have you received your products yet?

Thank you for the structured and great responses.


I have used AAS before if that's what your asking. But my latest foray into using Clomid not as PCT but just as a t booster is more for my curiosity than anything else. As for long term no I just recently started this experiment, I think I'm into week 3ish now. By the 5th day in I noticed I was sprouting more body hair, I'm already pretty hairy but now I'm even more hairy. My libido nose dived at first but the past few days I've been rather arousable.

There actually is a fair bit of studies on SERMs to raise testosterone, just google around they aren't hard to find. In recent years it has become more commonly prescribed ny endocrinologists who are in the know, with good results and minimal side effects at the 25mg/eod dosing protocol. Also very inexpensive at that dose.

Yes I got my order from pharmacist, everything was good, definitely give him my blessing.
 

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