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[randomguy87]

Why don't u look up my post history then. First cycle of sarms last September did 2months of S4(andarine) while cutting; I was in a heavy deficit too so probably gained maybe 1lb of lean muscle while dropping 10lbs; got stronger on a deficit something that never happened to me unless I took creatine mono. Second cycle Dec.-end of January ran tbol at 40mg or so for first four weeks then added var(or supposed var) at 50mg for last 4 weeks. Ate slightly at maintenance and above; I gained about 7-8lbs or so; after PCT I gained another 3lbs cause I was eating like a fatfuck after but maintained most of my strength. Now last of all this is my first "test cycle" or say injectable cycle and I'm midway in my cycle. If you actually look up my posts and threads, I keep asking about this "2012 liquid Drol" that my bro had stored for years in his closet that he gave to me. Go on PM and look up my posts; matter fact go on Forum.steroid or look me up in Meso on my threads. Weird shit going on; more like the fuck you talking about u punk bitch, GTFO.

You are absolutely fucked haha. GL to you.

 

[5millionbucks]

You are absolutely fucked haha. GL to you.

And ur a fag, good luck sucking cock son.

 

[gearwolf]

Damn son

Can I ask you what youve been running?

gained the muscle over many natty years + a basic 500mg test cycle, cruised, then for this prep I ran 500mg test p, tren a up to 500mg + 50mg of anavar. I may do it differently now but that's what the coach had ordered.

 

[Waduhek]

gained the muscle over many natty years + a basic 500mg test cycle, cruised, then for this prep I ran 500mg test p, tren a up to 500mg + 50mg of anavar. I may do it differently now but that's what the coach had ordered.

Did you feel that adding tren made a huge difference?
Im thinking about trying it but im a little scared tbh lol

 

[gearwolf]

Did you feel that adding tren made a huge difference?
Im thinking about trying it but im a little scared tbh lol

besides insulin tren is probably the most anabolic thing you can take, it makes all the difference. do I recommend it for recreational bodybuilding (not competing on stage)? generally not due to the various possible sides, not to speak of potential neurotoxic sides. all non-stage physique goals can be achieved without tren anyways.

 

[Waduhek]

besides insulin tren is probably the most anabolic thing you can take, it makes all the difference. do I recommend it for recreational bodybuilding (not competing on stage)? generally not due to the various possible sides, not to speak of potential neurotoxic sides. all non-stage physique goals can be achieved without tren anyways.

Yea that's what I've always thought about tren, no need to take it unless you compete. But I gotta say, the temptation is still strong lol

 

[gearwolf]

Yea that's what I've always thought about tren, no need to take it unless you compete. But I gotta say, the temptation is still strong lol

you can always try ace at 200-300mg and drop it quickly

 

[Waduhek]

you can always try ace at 200-300mg and drop it quickly

And what dosage of test would you recommend?

 

[Vipera1]

And what dosage of test would you recommend?

Lower test, higher tren for minimal tren sides.

Trt dose of 150mg/week of test, and 500mg+/week of tren.

 

[Waduhek]

Lower test, higher tren for minimal tren sides.

Trt dose of 150mg/week of test, and 500mg+/week of tren.

Isnt 500mg of tren a little too much for a first time? What about 150mg test and 200-250mg tren?

 

[gearwolf]

And what dosage of test would you recommend?

some do better on test > tren, some on tren > test. I'd say try both, but I disagree with 500mg+ being necessary unless BB is your entire life - tren sides seem to hit most people above 250-300mg and they make life outside the gym a complete shit show. it's really a devil's brew

 

[Waduhek]

I'll try 150 test and 200 tren then, better be conservative...

 

[Zarioh]

some do better on test > tren, some on tren > test. I'd say try both, but I disagree with 500mg+ being necessary unless BB is your entire life - tren sides seem to hit most people above 250-300mg and they make life outside the gym a complete shit show. it's really a devil's brew

What would you recommend for tren starting dose test/tren?

 

[Vipera1]

Isnt 500mg of tren a little too much for a first time? What about 150mg test and 200-250mg tren?

Start at 50mg/ED, after first month increase to 60mg/ED, after 8 weeks increase to 70mg/ED.

Go up to 10-12 weeks, preferably 12 weeks if blood test is ok and symptoms can be handled.

No need to increase test. For best results if your BF% is low enough add 4 weeks of anavar @50mg/ED.

 

[Vipera1]

Considering this is Hilma thread, I can say that their Test E, Sustanon, Tren E and Anavar is good to go and excellent quality, about the rest of their products I'm not able to comment as I haven't tested them.

@Waduhek , if your nutrition is not on point, then my above guidance will not be magical.

 

[Waduhek]

No way im gonna pin ED lol, EOD is already too much for me. Anyway I was thinking about trying low dosage for few weeks just to see what happens and how I respond. I was thinking something like 150 test 200 tren for 5-6 weeks, 50mg tren ace eod and 75mg test cyp twice a week.

 

[RoidTeam - EU Distributor]

Wowo. Wonder why we haven’t received any notifications.
And we thought that thread is silent for like 3-4 pages but there is so much going on actually and so much missed.

 

[Vipera1]

No way im gonna pin ED lol, EOD is already too much for me. Anyway I was thinking about trying low dosage for few weeks just to see what happens and how I respond. I was thinking something like 150 test 200 tren for 5-6 weeks, 50mg tren ace eod and 75mg test cyp twice a week.

You are not ready for Tren by the way you speak.

Don't waste your time, don't waste your money.

Your results are going to be suboptimal.

Stick to the test and learn how to diet and train hard.

 

[5millionbucks]

You are not ready for Tren by the way you speak.

Don't waste your time, don't waste your money.

Your results are going to be suboptimal.

Stick to the test and learn how to diet and train hard.

Waduhek based on his pic looks like he already knows how to diet and train. If he hops on tren Im pretty sure he'll look like the hulk.

 

[iceman440]

You can start tren off as little as 250 and see results. I would not go over 400 for first cycle.

If it’s test and tren only try out
250 test
300-350 tren