TNotch347
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Same here, always mixed reviews with this stuff. Different protocols to make it work, be interesting to see if he does get results.
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I'm using AI, specifically 12.5mg on pin days. I'm planning on making bloodwork again in 8 weeks and I will test these values. Libido is excellent, literally the only side effect is slight nipple sensitivity. I decided to take proactively 10mg of Nolvadex ED to avoid gyno, until I drop Dbol in a few days which will lower my E2 values by itself.
By the way, what's your opinion in blast and cruise? I'm seriously considering doing it instead of PCT.
So pinning, who pins in there deltoids and what are there experiences. I've been doing it because it's easier than stretching my big ass arm around and pinning glutes can even aspirate at that angle. Do you reap all the benefits as if you was to pin glutes or are there limitations with compounds. All information welcomed.
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So I havent posted here in a while but I did make a thread on meso already about my estradiol; shit was at 80 running a low dose of test cyp at 150-175 mg week that I got for free a while back. I was also running a ugl anavar(which had very very good reviews).
So now I would like to chime in on Hilma's aromasin; but is this shit overdosed or does my body like having high estro even on cycle(my natty estro is high in the 40s with test levels in the low 400s). From seeking peoples advice I took 12.5mg of Hilma's aromasin eod 2 fridays ago; so Friday, Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday; literally had to stop taking it because I was getting low estro side effects(I know how high estro feels I just get mad emotional); but just fatigued, feel like shit, literally no emotions, and basically pms all the time. With the Aromasin should I just do 6.25mg 12 hrs after pin which is 2x a week? Because 12.5mg eod I really felt like I wanted to murder everyone who bothered me, and my dick didnt work for a week even while taking proviron 50mg a day with test.
Hilma's aromasin is on point; after 2-3 days of taking it even upping my cals a lil bit; I dropped like 3-4lbs of water weight that I was holding. Ever since I stopped taking it I gained like a lb or 2 back(still dieting). I tried to get bloods done again, but when I saw my doc the labs were closed since we had a 4 30 pm appointment.
So now I would like to chime in on Hilma's aromasin; but is this shit overdosed or does my body like having high estro even on cycle(my natty estro is high in the 40s with test levels in the low 400s). From seeking peoples advice I took 12.5mg of Hilma's aromasin eod 2 fridays ago; so Friday, Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday; literally had to stop taking it because I was getting low estro side effects(I know how high estro feels I just get mad emotional); but just fatigued, feel like shit, literally no emotions, and basically pms all the time. With the Aromasin should I just do 6.25mg 12 hrs after pin which is 2x a week? Because 12.5mg eod I really felt like I wanted to murder everyone who bothered me, and my dick didnt work for a week even while taking proviron 50mg a day with test.
Hilma's aromasin is on point; after 2-3 days of taking it even upping my cals a lil bit; I dropped like 3-4lbs of water weight that I was holding. Ever since I stopped taking it I gained like a lb or 2 back(still dieting). I tried to get bloods done again, but when I saw my doc the labs were closed since we had a 4 30 pm appointment.
TNotch347
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Why not try e2d instead of eod?
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to be honest before I used an ai I felt good unless I ran winny pre workout. I just started supplementing DHEA/Pregnologne with my test and I feel so much better; more calm less pissy and fatigued. Could also because aromasin is basically out of my system(been 4 days since my last dose). Going to dose 12.5mg a week see how it goes; if I'm retaining water I'll try e2d or e3d at 6.25mg. I literally had insomnia running 12.5mg a day and really bad acid reflux to the point where I had to run xanax to sleep every night because I had to get up early for work.
TNotch347
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Same reaction with Adex? Or have you ever tried it?
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never tried adex heard its super strong though; but i heard all it does is rebound estro after taking it; where as aromasin actually kills it unless you keep taking aromatizing compounds hence the constant dosing of aromasin.
gearwolf
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what is your natty baseline e2, do you know? that should be your reference value, some elite athletes have been tested with a natty e2 level of ~70 iirc, which would constitute their 'normal', so 30-40 may actually be too low for these individuals
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40 is my natty estradiol levels at 409 ng/dl test. Last bloodwork my test levels post injection were 469/ng dl 6 days afte4 bloods drawn. I missed my Sunday injection purposely to see how my levels would look 5 days post injection. I was blaming the var I had fr being slightly dosed with dbol(but had no signs of back pumps, or high blood pressure, actually my blood pressire has been the lowest its been ever 95/64.
gearwolf
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oh I see, I always start my guys out on 6.25mg of asin unless they're stacking dbol on test, in that case my exp is 12.5mg being necessary >90% of the time
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yea so Im using Turkish Pharmacy domestic UGL var now; since i ran out of the other one(made me feel good unless I was on asin). But its giving me the same type of adrenal fatigue as winny(not really joint wise) so thats why I've been taking pregnologne and dhea which literally made a night and day difference and helping me with cortisol control. The thing is should I up the asin dose because of taking preg/dhea(heard it converts to estrogen/progesterone also) or just leave it be at 6.25mg 2x a week that I plan on doing? To be honest last cycle I used was test e 250mg; mast e 300mg and threw in some winny first 2 weeks; last 5-6 weeks I ran 50mg drol(iran pharma grade) and had not problems(didnt take 1 dose of asin in the cycle) except I couldn't eat much the last week I was taking anadrol which happens to most people.
gearwolf
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adrenal fatigue is an interesting topic insofar there's no scientific proof of it yet I know the feeling as well - var shouldn't affect your cortisol though unless I'm ignorant but mostly your HDL.
my advice would be to throw everything else out, add 400-600mg primobolan (which does lower e2 on bloodwork considerably for me at least) and stick with 6.25mg asin 2 x week. I've to admit I can't get a clear idea of the point of the cycles insofar you described them, those are not combos I usually see/recommend for any purpose
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you dont recommend taking var and test together? I'm almost done with my cycle anyway so I dont think adding primo would be sufficient since I would have to buy it and then wait a week or so. And yea Im sticking with 6.25mg asin 2x a week.
gearwolf
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var is my preferred oral for cutting at 50-75mg/day but I've been on Hilma's Primo at 400-600mg/week for about half a year now and that's the best & most pleasant/side effect free compound I've ever run for getting/maintaining low bodyfat - alongside ~3iu hgh a day I'm leaner than I ever was on var + tren while eating more and doing no cardio at all, it's honestly magic. no need for AI or any lipid/liver protection, which does factor into cycle cost ultimately - especially TUDCA can be expensive.
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yea next cycle I'm going to do that fuck running orals to be honest only first 4 weeks to kick start; the first var I was taking was awesome but it made me retain water(not like dbol bloat more glycogen creatine uptake) but overall enhanced mood so no need for dhea or preg. But I ran out of that so I'm using this other var I got from Turkish Pharmacy(his domestic line which is UGL) and even with test and no AI it makes me super fucking pissed, hungry as fuck and even quite lethargic at the gym; does dry me out nice though and good strength gains; thats why I'm taking a supplement called raw test with preg, boron and dhea; and to be honest feeling so much better; I think this ugl var is fucking with my adrenals because the last brand I had I felt awesome(or may had low dose anadrol in it).
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