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InjectedSquirrel
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Any reason why these tests are showing microbiological contamination? Clearly another bath tub setup.
Hilma Biocare Nandrolone Decanoate Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab
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gearwolf
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We've been over this months ago in the testing section and this thread. Please drown yourself in said bathtub.
Curious what was the out come? The guy asked a legitimate question. I don’t recall there being an answer or an explanation other than no one reported that they died or had gotten an infection so it must be g2g.
gearwolf
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That (call it anecdotal evidence I suppose, but if none of the hundreds of users of said product reported any issues that would stem from contaminated gear, it's fairly likely it wasn't) + some educated guesses that the contamination resulted from processes within the lab somehow.Curious what was the out come? The guy asked a legitimate question. I don’t recall there being an answer or an explanation other than no one reported that they died or had gotten an infection so it must be g2g.
Necessary Evil
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I'm currently using the same batch # of Deca. To be more specific pinned yesterday. It's the smoothest oil I have ever used. 0 pip, 0 swelling.
Den84
Well-known Member
I can add that I use aas from 2004, and hilma is definitely the smoothest oil I've tried since 15 years of steroid use. the finesse of the oil and the absence of pip, was the thing that struck me most, the first time I used hilma, and finally with hilma I can also inject 3 ml in only one shot, without any problems or pip . This has never happened with dozens of brands used previously , or even with the pharma grade.
I hope that all brands will be contaminated as hilma, considering that contamination means the top smoothest oil. LOL
gearwolf
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It's my first time using sesame oil as a carrier, have you used other brands using that before? I wonder if it's the sesame oil that's responsible for the gear being so smooth or some other factor - it beats even grapeseed oil & pharma test I've worked with before in regards to PIP.
Davidinovg
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I'm pinning test enanthate + tren enanthate 2 ml all together and the PIP is always there..no idea if is for the test or the tren whatever..is bearable no problems..
In regards of gains was expecting much more..I'm now 8 weeks into it pinning 250 mg test enanthate + 200 mg tren enanthate E3D; will do bloods and report.
I mean I had crazy stupid gains my last cycle with only test enanthate at 600 mg from SIS Labs!
In regards of gains was expecting much more..I'm now 8 weeks into it pinning 250 mg test enanthate + 200 mg tren enanthate E3D; will do bloods and report.
I mean I had crazy stupid gains my last cycle with only test enanthate at 600 mg from SIS Labs!
gearwolf
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Can you specify gains? Tren is good at adding strength but not traditionally used (though it can certainly be) for gaining muscle mass. It can fuck up your digestion (and thus calorie surplus), recovery via trensomnia and various other biomarkers. Not suitable for beginners or even intermediates I'd argue, tren is rather complicated to optimize nutrition/supplementation for.
Davidinovg
Well-known Member
Gains as far as size and strength; strength is there I mean can't complain, but my previous cycle with tren acetate i felt much stronger and I got a more lean, quality look.
AlwaysHungry
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Dosen't know where this idea comes from but Tren Ace always put lbm on me even on a calorie deficit.
To use it as a full bulker it need some more indrigients however
To use it as a full bulker it need some more indrigients however
gearwolf
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it comes from tren wrecking your gut microbiome/digestion, making it hard for many people to eat enough, to it fucking up sleep and thus the recovery necessary to progress as well and some other stuff - it's made for and excellent at preserving muscle no matter how much you fuck up training, sleep and diet really.
even on tren you're not going to put on lbm unless you're a beginner, at a really small deficit, on insane dosages or defying the laws of thermodynamics though
AlwaysHungry
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100% inaccurate.
Most of theese side effects comes from dosages that your body can't handle.
300mg tren ace for the most is side free an you reap the benefits.
It always adds lbm when your cutting and your scale dosent move but you are leaner by the day then my friend you add lbm to your frame.
Advanced atheletes utilize tren almost in every situation.
To utilize trenbolone to the max you must first be an advanced athlete to utilize and reap the benefits of higher dosages.
Advanced means you know how to properly work your GH your Slin your tren and test.
It means you know the timing when t raise dosages when to reduce when to kick out compounds.
Do 2 cycles to see the difference
1: 750mg test 1200 eq
2: 750mg test 1200eq 300 tren
See the difference for yourself
Most of theese side effects comes from dosages that your body can't handle.
300mg tren ace for the most is side free an you reap the benefits.
It always adds lbm when your cutting and your scale dosent move but you are leaner by the day then my friend you add lbm to your frame.
Advanced atheletes utilize tren almost in every situation.
To utilize trenbolone to the max you must first be an advanced athlete to utilize and reap the benefits of higher dosages.
Advanced means you know how to properly work your GH your Slin your tren and test.
It means you know the timing when t raise dosages when to reduce when to kick out compounds.
Do 2 cycles to see the difference
1: 750mg test 1200 eq
2: 750mg test 1200eq 300 tren
See the difference for yourself
Den84
Well-known Member
Sesame oil probably is the carrier that I tolerate best. Regarding pharmagrade oils I used test p, test E Bayer , sustanon organon , which then became sustanon msd and then sustanon aspen and also the testex (test cyp from Spain pharmacy)
Test P from my local pharmacy is in sesame oil and never had pip with this , but it is 2 ml amps (50mg/ml) too inconvenient, I stopped using it from 4/5 years.
Sustanon organon gave me strong pip but I can’t remember what carrier was because the last time that I used it was in 2008, but probably was in peanuts oil like sustanon aspen sold now in all Eu countries.
Test E Bayer (testoviron) for me was the worst of the worst, every injection the pip was incredible and persisted one week, sometimes I had also fever. It is in a castor oil ...
Regarding the ugl only primus Ray and balkan/sp didn't give me any particular problems except for the p test and the E that give me a bit of pip, instead test p and test E hilma zero pip. Balkan/sp is in peach oil and primus was in EO. Also sqs was in EO and some products was very smooth but some others was impossible to use like npp and primo.. can’t know why.
All other ugl tried during the years (can’t remember all because are too much lol) cause me pip problems... alpha pharma, Baltic pharma, novocrine, lika, ge-tm lab...
however I think that I can tolerate also EO very well, considering that primus was 100% EO and hilma put a bit of EO inside some products, and certainly even peach oil that is using balkan is a great carrier for my body.
Toni72
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Hello people, I have tested several laboratories that use sesame oil, but hilma is the best, the smoothest, my question is: is there more than one different sesame oil? Thank you
I agree with alwayshungry, i'm nowhere near an "advanced" athlete but i'm currently using tren (300mg) on a surplus caloric diet and the scale is going up, not in a crazy way but it is, and i'm staying pretty lean. Sure deca might be better to pack up larger amounts of weight but afaik the gains are also filled with water
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