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No meso is not a paid source board. The sources that are here don't have to pay to play. The reason why i like this board is that members with much more knowledge than me, are able to hold sources feet to the fire and keep them accountable with their brewing process, etc... It isn't we want sources to fail, we just hold them accountable where other places don't.

I want to be crystal clear, i am not defending this source what so ever. You may have in all accounts gotten bunk gear, i don't know. The reason myself and others were so adamant about you getting blood work was simply to verify the statements made. It just comes down to having proof is all, and allows us to take any statements made then with some validity. If you were using 700 mg of T a week, i would get the $48 dollar test, as it will be more accurate based on your amounts used. The 28$ test is capped off at 1500 ng/dl. NOW, if it is bunk, that would obviously explain the lack of progression. And your damn right, i would be pissed to in that case. And i would be screaming for a refund.

Personally i am gonna go for bloods to out of curiosity since i am running their Test p. I am getting sides from elevated T levels, but i would like to see some numbers.

Did you get bloods from hilma test p?
 
Has anyone tried the Cut Stack from their website yet? Seen a few comments to avoid stuff like that and just get everything separate

I don’t like the stack test mast tren, I prefer to do mast without tren. But if you have a preparation and it includes this kind of stack for the cutting phase, cut stack can be a good choice. If I remember well someone tested it and shared lab report some page ago and come back correctly dosed.
 
Okay i got my bloods back.

The first is 150mg Test E Balkan Pharmacy - Injection every 3.5 days (75mg per injection)

The second is 350mg Test E Hilma Biocare - Injection 100mg EOD.
 

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Okay i got my bloods back.

The first is 150mg Test E Balkan Pharmacy - Injection every 3.5 days (75mg per injection)

The second is 350mg Test E Hilma Biocare - Injection 100mg EOD.
what method was used on the second one? I've seen some really shitty/cheap tests that looked like this (I've not even looked at the numbers themselves).
 
The same test I used on 500mg a week and got basically the same levels, can be seen a couple pages back

Also hilma? So my numbers actually good compared to yours? I did eod injections.

Edit, i found your test and results. I dont really know if my numbers is good or bad for 350mg test ew, but yours for 500mg test ew is not good.
 
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After some research i found that my numbers on 350mg test e ew (52nmol/L or 1500ng/dl) is low numbers for this dosage? Correct me if im wrong?
 
I usually get a 5-6x multiplier - 250mg test e from Hilma put me at >1500ng/dl (didn't order an unlimited test since I wasn't shooting for that much
 
After some research i found that my numbers on 350mg test e ew (52nmol/L or 1500ng/dl) is low numbers for this dosage? Correct me if im wrong?

37 on 150 mg/wk.
52 on 350 mg/wk.

It does seem low in comparison, but there's many things that could influence that. One shouldn't expect results to be linear from one dosage to the next either.

i would like to see testing of these oils from members. Blood work is great and all, but it doesn't tell the complete story.

The question is, did the cycle go well for you?
 
37 on 150 mg/wk.
52 on 350 mg/wk.

It does seem low in comparison, but there's many things that could influence that. One shouldn't expect results to be linear from one dosage to the next either.

i would like to see testing of these oils from members. Blood work is great and all, but it doesn't tell the complete story.

The question is, did the cycle go well for you?

I also think it was low, compared to the balkan pharmacy numbers, I feel like i would get 52 on like 200-250mg/ew balkan.

Well my training and diet is on point, so i did get something from the cycle, but i must also admit i expected more.
I started to got a little suspicious halfway into the cycle, and then i also followed this thread og found others had low blood levels on hilma test e.
Then i had even more doubt about the product, seeing its always the same dude who protects the hilma brand, in this thread. Almost like he got an argument for every doubt being put on the brand, even with bloodworks ect..

So i got the bloodwork and i must say, im a little dissapointed.
I would love some labtest on the product. And yes i know its already been done. But its from the guy who protects hilma brand, and from a semi doubful lab.
 
37 on 150 mg/wk.
52 on 350 mg/wk.

It does seem low in comparison, but there's many things that could influence that. One shouldn't expect results to be linear from one dosage to the next either.

i would like to see testing of these oils from members. Blood work is great and all, but it doesn't tell the complete story.

The question is, did the cycle go well for you?
If 52nmol/l is actually 1500ng/dl then the test is probably capped, especially if you both got the same amount
 
Well we didnt get the same amount, just 2 amounts very close to eachother.
And the test does go much higher, i believe on to ar least 80nmol/l

There ya go then

I must say at 350 per week that does seem a little low, if you waited several weeks to get full saturation. Which I believe you did say. I know you can't compare from one person to another but just for reference I was on 400 per week of test c same brand and I had 3200 I believe(posted it quite some time ago). However I was doing once a week injections and I pulled bloods I think a day and a half after my last one, so that certainly could have influenced a bit higher of a number
 
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There is so many variables for bloodwork. But I agree those numbers aren't good I'm a little upset about it being I know someone who purchased a decent amount of test from this source. I'm one pin in on the test cyp I'm using .6ml 2x a week. I will see what up in 4 weeks I'll pull bloods.
 
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