Roidtest Official Rep

[mercury]

If the rep is unwilling to answer about the differences of this product versus Labmax, then maybe he can find a customer that has experience with both, on whatever other forums he posts on, to come and share their experience.

As for the ad, I agree it is misleading and is only true if the fake product contains no hormone at all or a different hormone completely.

I do not think that he can. I have seen some postings about this person this guy is neither chemist nor anybody with medical degree as he claims to be. And I do not think that you can even compare this test to labmax because it lacks its capability.

Labmax is a big lab, they do a lot of things. This guy has somebody packing testing reagents for him which are not for steroid testing as far as I see.

if this is the guy then it explains all

http://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/FL30814/William-Llewellyn-Foster.html

 

[Docd187123]

I do not think that he can. I have seen some postings about this person this guy is neither chemist nor anybody with medical degree as he claims to be. And I do not think that you can even compare this test to labmax because it lacks its capability.

Labmax is a big lab, they do a lot of things. This guy has somebody packing testing reagents for him which are not for steroid testing as far as I see.

if this is the guy then it explains all

http://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/FL30814/William-Llewellyn-Foster.html

You are such a fucking idiot. That's not the same Llewellyn. If you had bothered to even remotely look into it you'd have known that within 2minutes. Goddam your stupidity is almost unrivaled and that's putting it mildly.

 

[pumpingiron22]

The pictures are not even close to the same guy

 

[mercury]

Which is not often the case. Most of the fake Watsons I have seen contain test, and labmax has "shown" it to be test. enan. frequently. Norma Deca as well as Organon Sust. fall into those categories as well.

I have seen some guys with Watson but everybody was satisfied. I have just looked at his test, there is no UV light, no fluorescence for test cyp (Watson was test cyp if I remember correctly). I do not believe that his test can detect hormones. looks to me like some snake oil.

First I though that he copied or reselling labmax but looks like this might be some useless test reagent if it is any test reagent in the first place.

 

[mercury]

The pictures are not even close to the same guy

There is a lot coming out with this name when you google, there might be a few different people but I remember people talking on various forums that he was busted for selling fake HGH, some 10 years ago

 

[mkulltra58]

I have seen some guys with Watson but everybody was satisfied. I have just looked at his test, there is no UV light, no fluorescence for test cyp (Watson was test cyp if I remember correctly). I do not believe that his test can detect hormones. looks to me like some snake oil.

First I though that he copied or reselling labmax but looks like this might be some useless test reagent if it is any test reagent in the first place.

Doesn't make sense to me. Why would a respected steroid researcher create and promote an inferior product than what he already knows is available on the market? There was obviously some decent money invested in the creation of this product. I wish he would come to this thread himself to answer some of these questions. Btw, this is someone that Millard seems to respect which says enough for me to also have respect for him instead of trying to spread rumors or misinformation. (Unless someone has an alterior motive.)

@Millard Baker Is it possible to reach out to Llewellyn to have him answer questions about the product in this thread? You can let him know that it would be a create opportunity to educate and promote the product.

 

[mercury]

Doesn't make sense to me. Why would a respected steroid researcher create and promote an inferior product than what he already knows is available on the market?

Listen just make you own judgment there is a lot of talk about this guy. Somebody pointed here (it was not me) that he is using misinformation to promote the product.

There is a lot of talk about this guy that he was busted for selling fake HGH. Just do google search all is there. He is not chemist not a doctor so how can you call him respected steroid researcher etc.

Everybody can be researcher there is a lot of info on the internet you just need to search for it. Start today making fake profiles on facebook and other social media and in 5 years you will be respected scientist.

 

[w_llewellyn]

I am happy to help answer questions, though bear with me as I am out of the office this week. I also hope you can understand it is highly unprofessional for me to discuss a competitor’s product, or private working of my business. I won’t do that. What I can give you, however, is a little background.

ROIDTEST is something I have wanted to do for about 10 years now. As most can understand, however, this is a large class of similar drugs, and thus a very difficult task. It was only very recently that anabolic steroid regents were actualized. This is an emerging technology as well; much will change and has changed already.

I am certain that ROIDTEST represents the very latest advances in this field… the most accurate reagents and cataloged reactions. Further, it is my focus that our company always remains on the very forefront of this technology. To that effect, I have designed our system in a way that allows it to remain flexible and reactive to any new advances in field. And you will certainly see this in practice in the coming months.

ROIDTEST is a business for me, of course, but also a personal passion. Those that know me know that I am a strong advocate for honest AAS education, and have long supported AAS harm reduction efforts. This technology fits with what I have always strived to do. And I believe it has the potential to make a safety difference both on an individual level, and perhaps with its existence and wider adoption, even market wide. That is my hope anyway.

If there is anything I can help with let me know.

 

[w_llewellyn]

There is a lot coming out with this name when you google, there might be a few different people but I remember people talking on various forums that he was busted for selling fake HGH, some 10 years ago

I was not. You appear to be very ill informed about my background.

 

[OdieM]

I was not. You appear to be very ill informed about my background.

Don't mind him He's a rep for your competitor.

So your not claiming that your test will show purity correct? Also like mentioned above surely your test can't tell the difference in a fake if the fake has the same hormone correct?

 

[Bradly]

holy shit @mercury

:facepalm:

how do you not know this guy?

 

[w_llewellyn]

So your not claiming that your test will show purity correct? Also like mentioned above surely your test can't tell the difference in a fake if the fake has the same hormone correct?

No, definitely not. The test is qualitative only. It looks for the presence, but cannot determine the concentration, of certain AAS. You’d need lab analysis to get a quantitative result; and of course quite detailed analysis to differentiate between an original and counterfeit if they both contained similar quantities of the same drug.

ROIDTEST is useful for spotting fakes with no steroid or a steroid other than the one listed. By recent estimates this could make up as much as 1/3 of what is found on the black market. So while it can't spot every issue, I believe it is very useful.

 

[mercury]

I am certain that ROIDTEST represents the very latest advances in this field… the most accurate reagents and cataloged reactions.

this is not correct the idea of colorimetric testing of steroids goes as far as 1950.

here is a reference

http://pac.iupac.org/publications/pac/pdf/1979/pdf/5110x2157.pdf

so do not tell that is latest because it goes against your reputation

unless you can prove that you hold scientific degree in chemistry and tell what exactly is your "new" test reagent I can believe the story.

I do not believe that you invented anything there is a lot of info on the internet about colorimetric tests. I remember also them well from science classes in high school. I worked on jobs where we used those type of tests for detecting many things like soil contamination etc. So I am very familiar with it and I like those test, I have full cabinet of various tests.

 

[mercury]

I was not. You appear to be very ill informed about my background.

and now more thing, because I have never talked to you before, I do not know you. I do not represent any competition. Because I share my experience some think that I represent somebody.

I simply do not respond to any accusations because explaining anything to some retards is hopeless.

 

[w_llewellyn]

this is not correct the idea of colorimetric testing of steroids goes as far as 1950.

here is a reference

http://pac.iupac.org/publications/pac/pdf/1979/pdf/5110x2157.pdf

so do not tell that is latest because it goes against your reputation

I believe you are confused Mercury. Nowhere in what I stated above have I claimed to be the father of colorimetric testing. I merely wrote that our product represents that latest of this technology as it pertains to AAS, which I stand behind.

I am not sure why you appear to be hostile about us launching ROIDTEST. This is a burgeoning industry, and also a highly technical one. If you want the best product possible as a consumer than you should be happy to see more than one company operating in the marketplace. Competition supports innovation, and tends to be a very positive thing for consumers in the long run.

 

[OdieM]

I know I am all for someone bringing a product to help with harm reduction. Yes I hate that roidtest is twice the price of labmax but honestly I would rather my money stay in America and the fact that it's discreetly shipped is awesome cause labmax damn sure isn't. I'll be giving Roidtest a try real soon.

 

[mkulltra58]

I believe you are confused Mercury. Nowhere in what I stated above have I claimed to be the father of colorimetric testing. I merely wrote that our product represents that latest of this technology as it pertains to AAS, which I stand behind.

I am not sure why you appear to be hostile about us launching ROIDTEST. This is a burgeoning industry, and also a highly technical one. If you want the best product possible as a consumer than you should be happy to see more than one company operating in the marketplace. Competition supports innovation, and tends to be a very positive thing for consumers in the long run.

Price will definitely always be a consideration with this type of product. I fear that it won't reach it's potential without a reduction of cost. With increased production and popularity, will we see the price of RoidTest come down?

 

[mercury]

I believe you are confused Mercury. Nowhere in what I stated above have I claimed to be the father of colorimetric testing. I merely wrote that our product represents that latest of this technology as it pertains to AAS, which I stand behind.

what do you mean by the "latest technology", there is no way to improve it beyond what was published already over 50 years ago.

sounds like sales pitch,

talk to a real chemist with real scientific degree about the "latest technology" and let me know what he says

let's wait for some people to buy this and run some tests, this is the only way to see what you have. Since you are avoiding to provide any details about the test.

if it really has the "latest technology" you will get my thumbs up if not I let you guess what will happen.

 

[Docd187123]

what do you mean by the "latest technology", there is no way to improve it beyond what was published already over 50 years ago.

sounds like sales pitch,

talk to a real chemist with real scientific degree about the "latest technology" and let me know what he says

let's wait for some people to buy this and run some tests, this is the only way to see what you have. Since you are avoiding to provide any details about the test.

if it really has the "latest technology" you will get my thumbs up if not I let you guess what will happen.

Shut the fuck up and stop shilling for labmax. Nobody cares about what you have to say bc you are a labmax employee.

 

[OdieM]

Is it me or does this seem like it would be extremely hard to see what the actually hormone is? I was just about to place an order to test Tcyp, MastP and EQ but after looking at the color chart it would be hard to tell the difference in Tcyp and Mast. Seems 75% of the chart is made up of very similar browns.