Sciroxx Labs Testodex Enanthate 250 - GC-MS/MS - 2016-01 - performed by ChemTox via AnabolicLab.com

Do you know of any proof that customers were made aware that this product was supposedly a blend prior to lab testing? Even so, his explanation makes zero sense considering no TPP was found in the product. This all sounds like excuses for underdosed gear.
He indicates in his comment that he made AL aware before the test. No idea if this is true. I knew he had blended phenyl before due to talking with him. But I don't think it was ever publicly told to customers and wasn't listed on label. It's something I learned recently. I would not endorse that business judgment personally. Again, I'm not affiliated with him or a rep. Just a slightly more inquisitive consumer.
 
You know, I wouldn't give a damn if testpp was added and it made it 250mg on the dot. That's not what I ordered. If I paid for teste, I want fucking test e. Not testc, not testpp, not sust... test e and nothing else.

It a like going to a store and asking for a coke and they give you a pepsi sitting right next to it. Is it pretty much the same thing? Yes. But bitch, I want a coke and a smile.

The very fact that it was underdosed but they just happened to account for those missing mg's with tpp sounds like an ass load of fuckery.
 
I agree it should have been labeled as a blend if it was. That's bad call in and of itself. But the blood serum peak and Pharmacokinetics (real world effects in body) are basically identical to it being all test enanthate anyway. I assume he chose to do this slight blend because it had no real world impact on the steroids effectiveness. (If we assume the blend allegation is true).

If anyone is interested, Karl did respond at AL's site in the comments under this test at issue. He's implied to me he won't log in and post on meso.

Sciroxx Laboratories Testodex Enanthate 250 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab
I have read his response and it's the most ridiculous explanation imaginable. He is trying to say that this specific batch is blended. What a coincidence wouldn't you say. At this point I don't see any reason for people to entertain anything you or Karl have to say. That excuse he gave is nauseating and your obvious bias has become tiresome.
 
He indicates in his comment that he made AL aware before the test. No idea if this is true. I knew he had blended phenyl before due to talking with him. But I don't think it was ever publicly told to customers and wasn't listed on label. It's something I learned recently. I would not endorse that business judgment personally. Again, I'm not affiliated with him or a rep. Just a slightly more inquisitive consumer.
Maybe their label should read "Varying esters and quantities of some sort but labeled Test E".
 
A regular customer does not/would not have access to emails of karls. You keep parroting this bullshit which is insulting to anyone with a shred of intelligence.
I asked him wtf was up, and he told me his side and forwarded me the emails. That's literally exactly how it went down. I came here and posted some shit and got flamed. If you refuse to believe that, it's fine.

Do a post history search of me here or at ProM. Not a rep, not a shill, never have been. I used to almost get banned at PM all the time for criticizing sources. Most of my posts are related to gh testing methods, PED science and studies, health supplements and fighting horrid cholesterol and other ill effects of AAS. I'm not a regular here so I get that. Nobody at PM thinks I'm a shill for anyone though.
 
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I agree it should have been labeled as a blend if it was. That's bad call in and of itself. But the blood serum peak and Pharmacokinetics (real world effects in body) are basically identical to it being all test enanthate anyway. I assume he chose to do this slight blend because it had no real world impact on the steroids effectiveness. (If we assume the blend allegation is true).

If anyone is interested, Karl did respond at AL's site in the comments under this test at issue. He's implied to me he won't log in and post on meso.

Sciroxx Laboratories Testodex Enanthate 250 Lab Test Results - Anabolic Lab

If the pharmacokinetics and real world application are so interchangeable between the two esters then what reason does Karl have for deceiving his customers by withholding thag information and not making it public????

Why do you keep on speaking for Karl? Does he not have a mouth or few fingers to voice his own story here? If he so chooses not to voice it here that is his choice but we don't need a paid mouthpiece trying to mislead ppl.
 
No because that specific analysis only checked for a Test Enanthate signature so to speak. That test performed would not see the additional testosterone content from the tpp and would result in an underdose as it would only see test enanthate content. The 207mg number comes from this analysis which looked only for test enanthate. The other Chemtox analysis, referred to heavily here in this thread, is what was supposed to cross check for any of those other listed compounds like tpp. If it was done as represented, it should indicate the presence of tpp if there was in fact any tpp present - this is essentially Karl's contention and allegation. It was a 200mg/70mg tne/tpp blend but the content number only accounted for the test enanthate, thus it would show as underdosed.

It was a mass spec test. They can't exactly ask just the test e to elute. Regardless of whether it was compared to a standard for identification, TPP would still elute and produce a peak on the plot.
 
If the pharmacokinetics and real world application are so interchangeable between the two esters then what reason does Karl have for deceiving his customers by withholding thag information and not making it public????

You know, I wouldn't give a damn if testpp was added and it made it 250mg on the dot. That's not what I ordered. If I paid for teste, I want fucking test e. Not testc, not testpp, not sust... test e and nothing else.

BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PHENYLPROP!!! HE'S A LYING PIECE OF SHIT AND HONESTLY, I BELIEVE WE ARE DEALING WITH KARL HIMSELF!

If this isn't Karl, go tell him to come here and speak for himself since the two of you are buddies...
 
It was a mass spec test. They can't exactly ask just the test e to elute. Regardless of whether it was compared to a standard for identification, TPP would still elute and produce a peak on the plot.
Correct, the reference standard compared in the MS was test E. But you're saying even if this was all that was looked at by the procedure, the tpp would still show it's own distinct peak? This is getting beyond my basic understanding of MS testing. No guru there!
 
BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PHENYLPROP!!! HE'S A LYING PIECE OF SHIT AND HONESTLY, I BELIEVE WE ARE DEALING WITH KARL HIMSELF!

If this isn't Karl, go tell him to come here and speak for himself since the two of you are buddies...
That's a new one, lol. Not Karl. And at this stage of the story, I'm not arguing it was a phenyl blend either. I thought I made it fairly clear. Just sort of waiting for more info or evidence like anyone else. That is, if there even is any. He says he's talking with the lab. We'll see. Not everything is a grand conspiracy, fellas. I've hyped pharmacom in my posts at pm yet I'm a paid shill for sciroxx? Maybe I'm a paid shill for both? Lol.
 
What exactly arguing then? All your doing is distracting from the results. Are you Karl's lawyer or spokesperson? If not then who are you to speak for him?

You claim to be such a big supporter of Anabolic Lab and say look at your post history as proof? Actions speak louder than words and your actions prove you are not a supporter. When push came to shove you bailed with your support. You're like the snitch who hops sides when he gets caught. Same thing with Pharmacom and Sciroxx. You say you hype pharmacom but you are absent from the thread on pharmacom's bad test results and again, when push comes to shove you're not creating misdirection in a pharmacom thread...you're doing it in a Sciroxx thread.

Not a single word out of your mouth should be believed by anybody here. You are a snake in the grass and the reason we keep the grass cut so short
 
What exactly arguing then? All your doing is distracting from the results. Are you Karl's lawyer or spokesperson? If not then who are you to speak for him?

You claim to be such a big supporter of Anabolic Lab and say look at your post history as proof? Actions speak louder than words and your actions prove you are not a supporter. When push came to shove you bailed with your support. You're like the snitch who hops sides when he gets caught. Same thing with Pharmacom and Sciroxx. You say you hype pharmacom but you are absent from the thread on pharmacom's bad test results and again, when push comes to shove you're not creating misdirection in a pharmacom thread...you're doing it in a Sciroxx thread.

Not a single word out of your mouth should be believed by anybody here. You are a snake in the grass and the reason we keep the grass cut so short
You guys Crack me up over here... I can't really defend myself anymore. I've said everything I can say. You want to believe that because I initially entertained Karl's position, and asked questions about it, that I'm a paid shill or covert op here to influence public opinion.

Didnt even catch that pharmacom had some bad results. Checking it out.
 
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You guys Crack me up over here... I can't really defend myself anymore. I've said everything I can say.

Didnt even catch that pharmacom had some bad results. Checking it out.

"You can't defend the indefensible - anything you say sounds self-serving and hypocritical." - Diane Abbott
 
Lol, shit. Obviously I saw this, was right on AL. I just don't consider overdosed a negative, no wonder. I mean it's a qc issue but meh. Not too negative for sales. Obviously a paid pharmacom shill too. I'll take overdosed shit all day long since most UGL sourced raws are crap purity and finished products are often underdosed.

Not a Pahrmacom shill, no, just an idiot if you don't consider that to be a negative result. Imagine being diabetic and your insulin was overdosed by 21% as that sample was or imagine going for surgery and your anesthesia was overdosed by 21%. Or imagine your DNP was overdosed by 21%. The list goes on just like your sorry attempts at muddying the waters here.
 
Not a Pahrmacom shill, no, just an idiot if you don't consider that to be a negative result. Imagine being diabetic and your insulin was overdosed by 21% as that sample was or imagine going for surgery and your anesthesia was overdosed by 21%. Or imagine your DNP was overdosed by 21%. The list goes on just like your sorry attempts at muddying the waters here.
Comparing overdosed DNP and slin to overdosed UGL test? Very much apples to oranges. Those can be lethal. Of course I care. It shows a qc issue, I'd like gmp level production. But at the end of the day, I'm not too upset about overdosed test. I don't have the energy for this anymore Docd. You wear me out. I'm fading back into the shadows unless something new gets posted here.
 
Comparing overdosed DNP and slin to overdosed UGL test? Very much apples to oranges. Those can be lethal. Of course I care. It shows a qc issue, I'd like gmp level production. But at the end of the day, I'm not too upset about overdosed test. I don't have the energy for this anymore Docd. You wear me out. I'm fading back into the shadows unless something new gets posted here.

Take the lethality out of the picture and you're still left with possible significant health complications. Point remains.

You're a lawyer and you're telling me I wear you out?

New or not, and shadows or not, you'll be back in here as soon as you can to continue misdirecting.
 
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